Imagine turning in your son, or convincing him to turn himself in, and then the president immediately says they will seek the death penalty.
John 3:16 (don’t worry the dad has two more sons, they’re mormons).
what no tea and coffee does to a person.
trump said that they’d seek the death penalty for the shooter a few hours after kirk was initially pronounced dead. this was out in the open for at least a day. the dad knew.
he turned himself in? pathetic doesn’t even begin to describe it. how could anyone feel remorse after merking somebody who deserves it as much as charlie kirk?
Doubt it was about remorse. UK news are saying his dad convinced him to do it so they wouldn’t shoot him.
That’s because this guy went to the police to clear his name, not to turn himself in. The idea that he turned himself in after all of that makes 0 sense.
Clear his name???
Look, it’s pretty crazy, but the dudes name was Charlesmurder Kirk-Killer
He also went to explain his DIE KIRK DIE tatoo, it’s actually in German!
Chuckbane Kilkirky finally exonerated
True crime TV show from probably a decade ago called “The first 48” (it follows detectives for the first 48 hours after a murder because after that the likelyhood of arrest drops by a lot)
They’re stumped. No leads that haven’t hit a dead-end. The little timer on the screen getting close to 0. In walks this random guy they’ve never heard of. “Hey I heard that <victim> got killed I just wanted to come clear my name”
arrested
he did fucking WHAT
Imagine caring about a loser like Charlie Kirk more than your son.
The reality of condemning ‘political violence’ in this world simply means you’re submitting others to political violence. Can’t wait for the snitch to be annoyed they didn’t receive their money.
Vaguely related, I did a “All Lives Matter” Uno reverse to an All Lives Matter acquaintance over Kirk’s death. He was all about “All Lives Matter”, now he’s saying political violence is bad. I replied “Actually, all violence is bad”
The snitch was their dad and friend who was contacted by the dad. They likely didn’t do it for the money but because they’re obedient slave mentality Mormons and chuds. So they won’t be annoyed. The dad if he’s at all human will be sad his son is gonna get executed by the state and angry that he killed a good chud like him in Kirk and is gonna blame the internet and college liberals for “radicalizing my good Mormon chud boy into an antifa”. Considering the friend only acted after the dad contacted them I doubt they did it for the money either but for similar goober law-abiding reasons.
political violence only matters when it’s your side being attacked. there is no compromise to be had with people that want your rights gone.
Every minute that they keep the name secret (apparently arrested last night per some reports) is a minute the FBI is sweeping all his right wing ties right under the rug
If it’s not a groyper or an ambiguously right wing guy with indescribable politics (average American basically) then I don’t believe
i’m gonna play the devil’s advocate here and say that they’re genuinely trying to confirm if the guy is actually the shooter. they already fucked up twice so it makes sense that they’d wait before making the name public. although i don’t doubt that if he’s got non-left ties then they’d be conveniently forgotten like with the trump shooter.
The funny thing is the second “attempted” shooter (who didn’t even shoot as far as I remember) was a lib! He’s super pro-Ukrainian and pissed that Trump rhetorically wasn’t supporting them. Something like that. I don’t remember all the shit.
But yeah. I just don’t trust any of these guys. It being a far right wing state overall plus the current FBI leadership plus Trump and all the frothing hogs demanding blood. They have every incentive to make shit up and zero to tell inconvenient truths after they spent like two days jacking off to all the mass executions of libs they want to do next week
Man that dude really should’ve just shut the fuck up. The only evidence he was trying to shoot the president is that he said he was trying to do so.
Brother was walking around south Florida with a gun, that’s not a crime! Until you fired a shot you had plausible deniability. Lie, and shut the fuck up. Repeat after me: “I’m expressing my second amendment right to open carry”
lol weird that they didn’t make that fact public. a naive part of me hopes that trump will tell the actual truth about the shooter but that sack of cheeto shit is a compulsive liar. frankly i don’t give a fuck about kirk or even the shooter but the fallout that this incident will have on the political climate. goodspeed, my american friends.
I’m thinking it’s more like they’re just figuring out how to make someone who obviously isn’t the shooter into the shooter.
IMO it’s fairly likely they had figured out his identity by yesterday. Not guaranteed, but likely. They didn’t release it because they also knew it would be disastrous if it was a groyper and he got away with it, so they decided to withhold the information from public release and find someone who looked close enough.
If they didn’t have his identity by yesterday, then they would’ve come to the same conclusion. They couldn’t let it go unpunished so it was time to find some random person who looks close enough (bonus points if it isn’t a right winger).
I’m saying this because Trump is apparently saying this person either turned themselves in or got turned in by someone close to them (father?), which makes 0 sense.
I’m saying this because Trump is apparently saying this person either turned themselves in or got turned in by someone close to them (father?), which makes 0 sense.
luigi got snitched on by a maccas worker, nothing is too out there in this day and age
I’m still not convinced Luigi killed that dude to be quite honest, I kinda still think he’s a patsy.
He looks completely different from the guy in the security footage, who also looks completely different from the guy in the Uber.
Most solid part of the case against Luigi is the goodreads review of the Unabomber manifesto. I find it much easier to believe the second gun and manifesto are planted than to believe he would plan the assassination so well then bungle the escape and still be in the country a couple of days later.
The thing about the Palantir system is that it’s a state space of everyone in America. Meaning you can approach the network with a query and it will find the shortest path from your query to a person.
There’s no real evidence or investigation involved, just:
SELECT * FROM people WHERE face LIKE "image.jpg", last_location WITHIN_DISTANCE("75 MILES", "<lat>, <lon>"), MOOD("United Healthcare") < 0 as uhc_mood TOP 5 ORDER BY uhc_mood ASCI agree that it’s possible the super advanced surveillance systems that Palantir et al have could’ve been used to find him and Luigi did do it, but then that goes into the parallel construction theory, that the evidence was still planted to solidify a case (especially when the evidence actually utilized to find the subject is inadmissible for some reason).
I’m not saying that they got the right guy, I’m saying that the way they use these AI systems to find patsys makes it very believable since the immediately available information will make them look guilty. You then just plant extra evidence until it’s “undeniable”.
Same way chatGPT is always plausibly correct at first glance.
i haven’t been too invested in his case, but i agree that the CCTV footage guy and luigi don’t look alike. who knows though.
I agree and I’m really curious if his legal defense is going to be The Shaggy Defense: ‘that wasn’t me’ 'cause it seems like everyone including news media started entirely assuming his guilt long before any evidence was presented by people other than the pigs who could completely make it up
I remember noting how horrible the journalistic malpractice was when Luigi was arrested and they were constantly using “the suspect” instead of “the shooter” or “the perpetrator.” Like, “the suspect shot at Thompson” kinds of sentences were so common when Luigi got taken into custody.
Same, I am absolutely unconvinced
luigi got snitched on by a maccas worker, nothing is too out there in this day and age
That’s more believable (and I still think it was parallel construction IF it was Luigi) than the possibility that this shooter went home to his scrupulous dad after the most high profile assassination in American politics in quite a few years, and decided to comply with whoever was turning him in.
fair point, now that i think about it this seems a bit fantastical. a guy who planned out everything to a T all of a sudden caves to his conscience out of the goodness of his heart because his dad told him to? yeah, something is wrong.
It’s very likely a groyper! These are the most nihilistic scumbags in the world, why would he suddenly face a bout of contrition? Did he see the face of Jesus on his morning toast or what?
maybe joseph smith came to him in a vision and told him that he’d get a pass to drink coffee if he turns himself in
Maybe even gasp a Dr. Pepper?
The non-caffeine Mormons are crazy as fuck. I worked with one a long time ago. He was always super chipper and overall a “nice guy.” But there’s something so unsettling about them. Every practicing Mormon I’ve ever met there’s just something off.
I saw that same guy at the gym one time at one of the bench presses. He didn’t have headphones on or anything. Still in his work clothes (blue collar stuff. Covered in oil and dirt). He just loads three plates on the bar, slides under, reps that shit, then sits there resting and does it again. No music. No phone between sets. Just like nodding to himself. Wild shit.
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suspect is 28-29 according to trump, new york post isn’t a reliable news source so please edit the name out for the time being.
It’s being repeated through multiple more reliable sources now. Tyler Robinson, age 22. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/charlie-kirk-shooter-manhunt-live-updates-rcna230762
Well here’s to you Mr Robinson
welp, i stand corrected. fucking hell, that’s the guy.
i won’t paste the name into my shooter masterpost until the FBI confirms him but fuck, that’s him.
How do you know it’s him?
same… pretty much everything. the hair, the clothes, the face. until officially confirmed i still have some doubt but it seems like that’s the guy.
Where did you see pictures of this subject? And why would he have the same clothes on 2 days later if the pictures are from today (or 1 day later if they’re from yesterday)?
Edit: just saw a pic shared on twitter by chud account breaking911, with the same Converse shoes but otherwise nothing that’s too close of a match.
Deleting for now, but photos are coming out and everything matches except for the shirt. Cap, sunglasses, jeans and shoes match.
I thought our american flag shirt guy was almost 30?
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Deleting for now because unreliable source, but the photos are coming out, and the shoes, jeans, cap and sunglasses match.
okies
Cox says that investigators interviewed Robinson’s roommate, who showed them messages between him and an account with the name “Tyler” on the messaging app Discord.
The messages from “Tyler” stated the need to retrieve a rifle from a drop point, leaving it in a bush, watching an area where the rifle was left and having left the weapon wrapped in a towel, Cox says.
Well that wasn’t a wise choice.
genuinely the biggest fucking dumbass of all time WHY would you tell anyone about shit like this???
Not writing a detailed confession to your crime unprompted on social media challenge - Difficulty Level: Couldn’t be easier!
I SWEAR DUDE just get off social media NOBODY is forcing you to tell anyone about the things you’re doing
Fuck that roommate though WTF
parents were catalyst for arrest - tyler made a bunch comments that made them suspect he was the shooter, the parents also are right wingers so
many such cases
I’m just surprised people actually give a shit about Charlie Kirk.
I think a lot of it is “it could be me next”
I’d imagine a lot less people probably would if the entire MSM hadn’t been fellating his image for the last two days
Hoping it’s just because of the graphic video
It’s definitely the spectacular spectacle of the kill shot, it made headlines worldwide, where they would have no clue who Kirk was, just stating that he was a Trump ally.
Consent manufacturing go brrrrrrrrr
they don’t, they’re pretending to. Chuds will use any excuse to rile the hogs and advocate for vengeance, twist all things into perceived slights and grievances. Last week nobody gave a shit about Kirk
Kirk doesn’t go to Valhalla, the gates can’t fit his head
Also you don’t get to see Valhalla if you die from a UwU bullet
Can’t fit in Valhalla, can’t argue his way into heaven, not wise enough to break the wheel of Samsara. He might be get the nice part of Hades if he tries really hard
please be named Mario
Tyler Robinson, age 22
Of course it’s a Tyler
this has the chance to become the funniest thing ever
LOL, “he had become more political in recent years”
Reminds me of the kid in Knives Out. “Very politically active”
“in recent years”
When did The Adam Friedland Show air? In recent years.
Your honour, I rest my case.
“Recent years” for a 22 year old is literally his entire adult life.
To be fair, this is also what Trump would say if they picked up any random person off the street. They want to publicly execute someone and make a big performance of it, and they’ll do it all the same whether they find the person who did it or not.
wouldn’t put it past them, but imma be real even the thought of something like that happening is horrifying. whoever’s getting charged with this is getting killed, that’s without a doubt.
On the plus side it can’t have been anyone from Hexbear because I don’t think anyone here is stupid enough to talk about their plans for doing something like this over Discord.
holy shit i do wonder what if the guy had a secret account on hexbear?? very improbable but it’s a fun thought.
If anyone here does an op with opsec this bad I will roast them so much.
This place had a discord community/lifeboat before the website came up and as I understand it’s still around to say nothing of various other ones. It’s largely an age thing, younger people have this incredible addiction to that platform like boomers with Facebook, they just can’t avoid using it and end up using it for all kinds of things they really shouldn’t.
I don’t think it’s platform addiction. It’s primarily about convenience. The people are already there therefore they use it.
The general point i’m making though is that our circles, even those of us using Discord, know not to use it for discussing illegal shit.
Lol the Guardian is reporting trump as saying that a cop (or cop-related position) knew the suspect and the suspect’s dad convinced him to go to the police. Sounds like a look-alike trying to clear his name is about to get thrown in the den of lions. Poor guy.
Edit: seems to just be another person completely incapable of running away lol. Went home to his dad and then turned himself in? What brainworms have infected this kid?
I can’t process how absurdly naive you have to be to do that.
I would guess the kid was worried that, even if he didn’t give himself up, that cop would’ve informed and other cops might’ve just come and shot him anyways. Idk what I’d do in the situation that a cop thought I was the killer in such a case. It’s really a rock and a hard place.
Yeah, it’s not like you could run to another country. Bad situation. But it would’ve been prudent to leave some kind of paper trail that you were specifically not admitting to anything or making any kind of confession; maybe someone who isn’t super noided wouldn’t think to do that.
wait really? oh jesus he is cooked.
I want to see photos of these casings.
valhalla lmao what
Here’s a 1 minute snippet of Trump’s interview with Fox
A church minister, who works with law enforcement, got the suspect’s farther to convince him to turn himself in, or something along those lines.
what a fucking idiot, god/dad ain’t gonna protect you when the feds are yanking your fingernails out
somehow that makes perfect sense
For Utah, yeah it does. That’s the super Mormon state, right?
uber mormon, basically the capital of the religion. absolutely unsurprising.
oh were cooked
Wait why, is he a commie
I didn’t hear too well because someone was talking to me over the part where they were going over some discord messages and at the very least he’s anti-fascist, one of his messages was something along the lines of “fuck fascists”. Being American though, I wouldn’t instantly assume he’s leftist. Supposedly one of the engravings on the bullet casings was,
(CW: Homophobic message)
“If you see this you’re gay LMAO”
one of them was “notices bulge OwO what’s this?”
i just listened to a very serious bald
man from the fbigovernor of utah read that outi think thats the one that killed him too
Good, saved the best for him.
Do you have a link to that video? Would love to see serious people read out shit like this
it was in this press conference
i missed the start of the stream earlier, turns out the bald man was actually the governor of utah or something
Thank you!
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
yeah the casings were allegedly
-hey fascist catch
-bella ciao bella ciao
- “up arrow symbol, right arrow symbol and three down arrows” (thank u MarmiteLover123!)
-if you see this youre gay lmao
if you see this youre gay lmao
That’s a good one, shame we’re all going to camps over it
Nick Mullen!?
The president of the DSA himself did this gasp
And an “up arrow symbol, right arrow symbol and three down arrows”
Also this is really, really bad.
Oh no, he’s a gamer
Not even an ⬆️⬆️⬇️⬇️⬅️➡️⬅️➡️🅰️🅱️▶️ smh.
What does this reference?
Helldivers, satiracle game based on verhooven’s starship troopers, it’s the call in for the 500kg bomb
it’s an airstrike code from helldivers 2
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up arrow symbol, right arrow symbol and three down arrows”
Oh fuck it’s a fighting games player
No no that’s Helldivers. It’s the 500kg bomb input.
At least we get to enjoy another bout of videogames cause violence pearl clutching
So fucked, oh boy, seems ironically homophobic in the way a queer person would use it
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None of this stuff is related to “transgender ideology” at all.
(CW: Homophobic message)
Could still be a lib
Oh no, the fascist was shot by a guy who doesn’t like fascists!
Bella Ciao lyrics on some bullets
Yeah I didn’t catch that initially.
I think they’re a lib though personally. I don’t think anyone in communists circles is stupid enough to discuss their plans on discord.
There are tons of young people who would do that. It’s an age thing. Zoomers love they discord and can’t get off it just as boomers love they facebook and can’t get off it. I think using facebook is an incredibly bad move yet people here admit to it. I think using facebook and being in lefty groups on it is even more wild yet people here admit to it and do it.
Let’s not forget. Initially the lifeboat was a discord group after /r/CTH got banned. People were in there for some time before this website was brought up.
Anyways it doesn’t matter. If it quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, can be spun as a duck, there’s no plausible explanation otherwise (and no, weird claims its some esoteric groyper nazi feud that “ironically” uses an incredibly well known anti-fascist song is not going to stick with what the Trump admin is pushing, with what cops will want to push, and with what the media will push given it helps crackdown on pro-palestine movement, no one is going to look that deep or care and I don’t personally believe it either given the other messages) we’re fucked.
Liberals aren’t going to care for your “but it couldn’t have been a leftist and here’s why” because it gets them out of the dog house, they can disavow and condemn and the target moves off them, chuds aren’t going to care because they want to attack the left and blame the left, government doesn’t care because it’s intent on blaming the left. It’s screaming into the void at this point.
Batten down the hatches, the storm approaches.
I have it on good authority he’s actually a mod on r/neoliberal
