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    14 hours ago

    Using AI to generate the things that are in my head is still an expression of creativity, is it not? Some people use paintbrushes, some people use computer aided design and let it be printed or built by others, some people use AI. Why aren’t those expressions of creativity?

    Adapt or die is a fact of life. We all have to adapt to change, if I didn’t have to, I’d be perfect. I’m nowhere near perfect. Neither are artists.

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      14 hours ago

      Using AI to generate the things that are in my head is still an expression of creativity, is it not?

      Yes. Not at the expense of other forms of art, though.

      Adapt or die is a fact of life

      Because you decided it is. Society does not have to be built that way.

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        12 hours ago

        Yes. Not at the expense of other forms of art, though.

        Which art forms are dying because of AI?

        Because you decided it is. Society does not have to be built that way.

        I didn’t decide anything, it’s just life. Move or get left behind. It’s how nature works. That’s just evolution. You don’t have to like it, but it’s a fact.

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          12 hours ago

          Which art forms are dying because of AI?

          Maybe ask artists who have their work stolen to feed AI models that then take their job. Again, this is a problem because capitalism made it one.

          Move or get left behind. It’s how nature works.

          We are not nature. We can make different decisions besides brutal evolutionary pressure.

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            11 hours ago

            Maybe ask artists who have their work stolen to feed AI models that then take their job.

            Does the death of an artist kill an art form? As you said, art is an expression of creativity. That is expressed in many ways. People have created art before AI and they will continue creating art after. Art isn’t just painting, or drawing, or acting, of sculpting, it can be found in sports, in engineering, in science, in the kitchen, on the playground, in our words, in our expressions, in fact it is everywhere around us. Attributing the death of creative expression to AI is misrepresenting the infinite ways it can be expressed.

            Again, this is a problem because capitalism made it one.

            I disagree, it’s a problem because people don’t want to evolve.

            We are not nature.

            We are a part of nature, or you claiming we are unnatural? What even is unnatural? Viruses modify host cells and subvert them to become virus factories, is that unnatural? Monkeys, crows, turtles, dolphins, ants, and a host of other animals use tools to achieve myriad goals.

            We can make different decisions besides brutal evolutionary pressure.

            Everything is constantly changing. Everything is “evolutionary pressure”. We are in no way unique in our existence. As a species, we aren’t special.

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              I disagree, it’s a problem because people don’t want to evolve.

              Oh. So you’re a social darwinist that believes that they are special enough that they’ll never be in the crosshairs. Great. Here’s hoping that you gain some empathy and a better understanding of human evolutionary and societal history (hint: altruism and caring for others who are unable to provide for themselves is the rule, not the exception).

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              . . . People have created art before AI and they will continue creating art after . . .

              All of which would be great in a society that isn’t capitalist. While we still have a capitalist society, artists are having their livelihood taken away.

              Again, this is a problem because capitalism made it one.

              I disagree, it’s a problem because people don’t want to evolve.

              Which is a brutal opinion to have.

              We are a part of nature, or you claiming we are unnatural?

              We are not slaves to nature. We can make decisions that are healthy for humanity. Killing people’s livelihoods so that billionaires can become trillionares is not healthy.

              Everything is constantly changing. Everything is “evolutionary pressure”. We are in no way unique in our existence. As a species, we aren’t special.

              That’s complete bullshit. Evolution cares about your ability to reproduce and nothing else. The fact that we have things that do not help this goal is proof that our society is something beyond mere evolution.

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        13 hours ago

        We do decide that. Because progress will not be stopped. If we’d let people’s jobs stand in the way of progress we’d still be picking berries naked in the woods.

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          Progress does not at all require an “adapt or die” mindset. Not at all. And it’d still be barbaric if we did. More barbaric than picking berries naked in the woods.