They are saying they want to be able to quickly create images and do not want this to be a hobby, so its odd your response is that they should find another hobby to a thing that clearly isnt a hobby to them.
Heres another example: Many people get really into cast iron. I couldn’t be arsed to do half the shit they do with their cast iron, so I’m fine with doing the bare minimum on a seasoned carbon steel, stainless steel or (gasp) nonstick.
Some people would be angry and tell me to get another hobby, and my response is that this is not my hobby, and I don’t want it to be.
I just don’t get comments like these. Who do you think you’re convincing here?
Do you think there are people who want to use AI for a quick meme, who then suddenly will do something they find boring and arduous because you told them to and hate the tool they use?
It feels like your comment, like many here, comes from a point of not even starting to pretend to understand the people it lectures to. Its not a way to win friends, arguments or succeed at your anti AI goals.
There are so many actual legitimate arguments and points of contention.
I was literally just joking around a bit saying that it’s fun to draw weird little guys. Which it is.
You’re projecting more into it because you’ve been told by others that you using gen ai sucks. Which it does.
I think if you can’t be assed to draw a little doodle on your own then the shit isn’t worth being made. Especially the shit ass memes people are generating with it. If you don’t care enough to try even a little when why fucking bother at all? Do we really need more brain dead slop on the internet?
This can be tested very easily with the question, whats the joke?
You’re projecting more into it because you’ve been told by others that you using gen ai sucks. Which it does.
The fact you are making these assumptions of me based on a comment you swear is a “joke” points to it definitely not being.
I, for the record, am not an artist ai or non ai, so its very strange you feel so impassioned about this point that you feel that every person who has any opinion is either for or against exactly yours.
I think if you can’t be assed to draw a little doodle on your own then the shit isn’t worth being made.
I mean cool story, but why would anyone else who doesn’t feel that way be convinced by your standoffish attitude and complete lack of an argument from any perspective other than your own?
Especially the shit ass memes people are generating with it.
This part is especially confusing to me. If people are entertained, and its worth what it has always been worth, what is the anger towards exactly?
If you don’t care enough to try even a little when why fucking bother at all?
This is the first you’ve even pretended to be thinking about other perspectives yet clearly didn’t.
The answer is, because good enough, is good enough, and people care about making a funny meme, not any of the artistry behind it.
Its the same way I’m sure someone out there would decry the use of carbon steel or nonstick vs cast iron, but most people would shrug because they don’t give a shit about said thing; its just a means to an end, and whatever accomplishes that with the least pain points wins.
Don’t worry about that dude, he’s a sad, strange little man.
Almost all of his comments are these huge responses to arguments that he’s started, where he tries to make himself seem ‘logically superior’ or some shit.
You got me! Bravo, sir.
I’m actually chronically on lemmy, and every couple of months I use this account to back up my various alts.
I now offer my mouth as a warm place for you to place your balls, as you are clearly more superior than I.
My SO is a top tier artist. It like watching some mathematical sequence put on paper slowly become reality. With human brain creating new better image with each stroke.
But I cant draw a straight line with ruler. Even with blender work we do, I get tips but it doesnt sink in. All I undertsand is the technical applications but The fundamentals of art just Never was fun for me. All I see are flaws in my work and I hate my brain doesnt see how to fix it. If my SO wasn’t around I probably wouldn’t even do blender.
All artists see all the flaws of their work. That’d a normal experience to have.
And you did used to have fun drawing as a kid, it’s just now you’re worried about making something look good, rather than just the fun of creating something. Try doodling once in a while while you’re on the phone just to make something because you can.
I remember the exact moment I gave up on art as small child. I made something and it got lost. Spent hrs on something and poof gone. I tried but couldn’t recreate it. whatever spark I had was gone. Plus simple things like coloring in the lines was hard. It still is lol. Meanwhile things like science can always be recreated. its never lost just waiting to rediscovered.
I can appreciate art but I’ve given up on creating it without any form of assistance. Can’t even remember the last time I did a doodle. My SO makes doodles everywhere we go lol.
Human time costs resources, and human aren’t that energy efficient.
Would it take more energy & resources for a person to inefficiently grind away at a task they dislike than for a machine that can perform it fairly quickly?
There’s also opportunity cost, eg, shit we’d rather do.
Time spent on an unwanted task is time we don’t get to spend on something better.
Drawing’s been figured out by better artists, and there are better problems to solve that those artists absolutely suck at.
Fuck that: I don’t want to draw. Better a machine do it.
Then find another hobby you’re passionate in?
Right, I’d rather do those & get drawings elsewhere like that machine that does it easily.
Whatever floats your boat. Just don’t go arguing that machine somehow makes you superior.
They are saying they want to be able to quickly create images and do not want this to be a hobby, so its odd your response is that they should find another hobby to a thing that clearly isnt a hobby to them.
Heres another example: Many people get really into cast iron. I couldn’t be arsed to do half the shit they do with their cast iron, so I’m fine with doing the bare minimum on a seasoned carbon steel, stainless steel or (gasp) nonstick.
Some people would be angry and tell me to get another hobby, and my response is that this is not my hobby, and I don’t want it to be.
If art isn’t something you’re passionate in, then find something that is. That’s literally all I was suggesting.
What does your suggestion have to do with anything?
I’m really into automation and ai
Trust me, the dopamine hit you get when drawing a weird little guy is unmatched. It’ll get ya hooked!
Then draw him again in a different pose and baby, you’re animatin’!
I just don’t get comments like these. Who do you think you’re convincing here?
Do you think there are people who want to use AI for a quick meme, who then suddenly will do something they find boring and arduous because you told them to and hate the tool they use?
It feels like your comment, like many here, comes from a point of not even starting to pretend to understand the people it lectures to. Its not a way to win friends, arguments or succeed at your anti AI goals.
There are so many actual legitimate arguments and points of contention.
I was literally just joking around a bit saying that it’s fun to draw weird little guys. Which it is.
You’re projecting more into it because you’ve been told by others that you using gen ai sucks. Which it does.
I think if you can’t be assed to draw a little doodle on your own then the shit isn’t worth being made. Especially the shit ass memes people are generating with it. If you don’t care enough to try even a little when why fucking bother at all? Do we really need more brain dead slop on the internet?
This can be tested very easily with the question, whats the joke?
The fact you are making these assumptions of me based on a comment you swear is a “joke” points to it definitely not being.
I, for the record, am not an artist ai or non ai, so its very strange you feel so impassioned about this point that you feel that every person who has any opinion is either for or against exactly yours.
I mean cool story, but why would anyone else who doesn’t feel that way be convinced by your standoffish attitude and complete lack of an argument from any perspective other than your own?
This part is especially confusing to me. If people are entertained, and its worth what it has always been worth, what is the anger towards exactly?
This is the first you’ve even pretended to be thinking about other perspectives yet clearly didn’t.
The answer is, because good enough, is good enough, and people care about making a funny meme, not any of the artistry behind it.
Its the same way I’m sure someone out there would decry the use of carbon steel or nonstick vs cast iron, but most people would shrug because they don’t give a shit about said thing; its just a means to an end, and whatever accomplishes that with the least pain points wins.
Again, I was just saying it’s fun to draw weird little guys.
You’re the one in the “fuck ai” lemmy page being a weird baby about people saying ai gen is dumb.
Also joking around is not the same as telling a joke. So I dunno, maybe the joke here is you being a big whiny baby.
Figger it out.
Don’t worry about that dude, he’s a sad, strange little man.
Almost all of his comments are these huge responses to arguments that he’s started, where he tries to make himself seem ‘logically superior’ or some shit.
Oh I’m not, it’s clear he’s got his head real far up his ass. Jumped into a thread to bitch, in a page made for shitting on ai shit.
I didn’t even reply to his comment initially he just had to defend some other goober being a baby.
What a strange comment for you to post after 2 months of not posting. Almost looks like an alt used to support yourself lemsip@sh.itjust.works
You got me! Bravo, sir.
I’m actually chronically on lemmy, and every couple of months I use this account to back up my various alts.
I now offer my mouth as a warm place for you to place your balls, as you are clearly more superior than I.
Lmao yeah you’re really onto something there Sherlock.
This is such a weak backpedalling response of just pretending you say things in a vacuum for no reason.
What are you, a 4chan user too with that spelling? What are you trying to do there.
Canadian, ya friggin goof!
That explains literally nothing. I am myself, so the idea that would explain it is very weird.
It doesn’t come up as a regularly used term at all.
So same thing?
Why don’t you want to draw? It’s fun.
My SO is a top tier artist. It like watching some mathematical sequence put on paper slowly become reality. With human brain creating new better image with each stroke.
But I cant draw a straight line with ruler. Even with blender work we do, I get tips but it doesnt sink in. All I undertsand is the technical applications but The fundamentals of art just Never was fun for me. All I see are flaws in my work and I hate my brain doesnt see how to fix it. If my SO wasn’t around I probably wouldn’t even do blender.
All artists see all the flaws of their work. That’d a normal experience to have.
And you did used to have fun drawing as a kid, it’s just now you’re worried about making something look good, rather than just the fun of creating something. Try doodling once in a while while you’re on the phone just to make something because you can.
I remember the exact moment I gave up on art as small child. I made something and it got lost. Spent hrs on something and poof gone. I tried but couldn’t recreate it. whatever spark I had was gone. Plus simple things like coloring in the lines was hard. It still is lol. Meanwhile things like science can always be recreated. its never lost just waiting to rediscovered.
I can appreciate art but I’ve given up on creating it without any form of assistance. Can’t even remember the last time I did a doodle. My SO makes doodles everywhere we go lol.
Then you do it. Or better yet, I’ll just tell this machine.
Lame and sad. You used to know it was fun and did it, and now you would rather wreck the environment for a boring image that no one likes
Human time costs resources, and human aren’t that energy efficient. Would it take more energy & resources for a person to inefficiently grind away at a task they dislike than for a machine that can perform it fairly quickly?
There’s also opportunity cost, eg, shit we’d rather do. Time spent on an unwanted task is time we don’t get to spend on something better.
Drawing’s been figured out by better artists, and there are better problems to solve that those artists absolutely suck at.