Enjoy your little echo bubble chamber, so your liwwle feewings don’t get hurt as you get left behind by people using those tools.
Not even necessarily because they’re better than you, but because management values them and people who use them, and therefore you’re choosing to leave yourself at an irrational disadvantage for no fucking reason.
There’s always at least one condescending prick that comes in here and trolls. There’s room for discussion in this community, but the majority of your comments in this thread are doom focused and in bad faith.
it’s funny you mention echo chambers because the whole point to AI is to generate an echo of human interaction.
the end user is literally responding to echos of human responses.
on top of it all, AI enthusiast communities (even here on lemmy) have outright banned anyone arguing against AI. yet…here you still are on the anti-ai community spouting your drivel.
it’s hilarious that AI supporting shills are so deep in their psychosis they can’t even manage to see the hypocrisy they self-promote.
step away from the AI dude. it has damaged your cognitive abilities.
I could reply to the same person that you are, but I felt it was much funnier if I reply to your comment and say that I love how I can feel your incredulous exasperation, and that I relate.
This is a fairly trite comment, and it is very echo-chambery, in the sense that you’re the preacher, I’m the choir. However, as you point out, LLMs and Generative AI make the phrase “echo chamber” far more literal. I feel like it’s funny to engage in parallel conversation with you, while ignoring the pro-AI oddball you’re replying to.
Either you read my original point, or you keep circling the pot and resorting to red herrings and straw-men because your fallacious ass is not rational enough to reply to the heart of the matter which I presented in my original comment.
Enjoy your little echo bubble chamber, so your liwwle feewings don’t get hurt as you get left behind by people using those tools.
nothing about jobs. just petulance.
Not even necessarily because they’re better than you, but because management values them and people who use them, and therefore you’re choosing to leave yourself at an irrational disadvantage for no fucking reason.
nothing about jobs. just ranting about management values and disadvantages based on management perception.
As much of an idiot as someone who goes to a group literally called “Fuck AI” and is shocked to the core that people in the group might not like LLMbeciles and the plain old imbeciles using them?
It’s not about the idiots using them, it’s about the idiots hiring them. If you don’t conform to the job market out of sheer stubbornness you’re a fucking dumbass.
The “experience” as you call it would be getting rejected by jobs that assume AI usage has become necessary.
There is no line in finding a job, it’s an existential need, you can’t live without food or water you can only buy from the money you get paid. So the “line” is moral. You’re denying job opportunities for morals 🙄…
That wasn’t the argument nor the question. The question is where do you draw the line. I gave an extreme example I assumed is on the far side of your line. Once we have that, we can do like a binary search and try to find it. Come on, man.
Alright, I do seem to draw the line further than your group at the very least, but equating that with an Auschwitz example? Not cool.
So yes, I’m perfectly fine using a garbage, insane, and very probably inefficient AI in order to get a job so I can live. I’m sorry you prefer to be against it all and therefore judge anyone else not in a privileged-enough position to have a choice in the matter.
I’m sure you all have cushy jobs, that would explain a lot actually. Would be fun to do a poll on that at some point…
If you would rather stay on your pedestals and judge people because you’re above and beyond them, as you have the choice to do so, that’s your prerogative.
I give people the benefit of the doubt because I know using AI can be forced onto someone by their company if it so happens that they don’t have a choice. That’s called compassion, otherwise known as empathy. Your entire group’s reaction to my post was one of attack and derision, so I am well aware of where you all stand wrt to empathy.
I did think most of your little pompous group* seemed like they were sufficiently well-off to rest on your high horses and feel adequately rich to judge everyone else around you for their choices.
I don’t judge anyone making whatever choice they have to make to survive, especially wrt using AI given how it’s shoved down everyone’s throat.
I do have little patience for someone who comes all guns blazing, calling someone an idiot over that very fact, and dares talk about empathy after belittling the OPs “liwwle feelings”.
I have zero patience for the actually rich people who force that shit on us and would love not to see stupid infighting between people who suffer and are alienated from it.
This is pretty much what my initial, admittedly too snarky, response meant. Now either you’re trolling or this is, for whatever reason, a sensitive subject for you. In both cases I don’t see the point of discussing that further and apologies if I hurt you.
One more thing: Don’t assume people that don’t like the synthetic text extrusion machines that people refer to as “AI” don’t know anything about how they work, or how to integrate and deploy them. I think you’d be surprised at the sorts of people hanging out in c/FuckAI.
But what do I know, I make sandwiches for a living ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I am not denying that these jobs are facing pressure now, but that’s exactly why you should conform to the demands of the job market and not be bullheaded in your denial of a tool deemed essential by so many employers to this day (even if some are finding out the hard way that it isn’t all positive).
So I stand by my point that stubborn denial of AI as a tool, and I mean a tool useful to being hired, is stupid.
Enjoy your little echo bubble chamber, so your liwwle feewings don’t get hurt as you get left behind by people using those tools.
Not even necessarily because they’re better than you, but because management values them and people who use them, and therefore you’re choosing to leave yourself at an irrational disadvantage for no fucking reason.
You’re an idiot.
There’s always at least one condescending prick that comes in here and trolls. There’s room for discussion in this community, but the majority of your comments in this thread are doom focused and in bad faith.
it’s funny you mention echo chambers because the whole point to AI is to generate an echo of human interaction.
the end user is literally responding to echos of human responses.
on top of it all, AI enthusiast communities (even here on lemmy) have outright banned anyone arguing against AI. yet…here you still are on the anti-ai community spouting your drivel.
it’s hilarious that AI supporting shills are so deep in their psychosis they can’t even manage to see the hypocrisy they self-promote.
step away from the AI dude. it has damaged your cognitive abilities.
I could reply to the same person that you are, but I felt it was much funnier if I reply to your comment and say that I love how I can feel your incredulous exasperation, and that I relate.
This is a fairly trite comment, and it is very echo-chambery, in the sense that you’re the preacher, I’m the choir. However, as you point out, LLMs and Generative AI make the phrase “echo chamber” far more literal. I feel like it’s funny to engage in parallel conversation with you, while ignoring the pro-AI oddball you’re replying to.
You’re so deep in YOUR echo chamber that you don’t see my argument for what it is lmao. I’m talking about jobs, idiot.
are you? I just thought it was some nonsensical ramblings of a psychosis addled brain.
my mistake.
I’m too stupid to understand what you’re trying to say, can you articulate your point better so I can understand?
We finally agree on something.
and yet you still fail to explain your point.
either you don’t have a point or you’re unable to communicate due to extensive AI brain rot.
which is it?
Either you read my original point, or you keep circling the pot and resorting to red herrings and straw-men because your fallacious ass is not rational enough to reply to the heart of the matter which I presented in my original comment.
nothing about jobs. just petulance.
nothing about jobs. just ranting about management values and disadvantages based on management perception.
couldn’t have said it better myself.
Do you think management grows on trees or something?
As much of an idiot as someone who goes to a group literally called “Fuck AI” and is shocked to the core that people in the group might not like LLMbeciles and the plain old imbeciles using them?
It’s not about the idiots using them, it’s about the idiots hiring them. If you don’t conform to the job market out of sheer stubbornness you’re a fucking dumbass.
So anything, no matter how foolish or evil, is acceptable so long as “the market” desires it? Complaining about it makes you a dumbass?
Or are there things that should be pushed back on? What is the line?
Also, is it “sheer stubbornness” is a collection of concerns and objections grounded in facts and experience?
The “experience” as you call it would be getting rejected by jobs that assume AI usage has become necessary.
There is no line in finding a job, it’s an existential need, you can’t live without food or water you can only buy from the money you get paid. So the “line” is moral. You’re denying job opportunities for morals 🙄…
There is no line? Absolutely nothing? You would work at an Auschwitz styled concentration camp for food money?
Because AI = Auschwitz, clearly an argument from a sane mind.
That wasn’t the argument nor the question. The question is where do you draw the line. I gave an extreme example I assumed is on the far side of your line. Once we have that, we can do like a binary search and try to find it. Come on, man.
Alright, I do seem to draw the line further than your group at the very least, but equating that with an Auschwitz example? Not cool.
So yes, I’m perfectly fine using a garbage, insane, and very probably inefficient AI in order to get a job so I can live. I’m sorry you prefer to be against it all and therefore judge anyone else not in a privileged-enough position to have a choice in the matter.
I’m sure you all have cushy jobs, that would explain a lot actually. Would be fun to do a poll on that at some point…
If you would rather stay on your pedestals and judge people because you’re above and beyond them, as you have the choice to do so, that’s your prerogative.
I give people the benefit of the doubt because I know using AI can be forced onto someone by their company if it so happens that they don’t have a choice. That’s called compassion, otherwise known as empathy. Your entire group’s reaction to my post was one of attack and derision, so I am well aware of where you all stand wrt to empathy.
If you accept any abuse directed your way for a few coppers, you’re not a dumbass. You’re just craven.
But I guess the answer to the question I actually asked is “No, nowhere near as idiotic”.
Better to be an idiot than management’s yappy lapdog.
Then don’t get hired I guess? How’s your air-based diet?
Doing alright, thanks for your concern.
I did think most of your little pompous group* seemed like they were sufficiently well-off to rest on your high horses and feel adequately rich to judge everyone else around you for their choices.
I don’t judge anyone making whatever choice they have to make to survive, especially wrt using AI given how it’s shoved down everyone’s throat.
I do have little patience for someone who comes all guns blazing, calling someone an idiot over that very fact, and dares talk about empathy after belittling the OPs “liwwle feelings”.
I have zero patience for the actually rich people who force that shit on us and would love not to see stupid infighting between people who suffer and are alienated from it.
This is pretty much what my initial, admittedly too snarky, response meant. Now either you’re trolling or this is, for whatever reason, a sensitive subject for you. In both cases I don’t see the point of discussing that further and apologies if I hurt you.
Gobal Finance: Companies Face AI Buyer’s Remorse.
Vice: This Company Replaced Workers With AI. Now They’re Looking for Humans Again.
Techfinitive: 2025: the year of rehiring humans after AI fails.
One more thing: Don’t assume people that don’t like the synthetic text extrusion machines that people refer to as “AI” don’t know anything about how they work, or how to integrate and deploy them. I think you’d be surprised at the sorts of people hanging out in c/FuckAI.
But what do I know, I make sandwiches for a living ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I am not denying that these jobs are facing pressure now, but that’s exactly why you should conform to the demands of the job market and not be bullheaded in your denial of a tool deemed essential by so many employers to this day (even if some are finding out the hard way that it isn’t all positive).
So I stand by my point that stubborn denial of AI as a tool, and I mean a tool useful to being hired, is stupid.
Stop. You’re embarrassing yourself. I am embarrassed for you.
Keep being stubborn and facing a hiring ecological dead-zone then.
Its a quote from the article. Its really sad that AI bros have forgotten how to read more than a paragraph.