We have a tradition of representative government and more honest leadership. Trying to get offended on behalf of people that live under despotic governments elsewhere is the reason why everybody hates the politically correct.
representative governance is when you rig electoral district maps to avoid populations of people with a certain race and honest leadership is when you have a a pedophiles on both sides of the political aisle.
No, the west does not have any such tradition. Further, I think you’re a bit confused if you think a bunch of commies are considered “politically correct,” unless you just mean that we aren’t racist.
This is a bunch of kindergarten- level mythology about the shining city on a hill that is equal parts laughable and disgusting to anyone who has been paying attention for any length of time.
You guys got really upset about saying our western style governments are being turned into Eastern Style governments. I guess you are all pretty emotional aren’t you?
It is truly an ignorant argument you are making here though, do not let however many half wits voting with your Half Baked assumption here convince you otherwise.
Dang that Eastern government of China for having a higher home ownership rate, higher protein intake and lower homeless rate! We’re totally turning into one of those guys!!!
What a fucking buffoon. “emotionally” we are laughing at you.
Well that’s good for you, you will enjoy our new system then! Just watch your social score! The term eastern and western governments is more traditionally used in regards to the liberal democracies of the west, from the Greeks and Romans to the enlightenment era representative governments, as opposed to the all powerful rulers of egypt, the persians, the Ottoman empire, and russia. But don’t let me teach you anything.
Greeks and Romans to the enlightenment era representative governments
Slave society, slave society, slave society, and the Eastern/Western dichotomy laid out in the centuries-old political literature that you uphold in such high esteem was established by race science-touting imperialists and other chauvinists
You’re not talking about what esteem we hold the government’s in, or they’re assorted ills. We are talking about the structure of government, being representative, or being autocratic. You can say but those representative governments were mean! No shit? That is not what is an issue here. You could discount any event from history with the logic you are trying to use here.
I have to watch my credit score to own a house, have an apartment, get a decent rate on car insurance and live a normal life. Already have to do that, chucklefuck.
“from the Greeks and Romans to the enlightenment era representative governments”
Whom were savages and equally capable of violence on those deemed “barbarians” or lesser. The Romans and Greeks taught up some important things; but they show us nothing to take from example in a socialist governance. Drop the “TRVTH WEST” bullshit because most of here want to see the West completely destroyed!
At least the Ottoman and Persian shahdoms during the 800s-1400s provided us the Golden Age of Islam which propelled and powered the renaissance. Oh, and most of the European renaissance came from Byzantine scholars whom had preserved and kept the classics of the Greeks fleeing the fall of Constantinople towards Italy. Can you guess what these glorious, enlightened and catholic nations did to the Byzantines during the siege?
You do know history, you say. Why is that history paints such a dark, grim picture of Europe?
You do not realize.or care they are doing the same with palantir now, to be used in secret in biz and gov against us.
Since you already accept democracy such as it is still, being replaced with an eastern style autocracy ala russia it should be an easy transition for you, until you cannot pay your bills at least, after they take breakfast and dinner from you and not just lunch.
It will give you something to think about during your 6-12 work week, 6 days a week 12 hours a day for starvation wages.
It will give you something to think about during your 6-12 work week, 6 days a week 12 hours a day for starvation wages.
Migrants think about providing a better life like this for their family as the U.S intervenes, destroys and annihilates any nascent leftist movement or anti-imperialist movement in Latin America. With over 100 interventions to boot, there’s plenty of migrants to fulfill that role in the governance of the west while a comfortable, captured proletariat and their ruling class suck up the wages and resources from the global south.
until you cannot pay your bills at least, after they take breakfast and dinner from you and not just lunch.
Well, funny enough, I had that in glorious America. I didn’t have a washing machine, hot water, a microwave or oven, proper housing and grew up inside of a demunincipalized slum. You think I got regular breakfast and dinner? Haha. Sorta, until they cut food stamps and social services further and my family didn’t apply anymore.
People in “horrible eastern-style autocracies” had more than me and hundreds of other people in the neighborhood I grew up in. Weird how that works, huh?
What does that have to do with the West having their representative governments replaced with autocracies?
In case you are unaware by the way, plenty of people go without here. We have been getting squeezed for 50 years and we are now at the point where a full-time job does not pay for life for a larger number of people.
And I bet if you need to see a doctor you would not be forced to pay 10 times what everybody else in the world pays and a hundred times for a drug.
The victims of the United States government includes United States citizens.
The war on poverty of Linden B Johnson turned into a war against those in poverty. Their own undesirables. A rank that will grow and grow in numbers in time.
To reiterate, I did not originally say anything wrong, and to refer to Eastern governments principally refers to the near East and Middle East. But it also does apply to China.
You are so hip with your dog references there buddy. But pal I must tell you, we have 5-8 work weeks, and anything over that is time and a half. Because unions.
Because your grandfather’s, instead of manufacturing politically correct in fractions to attack people on, organized and fought to get a fair share of economic output for their labor.
I can’t tell you enough how much saying this phrase is like extreme repellent to any woman who isn’t white. Like this is cartoonishly racist and nasty.
You do realize this is terminology used in books for hundreds of years including our modern era, terminology nobody has taken issue with until you guys here right now. The auxiliary PC Brigade. You guys are the reason the right calls everybody woke and people support their bullshit.
It would be governmentist, bigoted against eastern style autocracies in favor of representative government, which as your group does not know what that means, it means electing leaders, having a free press, and being able to criticize people like your leaders and so forth. Eastern Style governments for thousands of years have referred to everything from Egypt to the Ottoman Empire to the Persians, a single all-powerful ruler.
But it is good for your own mental health that you do not support representative government because it is now being taken away from you, and you are going to criticize anybody that mentions it apparently. Nice contribution.
Says the person with your username. Ha ha ha. Ok pal. Such a brave PC Warrior, how dare somebody reference the difference between Western representative governments and Eastern autocracies! It can’t be allowed. Luckily they are turning us into an Eastern style autocracy so enjoy! No don’t bother trying to help stop it, take any excuse you can to try to get the offended on behalf of other people to get your outrage boner off. Like I said, everybody hates the overly PC. Everybody.
I’m in the former camp personally, they haven’t devolved into strings of slurs no one uses anymore like a boomer would. Strikes me more as a kid who is very poorly socialised and watches too many “SJW owned” compilations on youtube and thinks that’s how the world actually works.
Why are they called “western” and “eastern” style, what immutable characteristic are you assigning to these two groups? Answer without any redditisms for bonus points
Western style governments elect their leaders, they have the Free Press, and they are allowed to criticize their leaders and companies. Something that does not and has not ever existed in the East to any large degree.
They are taking that away from us right now and you are spending your energy attacking me because it’s popular for you. Might be why we are losing. We being those that do not want to live under a supreme leader.
No, because I did not see anything wrong and I welcome the app probation of those seeking to get offended on behalf of other people without good cause. Nobody likes those people. The Republicans make a lot of hay out of you people by the way.
Maybe if you read more history you would realize what I was actually saying.
Remember back in the 1950s when Iran tried to do cultural appropriation of the West by electing a prime minister? Obviously the US had to overthrow them and set up the Shah as a puppet, returning the country to its rightful place as an “Eastern government”.
You are talking about the actions of governments, I’m talking about the style of governments. All governments do shitty things not the least the Western Colonial powers that tried to subjugate the entire world.
What is an issue here is having honest elections and being allowed to speak our minds and protest and such.
Have fun in your Eastern style government in the US here pal. They love the woke pc brigades. But you will be working 6 days a week 12 hours a day until you are replaced by machines and eliminated so you know.
You can barely spell, yet you’re talking to us about history. If you knew anything about “eastern vs western” governance you’d realize that lumping the middle-east with Asia completely ignores the history of exchange and development they have shared with each other as well as the majority of nations in one sphere being subjugated by Western exploitation and capital while the other maintains it’s sovereignty through economic domination of the West with equal levels of military detterence.
The only thing you’ve learned from history is pathetic chauvinism and a sense of patriotism for a government of pedophiles.
Amerikkkans are so brainwashed they don’t even recognize how brainwashed they are.
It’s precisely because you read only state department approved history that you think this way. Do you think Saddam was killing Kuwaiti babies in incubators? Do you believe Assad was using chemical weapons? What about Libya, did Gaddafi have WMDs too?
That is quite a jump from describing a Western Government turning into an Eastern Style government.
You do realize those trying to turn our representative governments into an.Eastern Style autocracy are the same ones that told us all of those things you just mentioned?
In case you didn’t notice our leaders project. Criticizing China for their iliberality as they try to do the same here.
You are extremely incoherent and have no actual ideology except west good east bad. Not even sure what to say to this belief system where your Western governments are simultaneously trying to turn into autocracy yet ontologically good because they’re the not the east? What the fuck.
Wait is this some arch liberal thinking where if the Democrats do imperialism and genocide it’s bringing the light of civilization to the world but if the Republicans are doing it then it becomes autocratic despotism? It would make a lot more sense if you were blue Maga tbh.
You just wrote a lot of words based on a false precept. Imputing racism based on a dumbass assumption is why everybody hates the politically correct. Everybody.
This is “I hate the government, not the people” in a new dress. Homie was probably sharing Wuhan Flu memes back in 2020 while saying, “That’s just where it’s from, I’m not being racist!”
Our republic is being replaced with an eastern style autocracy and you are viciously attacking someone for making that distinction that has been used for centuries.
To call it ignorant misses the counter productive nature of it. No one like people stretching any words to impute bigotry, not the least when your great minds find fault with existing language in writings long used without controversy.
You are why the right gets play calling things woke. Fox news loves you guys. Do better.
Are you doing that reddit brained dipshit thing where you think that every person replying to you is the same person? The only one with a lot of time on their hands here is you because you are the one continuing the conversation. That reply was from 12 hours ago, and 10 hours later you came back for more!
It’s not my fault the auxiliary PC Brigade has nothing better to do then try to fall asleep claim bigotry without even understanding the point. A point in which you would agree in other contexts. But the PC Brigade never misses the chance to stroke off their outrage boners. That is why everybody hates the PC brigade, and why the word woke gets thrown around it’s a great effect by cynical politicians that are at this moment trying to turn us into an Eastern style autocracy away from our Western liberal democracies.
describing shit like “an eastern style government” is what outs you as being profoundly 1) ignorant and 2) racist
like, when the U.S. supported a police dictatorship in South Korea that did literally every awful thing North Korea has been accused of, including but not limited to “killing people for having the wrong haircut” (the anti- queue shit), is that a EASTERN STYLE government, because it’s a dictatorship led by perfidious asiatics? Or is it a WESTERN STYLE government, since it’s literally a puppet of a western government? (hint, it’s the second one nerd)
like do you even have enough braincells to comprehend what’s fucked up about the fucked up shit you say
r/neoliberal user talking about “evidence-based policy” when they don’t actually have a firm grasp of even the identity of any of the studies that they take as being the authoritative statements on various subjects.
Western style governments refer to having elections, a free press, being allowed to criticize the powerful. That is not my terminology by the way, that is hundreds of years of terminology.
That is not my terminology by the way, that is hundreds of years of terminology.
The minimum number of years this could be is 200. At that time, 1825, most of Europe was run by monarchies still, with just a couple of hemi-demi-semi-democratic republics and hybrid governments (like England, excluding its colonies, which it ruled over despotically). +1 more for America as another fractionally democratic state. idk, I think if you’re calling those governments totally superior to “Eastern Governments,” you might just be, uh, uncritically parroting racists.
This is again similar to what the system claims vs. what the system produces/actually functions. We do have elections, but we also have like 66% voter turnout and we also have studies indicating massively popular policies never get passed (e.g. universal healthcare, tax billionaires, etc). Free press is debatable. All US mainstream news outlets are owned by the billionaire class, hardly any of them speak pro Palestine positions. Manufacturing Consent does a good job explaining how the US supposedly free press functions to ultimately peddle state department talking points and status quoisms.
Obviously the system has never been perfect and further corrupted from me Glory Days of the post war era however lacking they were,
But we kept elections and freedom of expressio, something eastern governments rarely had going back 2500 years.
And what you say is my fucking point to begin with. They are taking away our governmental structure, and replacing it with an Eastern style one, which is to say an autocracy with no freedom of expression, no freedom of the press, and us at the complete mercy of the Criminal Justice System.
However bad it is now, you better believe it’s going to get a whole lot worse. Unless you guys get your head out of the establishment Democrats’ ass and help get some electable, populist, and aggressive candidates that know how to build and run a political machine.
“But we kept elections and freedom of expression, something eastern governments rarely had going back 2500 years.”*
The “west” has a history of colonialism and vast destruction of the global south through conquest and death that continues in the spirit of economic domination of third world nations via resource extraction and debt-traps through the IMF. At no point does our “Rich History” matters when all we’ve used it for is to oppress entire nations, classes of people and races of people.
“which is to say an autocracy with no freedom of expression, no freedom of the press, and us at the complete mercy of the Criminal Justice System.”
wowza almost like suspected anarchists and communists in the 1920s-1980s under the U.S government!
First of all, Russia has never been considered a western style government they have always had in eastern style government.
Second of all, you are denying there is a difference between countries that elect their leaders, and countries with an all-powerful ruler.
Don’t let your PC auxiliary Brigade cohorts here think you are on to something, it is really too stupid for me to argue against here truly. As such I did not read whatever dribble you wrote.
In case you don’t know all the people accusing you of Nazi level racism and insinuating you should be executed for the levels of Nazi racism you are experiencing here should at least give you pause and make you reflect on your racist remarks.
Otherwise I would not really give two shits if someone splattered your brains over a brick wall.
Wow buddy you are getting pretty emotional. Yes that’s a good point, making a distinction between western style republics and Eastern Style autocracies is… a distinction written in books and Publications for hundreds of years, including our modern era, that nobody has taken issue with until your PC auxiliary Brigade got in on the action here. You are why cynical politicians accuse people of being woke and the voters embrace it. Everybody has been unfairly attacked by a PC group. Luckily I am enlightened so will not affect my political behavior, maybe your time would be better spent helping prevent us from becoming an autocracy instead of denying a difference between what we used to have in this country and across the west, and what we are now becoming.
Unless you guys get your head out of the establishment Democrats’ ass
holy shit dumbass, you clearly have not spent a single second on this site have you?
replacing it with an Eastern style one, which is to say an autocracy with no freedom of expression, no freedom of the press, and us at the complete mercy of the Criminal Justice System.
Famously, countries in the east have no freedom of expression and no freedom of the press, right? PLEASE understand that you have no idea what you’re talking about. You’re honestly telling me that you buy the propaganda that China, a country with 1.4 billion people, has no freedom of expression and no freedom of the press?
People are calling you a Western Chauvinist because you are spouting shit like this, which JUST SO HAPPENS to also align with the US State Department talking points. Hmm… So maybe you could stop posting and responding for a minute, and have the courage to listen to the comrades here that are telling you you have no clue what the fuck you’re talking about.
That is a lot of words to state that there is no difference between liberal democracies and eastern governments.
Words I did not read.
Since you are resigned to surrender your freedom to the party I do not value your opinion on anything, or your pc reactionaries, everyone hates this shit and I am proud to be in opposition to your faction.
I understand your point and frustration but the impasse we are at here I believe is that the avg hexbear user would claim liberal democracy will ALWAYS trend in this direction. The system is what it does. Sure, I think it’s good to elect strong socialist-adjacent progressives in your local areas to improve the life of working class people, but (someone correct me I’m mistaken) the philosophical position here is that the end result of the system is always fascism and capitalist dictatorship. It will always trend to this conclusion.
The purpose of a system is what it does. You can say it’s freedom and democracy all you want but all I’ve seen out of it is genocide, human trafficking, and money laundering regardless of which of your capitalist parties is in charge.
Not the point. Describing the system of government as being better does not endorse everything that government has done, not the least as it has become the superpower.
Western style governments elect leaders, they have free press, they can criticize their leaders, and so forth. Eastern governments have never had that tradition. Might makes right, you criticize the leader you are in trouble, no honest media exists, and they do not elect leaders in any honest way.
We have a tradition of representative government and more honest leadership. Trying to get offended on behalf of people that live under despotic governments elsewhere is the reason why everybody hates the politically correct.
representative governance is when you rig electoral district maps to avoid populations of people with a certain race and honest leadership is when you have a a pedophiles on both sides of the political aisle.
No, the west does not have any such tradition. Further, I think you’re a bit confused if you think a bunch of commies are considered “politically correct,” unless you just mean that we aren’t racist.
Pretty sure it’s the latter.
Yep, I think you’re right.
Time to whip out that massive hog of yours.
This is a bunch of kindergarten- level mythology about the shining city on a hill that is equal parts laughable and disgusting to anyone who has been paying attention for any length of time.
you have to be the dumbest person alive
no the fuck we don’t lmao
i really didn’t think my shitposts would have you dig such a grave for yourself but here we are, lol, lmao even
Saying this right after ranting about the “weakness of our political leaders” is incredible lol
You guys got really upset about saying our western style governments are being turned into Eastern Style governments. I guess you are all pretty emotional aren’t you?
It is truly an ignorant argument you are making here though, do not let however many half wits voting with your Half Baked assumption here convince you otherwise.
Dang that Eastern government of China for having a higher home ownership rate, higher protein intake and lower homeless rate! We’re totally turning into one of those guys!!!
What a fucking buffoon. “emotionally” we are laughing at you.
Well that’s good for you, you will enjoy our new system then! Just watch your social score! The term eastern and western governments is more traditionally used in regards to the liberal democracies of the west, from the Greeks and Romans to the enlightenment era representative governments, as opposed to the all powerful rulers of egypt, the persians, the Ottoman empire, and russia. But don’t let me teach you anything.
Slave society, slave society, slave society, and the Eastern/Western dichotomy laid out in the centuries-old political literature that you uphold in such high esteem was established by race science-touting imperialists and other chauvinists
You’re not talking about what esteem we hold the government’s in, or they’re assorted ills. We are talking about the structure of government, being representative, or being autocratic. You can say but those representative governments were mean! No shit? That is not what is an issue here. You could discount any event from history with the logic you are trying to use here.
I have to watch my credit score to own a house, have an apartment, get a decent rate on car insurance and live a normal life. Already have to do that, chucklefuck.
“from the Greeks and Romans to the enlightenment era representative governments”
Whom were savages and equally capable of violence on those deemed “barbarians” or lesser. The Romans and Greeks taught up some important things; but they show us nothing to take from example in a socialist governance. Drop the “TRVTH WEST” bullshit because most of here want to see the West completely destroyed!
At least the Ottoman and Persian shahdoms during the 800s-1400s provided us the Golden Age of Islam which propelled and powered the renaissance. Oh, and most of the European renaissance came from Byzantine scholars whom had preserved and kept the classics of the Greeks fleeing the fall of Constantinople towards Italy. Can you guess what these glorious, enlightened and catholic nations did to the Byzantines during the siege?
You do know history, you say. Why is that history paints such a dark, grim picture of Europe?
Have you checked your fucking credit score recently? It’s a good thing the fucking
CREDIT SCORE
doesn’t dictate
ANY FACIT OF HUMAN EXISTANCE IN AMERICA
I think this lad is too young to have a credit score, or even know what it actually is.
You do not realize.or care they are doing the same with palantir now, to be used in secret in biz and gov against us.
Since you already accept democracy such as it is still, being replaced with an eastern style autocracy ala russia it should be an easy transition for you, until you cannot pay your bills at least, after they take breakfast and dinner from you and not just lunch.
It will give you something to think about during your 6-12 work week, 6 days a week 12 hours a day for starvation wages.
Migrants think about providing a better life like this for their family as the U.S intervenes, destroys and annihilates any nascent leftist movement or anti-imperialist movement in Latin America. With over 100 interventions to boot, there’s plenty of migrants to fulfill that role in the governance of the west while a comfortable, captured proletariat and their ruling class suck up the wages and resources from the global south.
Well, funny enough, I had that in glorious America. I didn’t have a washing machine, hot water, a microwave or oven, proper housing and grew up inside of a demunincipalized slum. You think I got regular breakfast and dinner? Haha. Sorta, until they cut food stamps and social services further and my family didn’t apply anymore.
People in “horrible eastern-style autocracies” had more than me and hundreds of other people in the neighborhood I grew up in. Weird how that works, huh?
What does that have to do with the West having their representative governments replaced with autocracies?
In case you are unaware by the way, plenty of people go without here. We have been getting squeezed for 50 years and we are now at the point where a full-time job does not pay for life for a larger number of people.
And I bet if you need to see a doctor you would not be forced to pay 10 times what everybody else in the world pays and a hundred times for a drug.
The victims of the United States government includes United States citizens.
The war on poverty of Linden B Johnson turned into a war against those in poverty. Their own undesirables. A rank that will grow and grow in numbers in time.
To reiterate, I did not originally say anything wrong, and to refer to Eastern governments principally refers to the near East and Middle East. But it also does apply to China.
Dawg we literally have that in the US.
You are so hip with your dog references there buddy. But pal I must tell you, we have 5-8 work weeks, and anything over that is time and a half. Because unions.
Because your grandfather’s, instead of manufacturing politically correct in fractions to attack people on, organized and fought to get a fair share of economic output for their labor.
hey state department, come pick up your guy he’s getting tired
Lol!
aw shucks, I was so eager to learn from a literal toddler’s understanding of the world
Holy shit, did you step out of a time warp from 2014 Reddit?
Some folks just stop growing and, in some cases, actually start shrinking.
I can’t tell you enough how much saying this phrase is like extreme repellent to any woman who isn’t white. Like this is cartoonishly racist and nasty.
You do realize this is terminology used in books for hundreds of years including our modern era, terminology nobody has taken issue with until you guys here right now. The auxiliary PC Brigade. You guys are the reason the right calls everybody woke and people support their bullshit.
It would be governmentist, bigoted against eastern style autocracies in favor of representative government, which as your group does not know what that means, it means electing leaders, having a free press, and being able to criticize people like your leaders and so forth. Eastern Style governments for thousands of years have referred to everything from Egypt to the Ottoman Empire to the Persians, a single all-powerful ruler.
But it is good for your own mental health that you do not support representative government because it is now being taken away from you, and you are going to criticize anybody that mentions it apparently. Nice contribution.
In your mind, why do you imagine that anyone would be making fun of you for this?
Says the person with your username. Ha ha ha. Ok pal. Such a brave PC Warrior, how dare somebody reference the difference between Western representative governments and Eastern autocracies! It can’t be allowed. Luckily they are turning us into an Eastern style autocracy so enjoy! No don’t bother trying to help stop it, take any excuse you can to try to get the offended on behalf of other people to get your outrage boner off. Like I said, everybody hates the overly PC. Everybody.
Are you 16 or 60? Genuinely hard to tell. Leaning towards the latter
I’m in the former camp personally, they haven’t devolved into strings of slurs no one uses anymore like a boomer would. Strikes me more as a kid who is very poorly socialised and watches too many “SJW owned” compilations on youtube and thinks that’s how the world actually works.
Why are they called “western” and “eastern” style, what immutable characteristic are you assigning to these two groups? Answer without any redditisms for bonus points
Western style governments elect their leaders, they have the Free Press, and they are allowed to criticize their leaders and companies. Something that does not and has not ever existed in the East to any large degree.
They are taking that away from us right now and you are spending your energy attacking me because it’s popular for you. Might be why we are losing. We being those that do not want to live under a supreme leader.
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The fuck is this then?
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
oh fuck guys i just thought of something, are we seeing the first graduating class of that Austin Texas debatelord college?
I am dying to know why you have “half baked” capitalized here lmao
Must be a big Ben and Jerry’s fan.
Take the L homie, leaving this up for dunks
No, because I did not see anything wrong and I welcome the app probation of those seeking to get offended on behalf of other people without good cause. Nobody likes those people. The Republicans make a lot of hay out of you people by the way.
Maybe if you read more history you would realize what I was actually saying.
Remember back in the 1950s when Iran tried to do cultural appropriation of the West by electing a prime minister? Obviously the US had to overthrow them and set up the Shah as a puppet, returning the country to its rightful place as an “Eastern government”.
You are talking about the actions of governments, I’m talking about the style of governments. All governments do shitty things not the least the Western Colonial powers that tried to subjugate the entire world.
What is an issue here is having honest elections and being allowed to speak our minds and protest and such.
Have fun in your Eastern style government in the US here pal. They love the woke pc brigades. But you will be working 6 days a week 12 hours a day until you are replaced by machines and eliminated so you know.
I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make here. That I wouldn’t like living under a certain type of government that you made up?
You can barely spell, yet you’re talking to us about history. If you knew anything about “eastern vs western” governance you’d realize that lumping the middle-east with Asia completely ignores the history of exchange and development they have shared with each other as well as the majority of nations in one sphere being subjugated by Western exploitation and capital while the other maintains it’s sovereignty through economic domination of the West with equal levels of military detterence.
The only thing you’ve learned from history is pathetic chauvinism and a sense of patriotism for a government of pedophiles.
when the Play Store hasn’t approved your new update yet
When Mom says you need to put down the iPad and eat dinner.
All my microtransactions gone!
Homie, we are the well-read ones here.
Amerikkkans are so brainwashed they don’t even recognize how brainwashed they are.
It’s precisely because you read only state department approved history that you think this way. Do you think Saddam was killing Kuwaiti babies in incubators? Do you believe Assad was using chemical weapons? What about Libya, did Gaddafi have WMDs too?
That is quite a jump from describing a Western Government turning into an Eastern Style government.
You do realize those trying to turn our representative governments into an.Eastern Style autocracy are the same ones that told us all of those things you just mentioned?
In case you didn’t notice our leaders project. Criticizing China for their iliberality as they try to do the same here.
You are extremely incoherent and have no actual ideology except west good east bad. Not even sure what to say to this belief system where your Western governments are simultaneously trying to turn into autocracy yet ontologically good because they’re the not the east? What the fuck.
Wait is this some arch liberal thinking where if the Democrats do imperialism and genocide it’s bringing the light of civilization to the world but if the Republicans are doing it then it becomes autocratic despotism? It would make a lot more sense if you were blue Maga tbh.
You just wrote a lot of words based on a false precept. Imputing racism based on a dumbass assumption is why everybody hates the politically correct. Everybody.
Just sounds like you’re itching to say something racist
Really surprised they’ve just stuck with the reddit tier dogwhistles and haven’t actually let a slur out yet.
but have you considered this?
spoiler
Debate me bro debate me I love using
debate me that’s a logical fallacy bro that’s an ad hom bro
Read on authority dumbass https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/10/authority.htm
WHTA ARE WR A BIT NCH OF ASIANS
I do realize what you are actually saying and the fact you can’t fathom you are being racist as shit is why we hate fucking liberals.
Well it would be governmentist not racist.
And it is true that I am biased against autocratic governments ruled by despots.
But do not let me keep you here, don’t you have somebody to accuse of cultural appropriation?
“When I said hip-hop is worse for the black community than the Klan, that wasn’t racist, because I was talking about a music genre. It’s genre-ist.”
incredible brain you have there, please never stop posting lmao
This is “I hate the government, not the people” in a new dress. Homie was probably sharing Wuhan Flu memes back in 2020 while saying, “That’s just where it’s from, I’m not being racist!”
no, we’re more than happy to spend our time on continuing to correctly identify you as an uneducated and deeply unserious dipshit
I bet you do have nothing better to do.
Our republic is being replaced with an eastern style autocracy and you are viciously attacking someone for making that distinction that has been used for centuries.
To call it ignorant misses the counter productive nature of it. No one like people stretching any words to impute bigotry, not the least when your great minds find fault with existing language in writings long used without controversy.
You are why the right gets play calling things woke. Fox news loves you guys. Do better.
Are you doing that reddit brained dipshit thing where you think that every person replying to you is the same person? The only one with a lot of time on their hands here is you because you are the one continuing the conversation. That reply was from 12 hours ago, and 10 hours later you came back for more!
It’s not my fault the auxiliary PC Brigade has nothing better to do then try to fall asleep claim bigotry without even understanding the point. A point in which you would agree in other contexts. But the PC Brigade never misses the chance to stroke off their outrage boners. That is why everybody hates the PC brigade, and why the word woke gets thrown around it’s a great effect by cynical politicians that are at this moment trying to turn us into an Eastern style autocracy away from our Western liberal democracies.
describing shit like “an eastern style government” is what outs you as being profoundly 1) ignorant and 2) racist
like, when the U.S. supported a police dictatorship in South Korea that did literally every awful thing North Korea has been accused of, including but not limited to “killing people for having the wrong haircut” (the anti- queue shit), is that a EASTERN STYLE government, because it’s a dictatorship led by perfidious asiatics? Or is it a WESTERN STYLE government, since it’s literally a puppet of a western government? (hint, it’s the second one nerd)
like do you even have enough braincells to comprehend what’s fucked up about the fucked up shit you say
Read a book. A history book.
r/neoliberal user talking about “evidence-based policy” when they don’t actually have a firm grasp of even the identity of any of the studies that they take as being the authoritative statements on various subjects.
What history books do you recommend?
What fucking history books are you reading, and were any of them published after the invention of the automobile?
We have, have you?
wow epic comeback nerd, turns out reading books is why i know more than your dumb fucking ass
The ignorant always think they know more, because they never learned enough to know how little they know.
3/4 of this site has read Jakarta Method
What is that?
This is straight up teenage debatelord shit lmao
Keep me here? Motherfucker you’re posting on OUR site. Shut your ass up.
You have a tradition of pederasty and killing indigenous people wtf are you talking about honesty lmao.
We are talking about the structure of government not the sum of the sins of the countries.
one doesn’t account for the other?
Western style governments refer to having elections, a free press, being allowed to criticize the powerful. That is not my terminology by the way, that is hundreds of years of terminology.
The minimum number of years this could be is 200. At that time, 1825, most of Europe was run by monarchies still, with just a couple of hemi-demi-semi-democratic republics and hybrid governments (like England, excluding its colonies, which it ruled over despotically). +1 more for America as another fractionally democratic state. idk, I think if you’re calling those governments totally superior to “Eastern Governments,” you might just be, uh, uncritically parroting racists.
This is again similar to what the system claims vs. what the system produces/actually functions. We do have elections, but we also have like 66% voter turnout and we also have studies indicating massively popular policies never get passed (e.g. universal healthcare, tax billionaires, etc). Free press is debatable. All US mainstream news outlets are owned by the billionaire class, hardly any of them speak pro Palestine positions. Manufacturing Consent does a good job explaining how the US supposedly free press functions to ultimately peddle state department talking points and status quoisms.
Obviously the system has never been perfect and further corrupted from me Glory Days of the post war era however lacking they were,
But we kept elections and freedom of expressio, something eastern governments rarely had going back 2500 years.
And what you say is my fucking point to begin with. They are taking away our governmental structure, and replacing it with an Eastern style one, which is to say an autocracy with no freedom of expression, no freedom of the press, and us at the complete mercy of the Criminal Justice System.
However bad it is now, you better believe it’s going to get a whole lot worse. Unless you guys get your head out of the establishment Democrats’ ass and help get some electable, populist, and aggressive candidates that know how to build and run a political machine.
You’re just finding excuses to take all the credit (and exaggerate it, too) and none of the blame.
Would that be when the country legally segregated black people and functionally barred them from voting? Even moreso than now, I mean.
Also the era where we became a safe harbor for high-ranking Nazis.
The “west” has a history of colonialism and vast destruction of the global south through conquest and death that continues in the spirit of economic domination of third world nations via resource extraction and debt-traps through the IMF. At no point does our “Rich History” matters when all we’ve used it for is to oppress entire nations, classes of people and races of people.
wowza almost like suspected anarchists and communists in the 1920s-1980s under the U.S government!
First of all, Russia has never been considered a western style government they have always had in eastern style government.
Second of all, you are denying there is a difference between countries that elect their leaders, and countries with an all-powerful ruler.
Don’t let your PC auxiliary Brigade cohorts here think you are on to something, it is really too stupid for me to argue against here truly. As such I did not read whatever dribble you wrote.
In case you don’t know all the people accusing you of Nazi level racism and insinuating you should be executed for the levels of Nazi racism you are experiencing here should at least give you pause and make you reflect on your racist remarks.
Otherwise I would not really give two shits if someone splattered your brains over a brick wall.
Wow buddy you are getting pretty emotional. Yes that’s a good point, making a distinction between western style republics and Eastern Style autocracies is… a distinction written in books and Publications for hundreds of years, including our modern era, that nobody has taken issue with until your PC auxiliary Brigade got in on the action here. You are why cynical politicians accuse people of being woke and the voters embrace it. Everybody has been unfairly attacked by a PC group. Luckily I am enlightened so will not affect my political behavior, maybe your time would be better spent helping prevent us from becoming an autocracy instead of denying a difference between what we used to have in this country and across the west, and what we are now becoming.
Literally talk to one person from “the east” and you’ll realize how absurdly wrong you are
holy shit dumbass, you clearly have not spent a single second on this site have you?
Famously, countries in the east have no freedom of expression and no freedom of the press, right? PLEASE understand that you have no idea what you’re talking about. You’re honestly telling me that you buy the propaganda that China, a country with 1.4 billion people, has no freedom of expression and no freedom of the press?
People are calling you a Western Chauvinist because you are spouting shit like this, which JUST SO HAPPENS to also align with the US State Department talking points. Hmm… So maybe you could stop posting and responding for a minute, and have the courage to listen to the comrades here that are telling you you have no clue what the fuck you’re talking about.
That is a lot of words to state that there is no difference between liberal democracies and eastern governments.
Words I did not read.
Since you are resigned to surrender your freedom to the party I do not value your opinion on anything, or your pc reactionaries, everyone hates this shit and I am proud to be in opposition to your faction.
Bernie is a zionist. Is that your populist, aggressive candidate that will stop the genocide in Palestine?
I understand your point and frustration but the impasse we are at here I believe is that the avg hexbear user would claim liberal democracy will ALWAYS trend in this direction. The system is what it does. Sure, I think it’s good to elect strong socialist-adjacent progressives in your local areas to improve the life of working class people, but (someone correct me I’m mistaken) the philosophical position here is that the end result of the system is always fascism and capitalist dictatorship. It will always trend to this conclusion.
The purpose of a system is what it does. You can say it’s freedom and democracy all you want but all I’ve seen out of it is genocide, human trafficking, and money laundering regardless of which of your capitalist parties is in charge.
Not the point. Describing the system of government as being better does not endorse everything that government has done, not the least as it has become the superpower.
Western style governments elect leaders, they have free press, they can criticize their leaders, and so forth. Eastern governments have never had that tradition. Might makes right, you criticize the leader you are in trouble, no honest media exists, and they do not elect leaders in any honest way.
Hahahaha how are you like this lmao
A government that was designed by and to protect slaveowners and genocideers.