You guys got really upset about saying our western style governments are being turned into Eastern Style governments. I guess you are all pretty emotional aren’t you?
It is truly an ignorant argument you are making here though, do not let however many half wits voting with your Half Baked assumption here convince you otherwise.
Dang that Eastern government of China for having a higher home ownership rate, higher protein intake and lower homeless rate! We’re totally turning into one of those guys!!!
What a fucking buffoon. “emotionally” we are laughing at you.
Well that’s good for you, you will enjoy our new system then! Just watch your social score! The term eastern and western governments is more traditionally used in regards to the liberal democracies of the west, from the Greeks and Romans to the enlightenment era representative governments, as opposed to the all powerful rulers of egypt, the persians, the Ottoman empire, and russia. But don’t let me teach you anything.
Greeks and Romans to the enlightenment era representative governments
Slave society, slave society, slave society, and the Eastern/Western dichotomy laid out in the centuries-old political literature that you uphold in such high esteem was established by race science-touting imperialists and other chauvinists
You’re not talking about what esteem we hold the government’s in, or they’re assorted ills. We are talking about the structure of government, being representative, or being autocratic. You can say but those representative governments were mean! No shit? That is not what is an issue here. You could discount any event from history with the logic you are trying to use here.
I have to watch my credit score to own a house, have an apartment, get a decent rate on car insurance and live a normal life. Already have to do that, chucklefuck.
“from the Greeks and Romans to the enlightenment era representative governments”
Whom were savages and equally capable of violence on those deemed “barbarians” or lesser. The Romans and Greeks taught up some important things; but they show us nothing to take from example in a socialist governance. Drop the “TRVTH WEST” bullshit because most of here want to see the West completely destroyed!
At least the Ottoman and Persian shahdoms during the 800s-1400s provided us the Golden Age of Islam which propelled and powered the renaissance. Oh, and most of the European renaissance came from Byzantine scholars whom had preserved and kept the classics of the Greeks fleeing the fall of Constantinople towards Italy. Can you guess what these glorious, enlightened and catholic nations did to the Byzantines during the siege?
You do know history, you say. Why is that history paints such a dark, grim picture of Europe?
You do not realize.or care they are doing the same with palantir now, to be used in secret in biz and gov against us.
Since you already accept democracy such as it is still, being replaced with an eastern style autocracy ala russia it should be an easy transition for you, until you cannot pay your bills at least, after they take breakfast and dinner from you and not just lunch.
It will give you something to think about during your 6-12 work week, 6 days a week 12 hours a day for starvation wages.
It will give you something to think about during your 6-12 work week, 6 days a week 12 hours a day for starvation wages.
Migrants think about providing a better life like this for their family as the U.S intervenes, destroys and annihilates any nascent leftist movement or anti-imperialist movement in Latin America. With over 100 interventions to boot, there’s plenty of migrants to fulfill that role in the governance of the west while a comfortable, captured proletariat and their ruling class suck up the wages and resources from the global south.
until you cannot pay your bills at least, after they take breakfast and dinner from you and not just lunch.
Well, funny enough, I had that in glorious America. I didn’t have a washing machine, hot water, a microwave or oven, proper housing and grew up inside of a demunincipalized slum. You think I got regular breakfast and dinner? Haha. Sorta, until they cut food stamps and social services further and my family didn’t apply anymore.
People in “horrible eastern-style autocracies” had more than me and hundreds of other people in the neighborhood I grew up in. Weird how that works, huh?
What does that have to do with the West having their representative governments replaced with autocracies?
In case you are unaware by the way, plenty of people go without here. We have been getting squeezed for 50 years and we are now at the point where a full-time job does not pay for life for a larger number of people.
And I bet if you need to see a doctor you would not be forced to pay 10 times what everybody else in the world pays and a hundred times for a drug.
The victims of the United States government includes United States citizens.
The war on poverty of Linden B Johnson turned into a war against those in poverty. Their own undesirables. A rank that will grow and grow in numbers in time.
To reiterate, I did not originally say anything wrong, and to refer to Eastern governments principally refers to the near East and Middle East. But it also does apply to China.
What does that have to do with the West having their representative governments replaced with autocracies?
Because most of us believe that they are already autocracies; not of divine might or of stereotypical dictator-fashion but of a dictatorship of capital. Where your worth is determined by how much value you can generate for a middleman that controls the means of productions. Where constant warfare is waged against the poor on the basis of race, nation or creed by the ruling capitalist class that puts the majority of the world in abysmal poverty while the West gets to live out it’s façade of elections held together by imperial extraction and exploitation of the global south. I mean an actual façade of electoral districts state-side and local politics completely marred by racial divide, segregation, gerrymandering and religious dogma.
The original constitution of the United States existed to serve and protect landowners, slaveholders and the merchant-class that was the foundation of the republics at the time. Your ability to vote was based on how much land you own, to which moved onto racial strife as a dominating factor as the transition from agrarian to plantation-industrialized economy. There was never the workers, the industrial revolution in mind. The workers are what exists these days and the representative governments of the west have never existed to protect them or their right of speech but their right to exploit and create capital.
The government structure of your imagined “East” no matter how repressive in your imagination, is still a vast improvement over racially stratified free market economies that depend on vast plunder AND exploitation of the global south. That’s really the honest cut of it.
You are so hip with your dog references there buddy. But pal I must tell you, we have 5-8 work weeks, and anything over that is time and a half. Because unions.
Because your grandfather’s, instead of manufacturing politically correct in fractions to attack people on, organized and fought to get a fair share of economic output for their labor.
How can you simultaneously say “unions fought and died for your rights and we need to keep up the fight” while also being mad at leftists on the internet? I’m starting to think you have no coherent ideology.
(Also there is way too broad a category of “exempt” worker to say amerikkka has 40 hr weeks with time and a half overtime)
You are so hip with your dog references there buddy. But pal I must tell you, we have 5-8 work weeks, and anything over that is time and a half. Because unions.
Despite being ruled “unconstitutional” these were just more of the flagrant attempts at legislating anti-communism legally. Taft-Hartley was active for a while as well. We all know how “strong” the Supreme Court is these days anyways :)
Union membership is the lowest it’s ever been and minimum wage hasn’t been raised in 16 years. We are not, in fact, getting a fair share of the economic output for our labor, and we never have, because capitalists have been stealing our surplus value since day 1.
Maybe if we had enough of them and they were powerful enough to actually take charge things would be okay for more than just the highly privileged. Maybe even without the extreme exploitation of the global south.
We could call it a union of unions. A Soviet union so to speak. Or would that be too eastern for you?
I can’t tell you enough how much saying this phrase is like extreme repellent to any woman who isn’t white. Like this is cartoonishly racist and nasty.
You do realize this is terminology used in books for hundreds of years including our modern era, terminology nobody has taken issue with until you guys here right now. The auxiliary PC Brigade. You guys are the reason the right calls everybody woke and people support their bullshit.
It would be governmentist, bigoted against eastern style autocracies in favor of representative government, which as your group does not know what that means, it means electing leaders, having a free press, and being able to criticize people like your leaders and so forth. Eastern Style governments for thousands of years have referred to everything from Egypt to the Ottoman Empire to the Persians, a single all-powerful ruler.
But it is good for your own mental health that you do not support representative government because it is now being taken away from you, and you are going to criticize anybody that mentions it apparently. Nice contribution.
Says the person with your username. Ha ha ha. Ok pal. Such a brave PC Warrior, how dare somebody reference the difference between Western representative governments and Eastern autocracies! It can’t be allowed. Luckily they are turning us into an Eastern style autocracy so enjoy! No don’t bother trying to help stop it, take any excuse you can to try to get the offended on behalf of other people to get your outrage boner off. Like I said, everybody hates the overly PC. Everybody.
I’m in the former camp personally, they haven’t devolved into strings of slurs no one uses anymore like a boomer would. Strikes me more as a kid who is very poorly socialised and watches too many “SJW owned” compilations on youtube and thinks that’s how the world actually works.
Why are they called “western” and “eastern” style, what immutable characteristic are you assigning to these two groups? Answer without any redditisms for bonus points
Western style governments elect their leaders, they have the Free Press, and they are allowed to criticize their leaders and companies. Something that does not and has not ever existed in the East to any large degree.
They are taking that away from us right now and you are spending your energy attacking me because it’s popular for you. Might be why we are losing. We being those that do not want to live under a supreme leader.
Saying this right after ranting about the “weakness of our political leaders” is incredible lol
You guys got really upset about saying our western style governments are being turned into Eastern Style governments. I guess you are all pretty emotional aren’t you?
It is truly an ignorant argument you are making here though, do not let however many half wits voting with your Half Baked assumption here convince you otherwise.
Dang that Eastern government of China for having a higher home ownership rate, higher protein intake and lower homeless rate! We’re totally turning into one of those guys!!!
What a fucking buffoon. “emotionally” we are laughing at you.
Well that’s good for you, you will enjoy our new system then! Just watch your social score! The term eastern and western governments is more traditionally used in regards to the liberal democracies of the west, from the Greeks and Romans to the enlightenment era representative governments, as opposed to the all powerful rulers of egypt, the persians, the Ottoman empire, and russia. But don’t let me teach you anything.
Slave society, slave society, slave society, and the Eastern/Western dichotomy laid out in the centuries-old political literature that you uphold in such high esteem was established by race science-touting imperialists and other chauvinists
You’re not talking about what esteem we hold the government’s in, or they’re assorted ills. We are talking about the structure of government, being representative, or being autocratic. You can say but those representative governments were mean! No shit? That is not what is an issue here. You could discount any event from history with the logic you are trying to use here.
I have to watch my credit score to own a house, have an apartment, get a decent rate on car insurance and live a normal life. Already have to do that, chucklefuck.
“from the Greeks and Romans to the enlightenment era representative governments”
Whom were savages and equally capable of violence on those deemed “barbarians” or lesser. The Romans and Greeks taught up some important things; but they show us nothing to take from example in a socialist governance. Drop the “TRVTH WEST” bullshit because most of here want to see the West completely destroyed!
At least the Ottoman and Persian shahdoms during the 800s-1400s provided us the Golden Age of Islam which propelled and powered the renaissance. Oh, and most of the European renaissance came from Byzantine scholars whom had preserved and kept the classics of the Greeks fleeing the fall of Constantinople towards Italy. Can you guess what these glorious, enlightened and catholic nations did to the Byzantines during the siege?
You do know history, you say. Why is that history paints such a dark, grim picture of Europe?
Have you checked your fucking credit score recently? It’s a good thing the fucking
CREDIT SCORE
doesn’t dictate
ANY FACIT OF HUMAN EXISTANCE IN AMERICA
I think this lad is too young to have a credit score, or even know what it actually is.
You do not realize.or care they are doing the same with palantir now, to be used in secret in biz and gov against us.
Since you already accept democracy such as it is still, being replaced with an eastern style autocracy ala russia it should be an easy transition for you, until you cannot pay your bills at least, after they take breakfast and dinner from you and not just lunch.
It will give you something to think about during your 6-12 work week, 6 days a week 12 hours a day for starvation wages.
Migrants think about providing a better life like this for their family as the U.S intervenes, destroys and annihilates any nascent leftist movement or anti-imperialist movement in Latin America. With over 100 interventions to boot, there’s plenty of migrants to fulfill that role in the governance of the west while a comfortable, captured proletariat and their ruling class suck up the wages and resources from the global south.
Well, funny enough, I had that in glorious America. I didn’t have a washing machine, hot water, a microwave or oven, proper housing and grew up inside of a demunincipalized slum. You think I got regular breakfast and dinner? Haha. Sorta, until they cut food stamps and social services further and my family didn’t apply anymore.
People in “horrible eastern-style autocracies” had more than me and hundreds of other people in the neighborhood I grew up in. Weird how that works, huh?
What does that have to do with the West having their representative governments replaced with autocracies?
In case you are unaware by the way, plenty of people go without here. We have been getting squeezed for 50 years and we are now at the point where a full-time job does not pay for life for a larger number of people.
And I bet if you need to see a doctor you would not be forced to pay 10 times what everybody else in the world pays and a hundred times for a drug.
The victims of the United States government includes United States citizens.
The war on poverty of Linden B Johnson turned into a war against those in poverty. Their own undesirables. A rank that will grow and grow in numbers in time.
To reiterate, I did not originally say anything wrong, and to refer to Eastern governments principally refers to the near East and Middle East. But it also does apply to China.
Because most of us believe that they are already autocracies; not of divine might or of stereotypical dictator-fashion but of a dictatorship of capital. Where your worth is determined by how much value you can generate for a middleman that controls the means of productions. Where constant warfare is waged against the poor on the basis of race, nation or creed by the ruling capitalist class that puts the majority of the world in abysmal poverty while the West gets to live out it’s façade of elections held together by imperial extraction and exploitation of the global south. I mean an actual façade of electoral districts state-side and local politics completely marred by racial divide, segregation, gerrymandering and religious dogma.
The original constitution of the United States existed to serve and protect landowners, slaveholders and the merchant-class that was the foundation of the republics at the time. Your ability to vote was based on how much land you own, to which moved onto racial strife as a dominating factor as the transition from agrarian to plantation-industrialized economy. There was never the workers, the industrial revolution in mind. The workers are what exists these days and the representative governments of the west have never existed to protect them or their right of speech but their right to exploit and create capital.
The government structure of your imagined “East” no matter how repressive in your imagination, is still a vast improvement over racially stratified free market economies that depend on vast plunder AND exploitation of the global south. That’s really the honest cut of it.
Dawg we literally have that in the US.
You are so hip with your dog references there buddy. But pal I must tell you, we have 5-8 work weeks, and anything over that is time and a half. Because unions.
Because your grandfather’s, instead of manufacturing politically correct in fractions to attack people on, organized and fought to get a fair share of economic output for their labor.
How can you simultaneously say “unions fought and died for your rights and we need to keep up the fight” while also being mad at leftists on the internet? I’m starting to think you have no coherent ideology.
(Also there is way too broad a category of “exempt” worker to say amerikkka has 40 hr weeks with time and a half overtime)
Wait, I think I remember you talking about freedom of expression. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taft–Hartley_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Control_Act_of_1954
Despite being ruled “unconstitutional” these were just more of the flagrant attempts at legislating anti-communism legally. Taft-Hartley was active for a while as well. We all know how “strong” the Supreme Court is these days anyways :)
Union membership is the lowest it’s ever been and minimum wage hasn’t been raised in 16 years. We are not, in fact, getting a fair share of the economic output for our labor, and we never have, because capitalists have been stealing our surplus value since day 1.
Maybe if we had enough of them and they were powerful enough to actually take charge things would be okay for more than just the highly privileged. Maybe even without the extreme exploitation of the global south.
We could call it a union of unions. A Soviet union so to speak. Or would that be too eastern for you?
hey state department, come pick up your guy he’s getting tired
Lol!
aw shucks, I was so eager to learn from a literal toddler’s understanding of the world
Holy shit, did you step out of a time warp from 2014 Reddit?
Some folks just stop growing and, in some cases, actually start shrinking.
I can’t tell you enough how much saying this phrase is like extreme repellent to any woman who isn’t white. Like this is cartoonishly racist and nasty.
You do realize this is terminology used in books for hundreds of years including our modern era, terminology nobody has taken issue with until you guys here right now. The auxiliary PC Brigade. You guys are the reason the right calls everybody woke and people support their bullshit.
It would be governmentist, bigoted against eastern style autocracies in favor of representative government, which as your group does not know what that means, it means electing leaders, having a free press, and being able to criticize people like your leaders and so forth. Eastern Style governments for thousands of years have referred to everything from Egypt to the Ottoman Empire to the Persians, a single all-powerful ruler.
But it is good for your own mental health that you do not support representative government because it is now being taken away from you, and you are going to criticize anybody that mentions it apparently. Nice contribution.
In your mind, why do you imagine that anyone would be making fun of you for this?
Says the person with your username. Ha ha ha. Ok pal. Such a brave PC Warrior, how dare somebody reference the difference between Western representative governments and Eastern autocracies! It can’t be allowed. Luckily they are turning us into an Eastern style autocracy so enjoy! No don’t bother trying to help stop it, take any excuse you can to try to get the offended on behalf of other people to get your outrage boner off. Like I said, everybody hates the overly PC. Everybody.
Are you 16 or 60? Genuinely hard to tell. Leaning towards the latter
I’m in the former camp personally, they haven’t devolved into strings of slurs no one uses anymore like a boomer would. Strikes me more as a kid who is very poorly socialised and watches too many “SJW owned” compilations on youtube and thinks that’s how the world actually works.
Why are they called “western” and “eastern” style, what immutable characteristic are you assigning to these two groups? Answer without any redditisms for bonus points
Western style governments elect their leaders, they have the Free Press, and they are allowed to criticize their leaders and companies. Something that does not and has not ever existed in the East to any large degree.
They are taking that away from us right now and you are spending your energy attacking me because it’s popular for you. Might be why we are losing. We being those that do not want to live under a supreme leader.
lol
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lmao
The fuck is this then?
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
oh fuck guys i just thought of something, are we seeing the first graduating class of that Austin Texas debatelord college?
I am dying to know why you have “half baked” capitalized here lmao
Must be a big Ben and Jerry’s fan.