We have a tradition of representative government and more honest leadership. Trying to get offended on behalf of people that live under despotic governments elsewhere is the reason why everybody hates the politically correct.
representative governance is when you rig electoral district maps to avoid populations of people with a certain race and honest leadership is when you have a a pedophiles on both sides of the political aisle.
No, the west does not have any such tradition. Further, I think you’re a bit confused if you think a bunch of commies are considered “politically correct,” unless you just mean that we aren’t racist.
This is a bunch of kindergarten- level mythology about the shining city on a hill that is equal parts laughable and disgusting to anyone who has been paying attention for any length of time.
You guys got really upset about saying our western style governments are being turned into Eastern Style governments. I guess you are all pretty emotional aren’t you?
It is truly an ignorant argument you are making here though, do not let however many half wits voting with your Half Baked assumption here convince you otherwise.
Dang that Eastern government of China for having a higher home ownership rate, higher protein intake and lower homeless rate! We’re totally turning into one of those guys!!!
What a fucking buffoon. “emotionally” we are laughing at you.
Well that’s good for you, you will enjoy our new system then! Just watch your social score! The term eastern and western governments is more traditionally used in regards to the liberal democracies of the west, from the Greeks and Romans to the enlightenment era representative governments, as opposed to the all powerful rulers of egypt, the persians, the Ottoman empire, and russia. But don’t let me teach you anything.
Greeks and Romans to the enlightenment era representative governments
Slave society, slave society, slave society, and the Eastern/Western dichotomy laid out in the centuries-old political literature that you uphold in such high esteem was established by race science-touting imperialists and other chauvinists
I have to watch my credit score to own a house, have an apartment, get a decent rate on car insurance and live a normal life. Already have to do that, chucklefuck.
“from the Greeks and Romans to the enlightenment era representative governments”
Whom were savages and equally capable of violence on those deemed “barbarians” or lesser. The Romans and Greeks taught up some important things; but they show us nothing to take from example in a socialist governance. Drop the “TRVTH WEST” bullshit because most of here want to see the West completely destroyed!
At least the Ottoman and Persian shahdoms during the 800s-1400s provided us the Golden Age of Islam which propelled and powered the renaissance. Oh, and most of the European renaissance came from Byzantine scholars whom had preserved and kept the classics of the Greeks fleeing the fall of Constantinople towards Italy. Can you guess what these glorious, enlightened and catholic nations did to the Byzantines during the siege?
You do know history, you say. Why is that history paints such a dark, grim picture of Europe?
I can’t tell you enough how much saying this phrase is like extreme repellent to any woman who isn’t white. Like this is cartoonishly racist and nasty.
You do realize this is terminology used in books for hundreds of years including our modern era, terminology nobody has taken issue with until you guys here right now. The auxiliary PC Brigade. You guys are the reason the right calls everybody woke and people support their bullshit.
It would be governmentist, bigoted against eastern style autocracies in favor of representative government, which as your group does not know what that means, it means electing leaders, having a free press, and being able to criticize people like your leaders and so forth. Eastern Style governments for thousands of years have referred to everything from Egypt to the Ottoman Empire to the Persians, a single all-powerful ruler.
But it is good for your own mental health that you do not support representative government because it is now being taken away from you, and you are going to criticize anybody that mentions it apparently. Nice contribution.
Why are they called “western” and “eastern” style, what immutable characteristic are you assigning to these two groups? Answer without any redditisms for bonus points
Western style governments elect their leaders, they have the Free Press, and they are allowed to criticize their leaders and companies. Something that does not and has not ever existed in the East to any large degree.
They are taking that away from us right now and you are spending your energy attacking me because it’s popular for you. Might be why we are losing. We being those that do not want to live under a supreme leader.
No, because I did not see anything wrong and I welcome the app probation of those seeking to get offended on behalf of other people without good cause. Nobody likes those people. The Republicans make a lot of hay out of you people by the way.
Maybe if you read more history you would realize what I was actually saying.
Remember back in the 1950s when Iran tried to do cultural appropriation of the West by electing a prime minister? Obviously the US had to overthrow them and set up the Shah as a puppet, returning the country to its rightful place as an “Eastern government”.
You are talking about the actions of governments, I’m talking about the style of governments. All governments do shitty things not the least the Western Colonial powers that tried to subjugate the entire world.
What is an issue here is having honest elections and being allowed to speak our minds and protest and such.
Have fun in your Eastern style government in the US here pal. They love the woke pc brigades. But you will be working 6 days a week 12 hours a day until you are replaced by machines and eliminated so you know.
You can barely spell, yet you’re talking to us about history. If you knew anything about “eastern vs western” governance you’d realize that lumping the middle-east with Asia completely ignores the history of exchange and development they have shared with each other as well as the majority of nations in one sphere being subjugated by Western exploitation and capital while the other maintains it’s sovereignty through economic domination of the West with equal levels of military detterence.
The only thing you’ve learned from history is pathetic chauvinism and a sense of patriotism for a government of pedophiles.
Amerikkkans are so brainwashed they don’t even recognize how brainwashed they are.
It’s precisely because you read only state department approved history that you think this way. Do you think Saddam was killing Kuwaiti babies in incubators? Do you believe Assad was using chemical weapons? What about Libya, did Gaddafi have WMDs too?
That is quite a jump from describing a Western Government turning into an Eastern Style government.
You do realize those trying to turn our representative governments into an.Eastern Style autocracy are the same ones that told us all of those things you just mentioned?
In case you didn’t notice our leaders project. Criticizing China for their iliberality as they try to do the same here.
You are extremely incoherent and have no actual ideology except west good east bad. Not even sure what to say to this belief system where your Western governments are simultaneously trying to turn into autocracy yet ontologically good because they’re the not the east? What the fuck.
Wait is this some arch liberal thinking where if the Democrats do imperialism and genocide it’s bringing the light of civilization to the world but if the Republicans are doing it then it becomes autocratic despotism? It would make a lot more sense if you were blue Maga tbh.
describing shit like “an eastern style government” is what outs you as being profoundly 1) ignorant and 2) racist
like, when the U.S. supported a police dictatorship in South Korea that did literally every awful thing North Korea has been accused of, including but not limited to “killing people for having the wrong haircut” (the anti- queue shit), is that a EASTERN STYLE government, because it’s a dictatorship led by perfidious asiatics? Or is it a WESTERN STYLE government, since it’s literally a puppet of a western government? (hint, it’s the second one nerd)
like do you even have enough braincells to comprehend what’s fucked up about the fucked up shit you say
Western style governments refer to having elections, a free press, being allowed to criticize the powerful. That is not my terminology by the way, that is hundreds of years of terminology.
That is not my terminology by the way, that is hundreds of years of terminology.
The minimum number of years this could be is 200. At that time, 1825, most of Europe was run by monarchies still, with just a couple of hemi-demi-semi-democratic republics and hybrid governments (like England, excluding its colonies, which it ruled over despotically). +1 more for America as another fractionally democratic state. idk, I think if you’re calling those governments totally superior to “Eastern Governments,” you might just be, uh, uncritically parroting racists.
This is again similar to what the system claims vs. what the system produces/actually functions. We do have elections, but we also have like 66% voter turnout and we also have studies indicating massively popular policies never get passed (e.g. universal healthcare, tax billionaires, etc). Free press is debatable. All US mainstream news outlets are owned by the billionaire class, hardly any of them speak pro Palestine positions. Manufacturing Consent does a good job explaining how the US supposedly free press functions to ultimately peddle state department talking points and status quoisms.
The purpose of a system is what it does. You can say it’s freedom and democracy all you want but all I’ve seen out of it is genocide, human trafficking, and money laundering regardless of which of your capitalist parties is in charge.
Not the point. Describing the system of government as being better does not endorse everything that government has done, not the least as it has become the superpower.
Western style governments elect leaders, they have free press, they can criticize their leaders, and so forth. Eastern governments have never had that tradition. Might makes right, you criticize the leader you are in trouble, no honest media exists, and they do not elect leaders in any honest way.
The citizens of West Asia are not “obedient slaves” you dumb crayon eating cracker, they’re suppressed by a dozen American backed tyrannies, gunned down with American and Israeli guns and tortured on masse in CIA run blacksites and monarchial dungeons
The military will obey the capitalist state and gun your people down too the minute they get the green light
wait, are you saying that “CIA” is in all caps because of emotional invective? a real pedant would have brought up “en masse”, smh. make sure to watch this to the end
I said trying to turn us into. And then trying to turn us into an Eastern style government. Because Eastern governments have never had representative government. Two different points, but don’t you have somebody to accuse of cultural appropriation?
Not electing their leaders. You see, representative government refers to having elections to choose your leaders. Something the West has had, and the East has not. You guys really are not worth responding to at this point. You have an outrage boner based on reading my post wrong. Which is not surprising for somebody on the meme group to not know the definitions of government, or the historical definitions of Eastern and Western governments.
China, the largest country in the world and part of “the east” has their president elected by a series of local representatives who are directly elected in local elections. Chinese democracy is and has been far more robust than anything in what you consider “the west” (which conveniently discounts the existence of Cuba lmao)
We’re laughing at you because it’s obvious you have no idea what the fuck you’re talking about and you’re just regurgitating the same boring ass CIA propaganda we’ve heard and debunked a million times.
Which is not surprising for somebody on the meme group to not know the definitions of government, or the historical definitions of Eastern and Western governments.
WHAT ARE WE, A BUNCH OF ASIANS? face the wall
Eastern governments are traditionally describing the near east and middle east. Or egypt. Where the leader is decreed god himself with absolute power.
WHAT ARE WE, A BUNCH OF MIDDLE EASTERNERS dawg the wall is waiting
We have a tradition of representative government and more honest leadership. Trying to get offended on behalf of people that live under despotic governments elsewhere is the reason why everybody hates the politically correct.
representative governance is when you rig electoral district maps to avoid populations of people with a certain race and honest leadership is when you have a a pedophiles on both sides of the political aisle.
No, the west does not have any such tradition. Further, I think you’re a bit confused if you think a bunch of commies are considered “politically correct,” unless you just mean that we aren’t racist.
Pretty sure it’s the latter.
Yep, I think you’re right.
Time to whip out that massive hog of yours.
This is a bunch of kindergarten- level mythology about the shining city on a hill that is equal parts laughable and disgusting to anyone who has been paying attention for any length of time.
you have to be the dumbest person alive
no the fuck we don’t lmao
i really didn’t think my shitposts would have you dig such a grave for yourself but here we are, lol, lmao even
Saying this right after ranting about the “weakness of our political leaders” is incredible lol
You guys got really upset about saying our western style governments are being turned into Eastern Style governments. I guess you are all pretty emotional aren’t you?
It is truly an ignorant argument you are making here though, do not let however many half wits voting with your Half Baked assumption here convince you otherwise.
Dang that Eastern government of China for having a higher home ownership rate, higher protein intake and lower homeless rate! We’re totally turning into one of those guys!!!
What a fucking buffoon. “emotionally” we are laughing at you.
Well that’s good for you, you will enjoy our new system then! Just watch your social score! The term eastern and western governments is more traditionally used in regards to the liberal democracies of the west, from the Greeks and Romans to the enlightenment era representative governments, as opposed to the all powerful rulers of egypt, the persians, the Ottoman empire, and russia. But don’t let me teach you anything.
Slave society, slave society, slave society, and the Eastern/Western dichotomy laid out in the centuries-old political literature that you uphold in such high esteem was established by race science-touting imperialists and other chauvinists
I have to watch my credit score to own a house, have an apartment, get a decent rate on car insurance and live a normal life. Already have to do that, chucklefuck.
“from the Greeks and Romans to the enlightenment era representative governments”
Whom were savages and equally capable of violence on those deemed “barbarians” or lesser. The Romans and Greeks taught up some important things; but they show us nothing to take from example in a socialist governance. Drop the “TRVTH WEST” bullshit because most of here want to see the West completely destroyed!
At least the Ottoman and Persian shahdoms during the 800s-1400s provided us the Golden Age of Islam which propelled and powered the renaissance. Oh, and most of the European renaissance came from Byzantine scholars whom had preserved and kept the classics of the Greeks fleeing the fall of Constantinople towards Italy. Can you guess what these glorious, enlightened and catholic nations did to the Byzantines during the siege?
You do know history, you say. Why is that history paints such a dark, grim picture of Europe?
Have you checked your fucking credit score recently? It’s a good thing the fucking
CREDIT SCORE
doesn’t dictate
ANY FACIT OF HUMAN EXISTANCE IN AMERICA
aw shucks, I was so eager to learn from a literal toddler’s understanding of the world
Holy shit, did you step out of a time warp from 2014 Reddit?
Some folks just stop growing and, in some cases, actually start shrinking.
I can’t tell you enough how much saying this phrase is like extreme repellent to any woman who isn’t white. Like this is cartoonishly racist and nasty.
You do realize this is terminology used in books for hundreds of years including our modern era, terminology nobody has taken issue with until you guys here right now. The auxiliary PC Brigade. You guys are the reason the right calls everybody woke and people support their bullshit.
It would be governmentist, bigoted against eastern style autocracies in favor of representative government, which as your group does not know what that means, it means electing leaders, having a free press, and being able to criticize people like your leaders and so forth. Eastern Style governments for thousands of years have referred to everything from Egypt to the Ottoman Empire to the Persians, a single all-powerful ruler.
But it is good for your own mental health that you do not support representative government because it is now being taken away from you, and you are going to criticize anybody that mentions it apparently. Nice contribution.
In your mind, why do you imagine that anyone would be making fun of you for this?
Why are they called “western” and “eastern” style, what immutable characteristic are you assigning to these two groups? Answer without any redditisms for bonus points
Western style governments elect their leaders, they have the Free Press, and they are allowed to criticize their leaders and companies. Something that does not and has not ever existed in the East to any large degree.
They are taking that away from us right now and you are spending your energy attacking me because it’s popular for you. Might be why we are losing. We being those that do not want to live under a supreme leader.
lol
lol
lmao
The fuck is this then?
oh fuck guys i just thought of something, are we seeing the first graduating class of that Austin Texas debatelord college?
I am dying to know why you have “half baked” capitalized here lmao
Must be a big Ben and Jerry’s fan.
Take the L homie, leaving this up for dunks
No, because I did not see anything wrong and I welcome the app probation of those seeking to get offended on behalf of other people without good cause. Nobody likes those people. The Republicans make a lot of hay out of you people by the way.
Maybe if you read more history you would realize what I was actually saying.
Remember back in the 1950s when Iran tried to do cultural appropriation of the West by electing a prime minister? Obviously the US had to overthrow them and set up the Shah as a puppet, returning the country to its rightful place as an “Eastern government”.
You are talking about the actions of governments, I’m talking about the style of governments. All governments do shitty things not the least the Western Colonial powers that tried to subjugate the entire world.
What is an issue here is having honest elections and being allowed to speak our minds and protest and such.
Have fun in your Eastern style government in the US here pal. They love the woke pc brigades. But you will be working 6 days a week 12 hours a day until you are replaced by machines and eliminated so you know.
I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make here. That I wouldn’t like living under a certain type of government that you made up?
You can barely spell, yet you’re talking to us about history. If you knew anything about “eastern vs western” governance you’d realize that lumping the middle-east with Asia completely ignores the history of exchange and development they have shared with each other as well as the majority of nations in one sphere being subjugated by Western exploitation and capital while the other maintains it’s sovereignty through economic domination of the West with equal levels of military detterence.
The only thing you’ve learned from history is pathetic chauvinism and a sense of patriotism for a government of pedophiles.
when the Play Store hasn’t approved your new update yet
When Mom says you need to put down the iPad and eat dinner.
All my microtransactions gone!
Homie, we are the well-read ones here.
Amerikkkans are so brainwashed they don’t even recognize how brainwashed they are.
It’s precisely because you read only state department approved history that you think this way. Do you think Saddam was killing Kuwaiti babies in incubators? Do you believe Assad was using chemical weapons? What about Libya, did Gaddafi have WMDs too?
That is quite a jump from describing a Western Government turning into an Eastern Style government.
You do realize those trying to turn our representative governments into an.Eastern Style autocracy are the same ones that told us all of those things you just mentioned?
In case you didn’t notice our leaders project. Criticizing China for their iliberality as they try to do the same here.
You are extremely incoherent and have no actual ideology except west good east bad. Not even sure what to say to this belief system where your Western governments are simultaneously trying to turn into autocracy yet ontologically good because they’re the not the east? What the fuck.
Wait is this some arch liberal thinking where if the Democrats do imperialism and genocide it’s bringing the light of civilization to the world but if the Republicans are doing it then it becomes autocratic despotism? It would make a lot more sense if you were blue Maga tbh.
WHTA ARE WR A BIT NCH OF ASIANS
I do realize what you are actually saying and the fact you can’t fathom you are being racist as shit is why we hate fucking liberals.
Well it would be governmentist not racist.
And it is true that I am biased against autocratic governments ruled by despots.
But do not let me keep you here, don’t you have somebody to accuse of cultural appropriation?
“When I said hip-hop is worse for the black community than the Klan, that wasn’t racist, because I was talking about a music genre. It’s genre-ist.”
incredible brain you have there, please never stop posting lmao
no, we’re more than happy to spend our time on continuing to correctly identify you as an uneducated and deeply unserious dipshit
describing shit like “an eastern style government” is what outs you as being profoundly 1) ignorant and 2) racist
like, when the U.S. supported a police dictatorship in South Korea that did literally every awful thing North Korea has been accused of, including but not limited to “killing people for having the wrong haircut” (the anti- queue shit), is that a EASTERN STYLE government, because it’s a dictatorship led by perfidious asiatics? Or is it a WESTERN STYLE government, since it’s literally a puppet of a western government? (hint, it’s the second one nerd)
like do you even have enough braincells to comprehend what’s fucked up about the fucked up shit you say
This is straight up teenage debatelord shit lmao
Keep me here? Motherfucker you’re posting on OUR site. Shut your ass up.
You have a tradition of pederasty and killing indigenous people wtf are you talking about honesty lmao.
We are talking about the structure of government not the sum of the sins of the countries.
one doesn’t account for the other?
Western style governments refer to having elections, a free press, being allowed to criticize the powerful. That is not my terminology by the way, that is hundreds of years of terminology.
The minimum number of years this could be is 200. At that time, 1825, most of Europe was run by monarchies still, with just a couple of hemi-demi-semi-democratic republics and hybrid governments (like England, excluding its colonies, which it ruled over despotically). +1 more for America as another fractionally democratic state. idk, I think if you’re calling those governments totally superior to “Eastern Governments,” you might just be, uh, uncritically parroting racists.
This is again similar to what the system claims vs. what the system produces/actually functions. We do have elections, but we also have like 66% voter turnout and we also have studies indicating massively popular policies never get passed (e.g. universal healthcare, tax billionaires, etc). Free press is debatable. All US mainstream news outlets are owned by the billionaire class, hardly any of them speak pro Palestine positions. Manufacturing Consent does a good job explaining how the US supposedly free press functions to ultimately peddle state department talking points and status quoisms.
The purpose of a system is what it does. You can say it’s freedom and democracy all you want but all I’ve seen out of it is genocide, human trafficking, and money laundering regardless of which of your capitalist parties is in charge.
Not the point. Describing the system of government as being better does not endorse everything that government has done, not the least as it has become the superpower.
Western style governments elect leaders, they have free press, they can criticize their leaders, and so forth. Eastern governments have never had that tradition. Might makes right, you criticize the leader you are in trouble, no honest media exists, and they do not elect leaders in any honest way.
Hahahaha how are you like this lmao
A government that was designed by and to protect slaveowners and genocideers.
The citizens of West Asia are not “obedient slaves” you dumb crayon eating cracker, they’re suppressed by a dozen American backed tyrannies, gunned down with American and Israeli guns and tortured on masse in CIA run blacksites and monarchial dungeons
The military will obey the capitalist state and gun your people down too the minute they get the green light
Also all caps? You are an emotional guy.
Do you not know what the :cia: is? Really? How are you this fucking clueless?
Are you seriously doing the twenty year old “U mad!” thing because you didn’t know CIA is an acronym?
Looks like my intuition in calling you a crayon eater was right on the mark
wait, are you saying that “CIA” is in all caps because of emotional invective? a real pedant would have brought up “en masse”, smh. make sure to watch this to the end
The suspense is killing me lol I’ve seen this a hundred times but I still love this video! Definitely watch to the end and everything will make sense!
I said trying to turn us into. And then trying to turn us into an Eastern style government. Because Eastern governments have never had representative government. Two different points, but don’t you have somebody to accuse of cultural appropriation?
Aren’t you supposed to be watching bill maher right now to learn more of these sick burns for us?
Dawg this is so funny please keep posting
twice in 5 minutes, they’re proud of that line lmfao
Damn I missed it the first time lmao but in my defense I was in the middle of a heated takedown of a white boy wearing a sombrero at the dog park
It was to me lmao
What makes Eastern governments non-representative?
Not electing their leaders. You see, representative government refers to having elections to choose your leaders. Something the West has had, and the East has not. You guys really are not worth responding to at this point. You have an outrage boner based on reading my post wrong. Which is not surprising for somebody on the meme group to not know the definitions of government, or the historical definitions of Eastern and Western governments.
China, the largest country in the world and part of “the east” has their president elected by a series of local representatives who are directly elected in local elections. Chinese democracy is and has been far more robust than anything in what you consider “the west” (which conveniently discounts the existence of Cuba lmao)
We’re laughing at you because it’s obvious you have no idea what the fuck you’re talking about and you’re just regurgitating the same boring ass CIA propaganda we’ve heard and debunked a million times.
lmfao please keep going.