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    Industry Americus

    Octavian George

    Torsten Savage

    Titan Invictus

    These parents weren’t stuffed in lockers enough as kids

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    Titan Invictus, Simone, Industry Americus, Malcolm, Torsten Savage and Octavian George

    Shut the fuck up. screm3

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    Still, the Collinses’ ideas about what will encourage people to have more babies are unconventional, even among other pronatalists.

    They dismiss solutions such as more housing or more money as “unrealistic.” And just because a policy is pro-family — universal day care, for example, or extended parental leave — doesn’t necessarily mean it will encourage people to have more children, they say.

    Instead, they’re pushing for deregulating the day-care industry (“We have data on this,” Malcolm said, sharing a Substack link) and removing car-seat mandates (another Substack link). Requiring parents to have car seats discourages people from having big families, because you can only fit in so many seats, he argued. “In a number of states, you need to be in a car seat until you’re, like, 16, right?”

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      There have been multiple articles about these people in particular, they talk about having superior genes that need to be spread but both of them wear glasses, the woman is neuro divergent and they admit she needs a small team around her to be productive.

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      I mean these ideas kind of check out. Raise child mortality rates, and people will have to have more to replace them. More births for the birth god!

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        “Hæs we need to increase the birthrate”

        “did you try enacting pro-family policies.”

        “Oi did troi enacting pro-family policies”

        “only stupid people enact pro-family policies. you are stupid.”

        “I tried the stupid policies!”

        “you are a black man (who is very welcome in my totally colorblind pronatalist movement)”

        “This vexes me.”

        “The proportion, of elderly to working age people is increasingly increasing…”

        “That’s bad.”

        “We also have one of the highest child mortality rates of the global north, due to poor regulations and for-profit healthcare…”

        “We need a new mode of production. Also, I have not spoken in a while.”

        “no. new mode of production will destroy society. it needs child deaths to live.”

        “…I forbid this!”

        “don’t care. more child deaths!!”

        “Everything’s fixed, fertility is back to replacement level… thank you doctor!”

        “i am very smart.”

        “I too am in this episode.”

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      Titan Invictus, Simone, Industry Americus, Malcolm, Torsten Savage and Octavian George

      I feel so bad for these children. I know there’s a good chance they’ll grow up to be freaks themselves, but still, talk about being dealt a bad hand

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    It’s endlessly amusing to me that these sorts of people think they are smart. They insist they are geniuses in fact. Yet they are incapable of grasping the glaring obvious reasons that their stated goals clash with their political objectives.

    People must have more kids but we must make the world a worse place and that’ll make them have more kids.

    No it won’t. It obviously won’t to anyone who examines evidence for 15 minutes.

    I understand that some people are lying. Saying they want one thing but actually wanting and doing another. But there are true believers. These types… Musk fanboys… Etc

    I just want to point and laugh at them because they truly are so fucking incapable of understanding despite their education and auras of intelligence

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      this is the end result of devaluation of the humanities. Dunning-Kruger is overused on the internet but freaks like this are just a massive, massive, glaring example of it

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        True. Just the idea “well I know calculus/Java/physics like the back of my hand so I’m clearly an Uber level intellect.”

        Accepting you might be good at one thing and not another is surprisingly difficult

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          “I paid the tuition of a 4-year liberal arts college to learn a trade, now bow to my superior intellect!”

          I’ve studied all of the above and the “applied sciences” were by far the easiest (and least intellectual) in my experience.

          Learning the humanities, on the other hand, is like studying a proof inside-and-out without a proof to actually study from. There are no toy models, components cannot be isolated, there are no authoritative references, you can’t work backwards from the answer, you can’t coast off of your classmates, and even the best teacher does not guarantee that an idea is going to click in any student’s head. And that’s just for comprehension - a productive mastery is even more intellectually challenging, with even fewer guideposts on the path.

          Wrapping vocational training into higher education has caused untold harm to the world imo. Trades like engineering and software development should never have gotten mixed up with the university systems. However capitalism made it all but inevitable.

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            This is literally the mirror-image of the STEMlord anti-humanities arguments, and it’s a silly argument in either direction. Both STEM and the humanities are academically rigorous and contribute great value to a student’s education–that’s why the best schools have so many gen-ed requirements.

            STEM and the humanities would do much better uniting against their common foes in academia: administrators and athletics.

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              I’d like to think I’m being a little bit more nuanced than that. My complaint is not about any field of study or pursuit - they’re each great on their own - but about bringing together these very different things under one roof. The reasons why and consequences of.

              If this was a mirrored anti-STEM hit then I would be criticizing myself with these statements. I’m not.

              Traditionally universities were not vocational schools. They managed well enough for a long time, and they didn’t stand as an impediment to society. Then capitalism came and exploited it and now engineers, artists, and diplomats alike have to deal with the consequences (which often means competing against other). My argument is that we should simply reverse the exploitation - of the trades, of the universities, of the students, and of access to careers.

              If we’re to go after the admins and loan servicers etc., I don’t see why we should normalize the abuses they did to the system. There’s really no point in going after the admins unless we’re aiming for systemic changes imo.

              As for my comments on “intellectual,” it’s not like someone has to be intellectual to be a good person or that it’s really even that great of a quality. But since that is one of the arguments STEMlords like to make to belittle others, I think it is relevant to point out how training for a career in an applied science is not, all things considered, an especially rigorous intellectual pursuit. Which is fine because it is a horrible criteria to judge anyone by anyway.

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            Even between the life sciences and trades. I just finished a BS in biology as a mature student and a close friend is doing his in computer science part time, and the difference in what we have to do… So much of his assessed work can be entirely unsourced because it’s literally just coding. He’s a clever guy and was given an award for placing in the top 100 students institution-wide last year (~40k students), but I do wonder how many of the other 99 were in similar courses!

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              I can definitely believe it. And no hate to your friend, or any tradespeople, or trades themselves. Some of them are just caught in a systemic scandal, which probably hurts 99% of them as much as it does everyone else.

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                Oh, absolutely. He sees it himself. Fortunately (a) in Australia it’s partly subsidised and the loans are only indexed against inflation, and (b) he’s obviously enjoying it. Plus the few units that actually belong in a university are really interesting (but not as you say enough to justify the course being at a uni).

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      This obvious stupidity is why their attempts to wind people up just leaves me saying “Carry on”. A handful of rich idiots are not going to birth themselves out of a minority. They can’t. Wealth is by definition a minority. And the more children they have, the more their wealth will be split. Aristocracies of the past showed what happens then. Political affiliation isn’t all that hereditary either, so if that’s the goal, that’s also bound to fail. If it’s a race thing—they claim it’s not, but…—they need to support other white people, but their ideas just… don’t. These people are cosplayers.

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    The dads a weird failson. From the couple’s Wikipedia:

    Malcolm is the great-grandson of Carr Collins Sr., founder of the Fidelity Union Life Insurance Company, and grandson of James M. Collins, a Dallas, Texas businessman and politician.

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    Somehow, wearing all that, those giant thick-black frame glasses are still the most ridiculous part.