https://xcancel.com/NRA/status/1963993115410198964
Trump got the NRA to come out and oppose his proposal of banning trans people from owning guns.
Will chuds now start attacking the NRA and call them woke?
plenty of unnecessary clarifiers and weasel words in there, and the whole thing is vagueposting without mentioning trans rights
the nra can suck my piss
Hank: “Dale, the NRA is a Washington, D.C.-based organization. Are you telling me you support Washington, D.C.?”
Dale: “…Thaaat’s a thinker.”
Dale: Guns don’t kill people, the Government does
I’m honestly shocked their not siding with Trump.
Trump had a quote where he basically said he thought the whole trans people are mass shooters thing was bullshit. His heart isn’t really in the transphobia thing, though he’s happy to let other people go in on it, which isn’t any better.
Trump during a campaign rally in NC last year:
“You see I’m talking about cutting taxes and people go like that (small clap), I talk about transgender everybody goes crazy! Who would’ve thought? 5 years ago you didn’t know what the hell it was!”
Not that it matters because he is passing anti-trans legislation and is surrounded by transphobic fascists, but it is interesting how he basically just doesn’t care.
https://xcancel.com/mtphyb/status/1963445147754287470?t=R-p-AkmYXP5QvMpbmtw_cA&s=19
Opportunits doing opportunism
I am sorry but trump if funny
Trump had a quote where he basically said he thought the whole trans people are mass shooters thing was bullshit.
Show me
without due process.
I mean, the system is basically trying to make every one of us who isn’t a billionaire illegal. So…
And there it is.
Law abiding, huh? Sure would be a shame if they made a law that made being trans illegal somehow.
Notice the qualifiers: sweeping gun bans; arbitrarily strip; law-abiding citizens; without due process.
Not that statements count for shit anyway, but making qualifiers now shows the real intent
Lets them maintain a sheen of credibility when they cop out on it later. I’d love to be proven wrong though.
Fucking exactly. Quit beating around the bush and commit to what you’re saying. Trans people deserve the right to have guns. Say the word “trans”. It’s not contagious.
The National RIFLE Association wants to KEEP selling RIFLES??? Who would’a thought?
the nra has always opposed minorities having guns, this is actually a significant improvement for them
Yeah, stood against the Panthers iirc, guess NRA has gone woke.
Read it again - there’s a bunch of qualifiers in their and they don’t mention trans people at all.
im aware, im not about to start supporting them or counting on them, im just taking it as a slightly positive thing. they could have said nothing.
Nah, they will then support people with certain mental illnesses should be banned and then reclassify “transgender” as a mental illness.
Probably easier to make cross dressing an offence again, chuds don’t care if ‘law breakers’ lose rightd
In fact they savour it. You should see how much chuds get absolutely horned up when a police does violence on someone. They love it.
I’m sure they’ll do something easier like making a technicality around changing ID information.
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Of course, by some strange alchemy they will never take guns from people with dark triad personalities for whatever reason.
There’s a NRA member survey from 2023 I think that found fairly broad support for trans gun rights. The interesting part is that the 60+ age bracket was better about it than the 16-30 age bracket by something like 10-20 points. I’ll try to find a link later to the details.
e: https://web.archive.org/web/20250720181642/https://www.ammunitiontogo.com/lodge/nra-member-survey/
Fewer than 22% of National Rifle Association members surveyed believe a person who has undergone gender reassignment surgery should have their firearms taken from them. 28% of respondents are undecided on the issue.
The age group most supportive of trans-gun rights was the oldest segment of our survey. Just 18% of those 60 years old and older believe gender-reassignment is grounds for firearm confiscation. 29% of the the 18-30 year old respondents felt gender-reassignment surgery recipients should have their guns taken away.
So only a 11% difference, but still interesting.
Gen Z are the new boomers, aren’t they?
Well the ones that are NRA members at least.
I feel like the boomer NRA members are the real purists. They genuinely buy all the NRA propaganda and don’t just see it as a convenient lobby for other chud shit
I feel like the boomer NRA members are the real purists
Gotta try hard to find some ideological conviction here.
There’s literally lead in vapes.
That explains a lot.
So only a 11% difference, but still interesting.
I think this shows that the older folks are just genuinely sincere about their beliefs in gun rights. It’s the younger terminally online people that are insincere and ready to latch onto whatever if it beats down their opponents.
Thing is, that’s not Transgender, just Transsexual.
Ideally there wouldn’t be a distinction in the legal sense, but for example Cuba had to amend its laws to allow trans people to get corrected legal IDs. The old law required sex reassignment surgery, but this eventually became due to the US blockade reducing supplies for non-urgent ops.
Many people who we’d consider brutal transphobes may be accepting of trans people who have undergone SRS (something seen in a recent spat between Reform UK politicians) the same people are denying rights for people to obtain those surgeries, thus keeping them in a class of folks being slandered as “delusional cross-dressers”. (And, just as a note, not all trans people want SRS, but many have to just to obtain legal status!)
The distinction has been made to make the argument to deny the rights of trans people easier: If we claim anyone without SRS but is Trans are mentally ill, we can deny them civil liberties that would be harder to restrict if we had to acknowledge that our idea of gender being “your private dangly bits” falls apart if we let any of them get surgeries that modify those bits.
It’s a bit like how black people and other minority groups can some acceptance under the whote supremacist state if theh accrue political capital and wealth. The system, that doesn’t wish to admit that nonwhites are capable of social mobility, simply focusses on denying rights to the poorer section of these communities who are thus easy targets for the “fbi crime statistics” gang.
This is good point to highlight. This dynamic of “passing privileges” is definitely part of the recuperation of radicalism back into the liberal status quo. Much like “model minority” and other similar processes that coerce people to contort themselves in the hope of acceptance as “one of the good ones”.
There’s a NRA member survey from 2023 I think that found fairly broad support for trans gun rights. The interesting part is that the 60+ age bracket was better about it than the 16-30 age bracket by something like 10-20 points.
that’s concerning
2025 is so weird
NRA sees an opportunity to gain opportunist liberal supporters who will jump on board with them as an anti-Trump thing without any significant loss of their existing supporters who don’t support the org because of Trump. They supported the org before Trump because they sincerely support owning guns and they will continue to do so when Trump is gone.
They see only potential to gain by taking this position.
i didn’t know weasels could say “sweeping”
Banning guns for a specific group shows that gun control is possible and the politicians just didn’t want to do it. I think the NRA understand that and it would lead to greater gun control efforts further down the line
Not even if it’s to suppress the political expression of an oppressed minority?
is there any mass political expression by trans people? the nra has always been a glorified cartel; seems like trans people don’t threaten the capitalists the way the panthers did
Oh definitely no. It’s just been backlash to nothing to shut down a tiny minority. I would give them all gundams.
seems like trans people don’t threaten the capitalists the way the panthers did
that is obvious
The NRA is only worried a few white cis guys get got in the process.
they’ll relent once the bill gets amended to their liking.