• culpritus [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
    22·
    12 days ago

    There’s a NRA member survey from 2023 I think that found fairly broad support for trans gun rights. The interesting part is that the 60+ age bracket was better about it than the 16-30 age bracket by something like 10-20 points. I’ll try to find a link later to the details.

    e: https://web.archive.org/web/20250720181642/https://www.ammunitiontogo.com/lodge/nra-member-survey/

    Fewer than 22% of National Rifle Association members surveyed believe a person who has undergone gender reassignment surgery should have their firearms taken from them. 28% of respondents are undecided on the issue.

    The age group most supportive of trans-gun rights was the oldest segment of our survey. Just 18% of those 60 years old and older believe gender-reassignment is grounds for firearm confiscation. 29% of the the 18-30 year old respondents felt gender-reassignment surgery recipients should have their guns taken away.

    So only a 11% difference, but still interesting.

    • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
      6·
      12 days ago

      So only a 11% difference, but still interesting.

      I think this shows that the older folks are just genuinely sincere about their beliefs in gun rights. It’s the younger terminally online people that are insincere and ready to latch onto whatever if it beats down their opponents.

    • aanes_appreciator [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      3·
      12 days ago

      Thing is, that’s not Transgender, just Transsexual.

      Ideally there wouldn’t be a distinction in the legal sense, but for example Cuba had to amend its laws to allow trans people to get corrected legal IDs. The old law required sex reassignment surgery, but this eventually became due to the US blockade reducing supplies for non-urgent ops.

      Many people who we’d consider brutal transphobes may be accepting of trans people who have undergone SRS (something seen in a recent spat between Reform UK politicians) the same people are denying rights for people to obtain those surgeries, thus keeping them in a class of folks being slandered as “delusional cross-dressers”. (And, just as a note, not all trans people want SRS, but many have to just to obtain legal status!)

      The distinction has been made to make the argument to deny the rights of trans people easier: If we claim anyone without SRS but is Trans are mentally ill, we can deny them civil liberties that would be harder to restrict if we had to acknowledge that our idea of gender being “your private dangly bits” falls apart if we let any of them get surgeries that modify those bits.

      It’s a bit like how black people and other minority groups can some acceptance under the whote supremacist state if theh accrue political capital and wealth. The system, that doesn’t wish to admit that nonwhites are capable of social mobility, simply focusses on denying rights to the poorer section of these communities who are thus easy targets for the “fbi crime statistics” gang.

      • culpritus [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
        2·
        12 days ago

        This is good point to highlight. This dynamic of “passing privileges” is definitely part of the recuperation of radicalism back into the liberal status quo. Much like “model minority” and other similar processes that coerce people to contort themselves in the hope of acceptance as “one of the good ones”.

    • MohammedTheCommunistPalestinian [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      2·
      11 days ago

      There’s a NRA member survey from 2023 I think that found fairly broad support for trans gun rights. The interesting part is that the 60+ age bracket was better about it than the 16-30 age bracket by something like 10-20 points.

      that’s concerning