I’ve seen VSauce’s video where Michael does this for like, what, three days? And he’s basically lost it by the end. So while this is tempting, no, I can’t do it.
If I survived the year, then spent the next year with $500k worth of therapy to become semi-normalish again, I’m still left with $29.9995 billion dollars. Hell yeah I’ll do it.
What about the toilet facilities (or lack there of)?
Don’t forget drawing on the walls with your shit
ew. i use stinky steve’s shit just for the alliteration.
the phantom shitter strikes again
1 year and your insane
Or
Waste your whole life working towards 0.001% of that.
If I can write a will beforehand for who gets it then it’s worth it.
I know we have a decent amount of science pointing to this breaking the mind, but I can’t help but wonder if anything would change knowing an unimaginably great prize was waiting on the other side. How long would it take to count to 30 billion…
Counting to 30,000,000,000 would take more than a year.
$951.29/s
If the year in solitary confinement doesn’t turn you into a psychopath the $30 billion will!
I think this is one of those things where it seems totally fine to you but in reality it activates some kind of intrinsic biological limit that you aren’t even aware of. I FEEL like I would easily conquer the nothing box by just doing a lot of great thinking. But scientifically, I kind of doubt that I really could. It’s like if someone challenged me to eat only celery for a year. I might have the willpower to do it, but biologically I may just die. Now I don’t think the nothing box would kill me, but I can imagine it making people go crazy for sure.
You’re right, you’d go crazy, check out this vid of VSauce doing it for three days. https://youtu.be/iqKdEhx-dD4
solitary confinement is recognized as torture, and that’s probably for a good reason. I’ve also had personal experience in psychiatric hospitals with people who had to be confined, and while their being there is probably due to every available professional being entirely hopeless with them, the confinement definitely doesn’t help the situation. even the ex-director of the NIMH, thomas insel, finds in “healing: our path from mental illness to mental health” that a lot of mental healthcare is actually social and communal care, not cold hard medicine. where medicines fail, you can still treat a patient with kindness and patience, integrate them into their community, make friends, have good daily experiences. you can still give them a human touch. all that heals people to some extent, and solitary confinement is exactly the opposite of it.
a lot of people seem to be assuming solitary confinement, but nothing in the prompt actually indicates you can’t have visitors. furthermore, you might have a lightswitch. being able to turn the lights off to sleep and chat with visitors might significantly slow your descent into madness. (though anyone would probably still be pretty fucked up after a year).
Doesn’t the “you have nothing” cover that?
you can’t own people.
“you have no books, moovies, phones, consoles. NOTHING.”
What if, you know, it’s like now and you just pay a subscription for those?
Yes I would definitely do it
I’d be willing to linearly downscale.
I am sure that for me 3 Million is more than i could ever reasonably spend for the rest of my life.
So with 8760 hours in a year, that would be like 53 Minutes. You know what, make it a full hour.
This comment exposes how wrong it actually is, that we allow individuals to become billionaires…
Came here to say that. 30 billion is a stupid amount of money. If down scaling is an option, anyone who considers doing it for a year (for personally owning all the money) is mentally ill.
Why?
Shouldn’t everyone feel morally responsible for receiving the maximum reward so that they can personally distribute those funds amongst as many people as possible? The other guy is fine with just 3m, so one year of your life apparently could provide 9999 other people with a life of never having to work again.
That is why I said (for personally owning all the money). If someone is selfless enough to spend one year in an insane room so they can give away the money to others, kudos to that person.
I wonder if they’d still want to do it after the year of isolation.
Where is the money coming from? It would be just redistributing money to give it to some lucky people. Instead we could fight against inequality and skip a year of misery.
Is it fair or just to expect one person to suffer for the benefit of others?
[The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas intensifies]
The Ones Who Walk toward Omelas, To Volunteer for the Pain Pit
I’d spend all 30B within a month absolutely feasting on the rich
🤯
Fair. Though I think if I had 30 billion I’d start build better housing in 3rd world countries or something like that
Shit. 1 million is enough for me, I’m not going to earn that the rest of my life.
So sign me up for 20 mins in there.
Yeah I wouldn’t know what to do with 30 billion. Pay off the mortgage, couple of new cars, irrigate the world’s deserts?
Of all the ways to get 30 billion dollars, this would probably be the least emotionally disturbing choice.
Only ethical billionaire
Of course they’d be a fucking nutter once released
My wife lived a very similar life, but also in pain for multiple years. She had no entertainment because everything hurt. The lack of entertainment didn’t drive her insane. Even the pain didn’t drive her insane.
But then you came along?
No she died. I took care of her for years.
Well, not a ‘nutter’ compared to other billionaires tho.
Inherit it from parents who… Ok, I see your point
Eh, it doesn’t make you immoral to inherit money from an evil person, but it’s immoral to keep it.
The intended implication was that these may not be the best parents. The comment above was about being emotional disturbed. Sure, it was about choices but let’s read over that
I like that Lemmy’s first thought is pro-rated payments, and yes, it really does show how much money 30 billion is when you can make millions in an hour. My first thought was, I think I could actually pull out off for the full year.
Most people need some kind of social interaction, including folks with conditions that make that hard. I’m probably not an exception to that but I have learned ways to pass full days of time just story developing and singing and such. Creating characters also helps ward the loneliness, although I think the hardest part is being unable to actually write anything down. I could easily do a year if I had enough paper and a way to draw or write.
The reports on the linked wiki page of the use of things like this as torture aside, is there any research / evidence on how things like this affect people who are treated this way voluntarily?
I’ve seen video of someone volunteering to be waterboarded to show that it’s not that bad if you know what’s happening (spoiler—it was still very bad). I’d assume other kinds of psychological torture would be just as hard to deal with, even with full knowledge and consent.
vsauce of all people did a thing on this sort of voluntary sensory deprivation in their series mind field back in 2017. results were not good. michael spent i think three days in a white room with a bed and a box of food, and he was a wreck when he was let out. the loss of any sense of time really fucks with you apparently.
I’ve seen video of someone volunteering to be waterboarded to show that it’s not that bad if you know what’s happening (spoiler—it was still very bad)
Ah yes, renowned edgelord and one of the Four Horsemen of Atheism, Christopher Hitchens
Tbh I’m surprised waterboarding isn’t like a fetish thing by now.
it probably is, just a bit too real in most people’s minds to be any sort of widespread.
I’d do it no matter how much it would mess me up, and all that money, except enough to buy a nice house in my city, would be going towards an endowment for a trans charity. Its mission would be multi-faceted, providing direct supports for trans people alongside fighting legal battles. Hopefully that would nullify the contributions of people like J.K. Rowling.
This lady is so hardcore