The reports on the linked wiki page of the use of things like this as torture aside, is there any research / evidence on how things like this affect people who are treated this way voluntarily?
I’ve seen video of someone volunteering to be waterboarded to show that it’s not that bad if you know what’s happening (spoiler—it was still very bad). I’d assume other kinds of psychological torture would be just as hard to deal with, even with full knowledge and consent.
vsauce of all people did a thing on this sort of voluntary sensory deprivation in their series mind field back in 2017. results were not good. michael spent i think three days in a white room with a bed and a box of food, and he was a wreck when he was let out. the loss of any sense of time really fucks with you apparently.
To be fair to him, he didn’t think it would be that bad, said as much then tried it. Afterwards he completely changed his point of view and admitted he was wrong.
sure, he changed his view on that particular thing and that was noble. But him and the other three are arseholes because of the aggressive way they behave(d) towards religious people.
The point of secularism is to allow people to have their faith or lack therof, and have public life not assume one way is correct. They weren’t “atheist figures” they were anti-theistic crusaders, who gave a hand to islamophobes during a time of increased islamophobia during the “war on terror” which laid the foundation of the civil liberties abuses happening today.
The reports on the linked wiki page of the use of things like this as torture aside, is there any research / evidence on how things like this affect people who are treated this way voluntarily?
I’ve seen video of someone volunteering to be waterboarded to show that it’s not that bad if you know what’s happening (spoiler—it was still very bad). I’d assume other kinds of psychological torture would be just as hard to deal with, even with full knowledge and consent.
vsauce of all people did a thing on this sort of voluntary sensory deprivation in their series mind field back in 2017. results were not good. michael spent i think three days in a white room with a bed and a box of food, and he was a wreck when he was let out. the loss of any sense of time really fucks with you apparently.
Ah yes, renowned edgelord and one of the Four Horsemen of Atheism, Christopher Hitchens
https://youtu.be/4LPubUCJv58?t=194
To be fair to him, he didn’t think it would be that bad, said as much then tried it. Afterwards he completely changed his point of view and admitted he was wrong.
sure, he changed his view on that particular thing and that was noble. But him and the other three are arseholes because of the aggressive way they behave(d) towards religious people.
The point of secularism is to allow people to have their faith or lack therof, and have public life not assume one way is correct. They weren’t “atheist figures” they were anti-theistic crusaders, who gave a hand to islamophobes during a time of increased islamophobia during the “war on terror” which laid the foundation of the civil liberties abuses happening today.
Tbh I’m surprised waterboarding isn’t like a fetish thing by now.
it probably is, just a bit too real in most people’s minds to be any sort of widespread.