“Whatever Donald Trump is doing in office, in the minds of Latinos it is not working. They have turned against him in massive, massive numbers,” said CNN data chief Harry Enten on Monday.

Enten pointed out that Trump was nearly tied with 2024 Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris with Latinos on immigration, where the former vice president enjoyed a 2 percentage-point advantage over Trump in October 2024.

Now, Trump has a -38 net approval rating with Latinos on immigration.

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    He…doesn’t…care…

    He only needed to get voted in once (well…twice…the first was a trial run). He used the time to take control of every single lever of power through cronyism or outright criminality. Votes don’t matter because no matter what the votes say, the people controlling the election will simply say “Trump won”, and when the legal argument against the obvious election rigging gets to the supreme court, they’l affirm it. This is by design.

    Or, also possible, Trump will simply not have an election using an excuse of “we’re at war” or whatever.

    He doesn’t need you. He doesn’t want you. You can all die for all he gives a shit, so long as he and his rich friends keep making money off the presidency.

    There is no “voting” your way out of this bullshit.

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    Everybody in this thread going like, “It was so obvious he was going to do this, how could they be so stupid?”

    I’ll tell you why: it’s because the Democrats ran as border hawks. Remember when they were saying, “We’re the ones who actually tried to pass a bill to crack down on immigration, but Trump blocked it.” The Democrats actively downplayed the threat that Trump posed by trying to claim that he was all talk. They completely abandoned any argument like, “Trump wants to build a wall because he’s racist,” in favor of “We’re the ones who actually want to build the wall.” If you’re saying that Latinos were “stupid” or whatever, what you’re saying is that the Democrats were lying and it should’ve been obvious to Latinos that they were lying, and because it was so obvious they were lying, they should’ve voted for them. Which is an absolutely insane thing to say.

    When you have two candidates fighting over who’s going to be tougher on immigration, it’s really not that surprising that people who might be affected by that issue don’t vote based on that issue. And many Latinos have conservative cultural values. Absent a clear argument for vote against Trump, like that he’s racist, that his talk about cracking down on “illegals” won’t stop there, they voted based on other shit.

    Of course, this reality is utterly unimaginable to the DNC, because it’s taken as unquestionable dogma that the way to win votes is by moving to the right and appealing to the mythical centrist swing voter. The reality is that if you can draw this hard moral line, and stand by it, then you can convince people that you’re actually going to protect their rights and that they should put aside other, less important concerns for the sake of defending this moral line. Even if that requires going out on a limb and adopting a more “extreme” position. Even now, there’s a lot of silence coming from the centrist Dems when they ought to be shouting from the rooftops about this shit, because oh no, what if we alienate the three people in the country who actually liked Dick Cheney.

    I fucking hate anybody who tries to pull this “leopards ate their face” bit about vulnerable minorities who were abandoned by both parties. Go fuck yourself. Legitimately, go fuck yourself. You don’t get to stan a party that says, “Fuck you, vote for me,” and then act all smug when people don’t vote for them and get screwed over by the other side. Yeah, it was obvious they’d get screwed over by the other side, but your side was also promising to screw them over. Christ.

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    He is doing everything absolutely wrong.

    Through some combination of malice and incompetence he seems to have the ability to do the worst thing possible on every occation.

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    I find it hard to feel any sympathy for Latinos who voted for Trump in 2024. This guy’s whole platform in 2016 was being racist towards Latinos and he stops saying overtly racist shit for just a bit during the election and people fall for that? It kind of stretches my imagination to think of how someone could be that stupid.

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      Reminds me of the south park episode from 2016 or 17 when people were mad president garrison was fucking people to death and he was incredulous because that was his whole campaign.

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    I hate reporting these days, reporter phrases it like a giant unsolvable mystery.

    “Whatever Donald Trump is doing in office, in the minds of Latinos it is not working. They have turned against him in massive, massive numbers,” said CNN data chief Harry Enten

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      Agreed, it’s such a punt. Why do any actual political analysis when you can just look at data. Why directly criticize trump for empowering a fascist paramilitary, weaponizing it against good, hard-working people looking for a better life, and immiserating hundreds of thousands of people by tearing families and communities apart. You can just point at Spanberger '25 being +22 compared to Harris '24. Fuck CNN.

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        Data means nothing to those who don’t know how to read it, and even if they do know how they ask the wrong questions still. Fuck CNN.

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      I wonder what could possibly be the reason they don’t appreciate being kidnapped by federal agents because of their race

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      Sure, but why would he give a shit? They’re doing everything they can to make sure he doesn’t need a single vote to stay president.

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        Yeah, but betting everything on the moron coup is a terrible plan. American voting systems are weirdly insulated from the federal government because states handle the process almost completely. Its absolutely not guaranteed they can compromise the midterms enough to prevent the complete collapse of their coalition. The GOP definitely does care about its total electoral chances outside of Trump.

        They had a bizarrely popular mandate on immigration, all they had to do was be SLIGHTLY reasonable and not harass the huge American latino communities. Its an incredibly stupid and unforced error. They could have shut the borders completely with abject cruelty if they just left the communities who voted for them alone.

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          Sure, but that would mean letting the people they hate and blame for everything bad ever happening to them, stay in the country. When the end goal is racial purity, you can’t half ass it and let a bunch stay. That would invalidate everything they’re trying to accomplish.

          Hitler’s “pure” Germany wouldn’t be pure with a bunch of jews living their best lives either. The harassment of the latino population is very important to them, it’s not the end goal, but it’s the first and very necessary step in the lunatics’ plan.

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      It would be nice if MAGA could admit that the pedophile shit is hurting them. Im skeptical that it is honestly.

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        You have to remember, conservatives somehow can wildly object to multiple things in the GOP platform but still vote R up and down the ticket as long as they agree with just one thing.

        Pro-life? Better vote for the pro-life people who are all about zero gun control, mandatory death sentences, and no government supported prenatal care - not to mention fucking over immigrant kids/splitting up families!

        Love hunting with guns? Better vote for the gun loving people who also want to sell off our national forests, remove all environmental protections, and privatize our parks.

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            Not just “pedophile”, but “child rapist who was close friends with the most notorious child sex trafficker in modern history and transparently had him murdered to cover it up”.

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    I fucking wish these people didn’t have to learn the hard way… “We” were telling them he’d do this, he was telling them he’d do this, but who know what they were thinking to believe it wasn’t going to go down like this…

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      I would assume they were happy to close the door behind them, when it comes to immigration. I think they did not expect their friends and family would be deported.

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      Voters are lazy. I would assume it’s because they equated his first four years to prosperity (it wasn’t) and assumed it would be more of the same.

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        Few groups hate “illegals” more than immigrants. They did it the “hard way” so it shouldn’t be easy for anyone else.

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        Idk how anyone would say the first 4 years were prosperous. When he left office we weren’t allowed to leave our house or stand closer than 5 feet to each other and people were freaking out about having to wear masks. People were hoarding toilet paper. That doesn’t seem prosperous to me

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          Pretty sure that Donvict and Pence were throwing rallies with the slogan “promises made, promises kept” in 2020, too. I kept thinking - really, they promised THIS? A worldwide pandemic that they completely screwed the pooch on?

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          Yeah, but we all got checks with his name on them and told we don’t have to care about the “weak” in our community if it inconvenienced us. Also racism and sexism and “faith” are back in the open . Isn’t that worth it?

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        Some internet digging points to an instagram page for Humaid Abdulla Albuqaish, who appears to be a rich and Middle Eastern version of Tiger King.

        …I’m not super confident on that, as the pics on the linked page don’t look quite like the dude in the gif; but maybe a 10-years-younger version of the dude just looked that different?

        Anywho, if that is the dude, the footage is most likely of a pet, and the situation staged to produce the short.