so glad i have librewolf
I use duckduckgo and my eyes were so used to glazing over the ai preview I don’t know when it changed but it’s now a Wikipedia summary, and actually useful.
Wikipedia is everything ai chatbots want to be, and why the right hates it so much.
DuckDuckGo has a “NoAI” subdomain:
https://noai.duckduckgo.com/Works like normal DDG,
except, you guessed it, no AI :)I tried it and normal (not signed in, default settings) and got the same results. No ai and Wikipedia either off to the side or up top like ai.
yeah they had these wikipedia defntions of things when it fits for a long time, before the AI thing
An LLM with a cultivating source is a lot better than what the other major ones are, but it still has the issue of selectivity based on probability and not weighing on evidence (unless it does that, which would be huge). Because people are naturally gullible and believe the first thing they read, especially if it’s presented as if “someone” has validated it for them.
But the good part is that both DDG and Firefox made it both obvious and easy to disable the AI.
selectivity based on probability and not weighing on evidence
I don’t follow this, but an LLM’s whole “world” is basically the prompt it’s fed. It can “weigh” that, but then how does one choose what’s in the prompt?
What they need is cheaper long context (being worked on, especially outside the Tech Bro circles), and primarily, much more sophisticated databases to hook up to. Basically they need what WolframAlpha was trying to build a decade ago: a structured, searchable repository of human knowledge they can query that’s better than random Google search results.
It’s honestly insane this isn’t the first concern of all the AI Bros. The focus is on training data and “AGI” scams when they should basically be building a RAG system to end all RAG systems if they want something functional.
selectivity based on probability and not weighing on evidence
I don’t follow this, but an LLM’s whole “world” is basically the prompt it’s fed. It can “weigh” that, but then how does one choose what’s in the prompt?
Some describe or use the analogy of an autocompleter with a very big database. LLMs are more complex than just that, but that’s the idea, and when the model looks at the prompt and context of the conversation, it’s choosing the best match of words to fulfill that prompt. My point was that the best word or phrase completion doesn’t mean it’s the best answer, or even right. It’s just seen as the most probabilistic in the huge training data. If that data is crap, the answers are crap. Having Wikipedia as a source and presumably the only source is better than many places on the internet to pull from, but that doesn’t guarantee the answers that pop up will be always correct or the best in a choice of answers. It’s just the most likely based on the data.
It would be different if it was AGI because by definition it would be able to find the best data based on the data itself, not text probability, and could look at anything connected including discussion behind the article and make a judgement on how solid the information is for the prompt in question. We don’t have that yet. Maybe we will, maybe we won’t for any number of reasons.
I turned some friends and family on to ddg and they love the AI. It feels like a betrayal, to say the least
Is it their ai mode? Or just the wiki summary that shows up on some searches? Havent tried their ai thing
Their AI mode is duckduckgo.com. noai.duckduckgo.com is AI-free. Meaning, instead of a useless and common sense regurgitating AI response (or alternatively, completely made up shit), you get a Wikipedia infobox.
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Honestly, the fact that they even have a remove button easily accessible like this is miles above everyone else.
I’d still prefer opt-in, but this is better than nothing.
It shouldn’t be part of the core browser at all. That trash still takes up space in the installation (however small), and could be reenabled without my consent in a future update. At a bare minimum, it should have been a plugin.
Also it keeps getting turned back on.
If you click this, then go into about:config and search on .ml, you’ll still see a host of other toggled on features that you still need to disable.
for now
Make it an extension and its golden
I like the firefox AI translation because it doesn’t send the text to fucking google. It translates it on my machine, and its shitty but good enough most of the time.
And when it fails, it fails spectacularily!
The mistranslations can be (and usually are) absolutely hilarious. Saying a part of me will be disappointed once they inevitably fix it is an understatement.
i don’t know if it still does it but it would, without fail, translate the expression “sagan om _” (the story of _) to “the lord of _”. no cookie for guessing why.
someone is paying them to add it probably
Right now, if you have an enterprise sponsor, you’re going to be pushed to find a way to add something that qualifies as AI. So basically, yeah, probably.
Explanation of the image
Spoilers for the game Deltarune, particularly the alternative routes
The image depicts a dialogue box with the option “proceed” selected using the soul. In the Weird Route (an alternative route that changes various events in the game), the word “proceed” is used to represent morally wrong actions that advance the weird route (for example, forcing the character Noelle to run through the mouse puzzles in Chapter 2, or forcing the thorn ring onto her finger in Chapter 4)
The use in the meme suggests that Mozilla is forcing the change through, without listening to their users
It’s like we’re in some sort of weird route
Is there really a choice? Ai is here to stay. Also majority of Firefox users aren’t using it specifically as an alternative to big tech
Yes, more than 80% of Firefox users have google as search engine which already tells that they consume ai content willingly
no-one
someone is in a bubble.
Found the slop enjoyer.
No, moron, I just know people who use it.
And if I did, so what?
“So what” …the defining ethos of the slop bros who don’t mind when technology is built on the back of stolen content and ecosystem collapse.
Inability to articulate their rage: the defining limitation of the anti-ai bubble
stolen content and ecosystem collapse
Ok, I just have to say… You… just described all of capitalism.
I understand the Anti-Ai push, but I wish we would stop acting like LLMs are doing something new or inherently worse then what we are already doing. Search engines are also themselves massive data vats thay use energy and shit unrenewably. Computing like we currently do it in any form is bad.
Could we please stop being like “AI is DesTRoYinG ThE PlaNEt!”. Because yes, it is, but every fucking thing we do in technoledgy is too. You think the fediverse is all on “green” energy?
Bad take. The energy AI is using right now compared to all search engines is immense and real people can feel this effect because their energy bills are rising as a direct cause of new datacenters all for AI.
A lot of things are destroying the planet, but AI is certainly up there towards the top i’d think.
(And not everything in tech is bad)
Agreed. While plenty of people have been covering energy use by technology for many years as well as the many dangers of social media and other online services…the fact is Gen AI simply takes everything that was already questionable and doubles it…quadruples it… Yes, not everything in tech is bad! And the stuff that was bad before does not excuse what’s frighteningly worse now.
Your comment says a lot more about you than it does me; you’re part of the problem.
I’m sure from your perspective I am part of the problem - you haven’t defined it but I figure given your defence of an obviously false statement you consider anyone not part of the anti-AI crusade to be part of the problem. I hope you have enough clogs.
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Firefox and browsers based on Firefox, while Mozilla has been on a steady downward trajectory in the ethics department for quite a while, are still vastly superior to Chromium-based browsers.
Everything is on a downward trajectory. Like 8 companies own the whole fucking planet and everything on it.
I think 2 were bought out in a merger recently.
vivaldi is already shiddy, they have a lot of google integrations that are hard to get rid off
Vivaldi was enshittified day 1.
