Of course they are, they’re all Nazis too.
25-35 year old humans are not kids.
“Kids do stupid things,” he continued. “Especially young boys. They tell edgy, offensive jokes. That’s what kids do.”
I was a young, stupid, conservative boy. Most of my jokes were Strong Bad related. I didn’t at any time glorify Hitler.
These kids need an intervention, not apologia.
Exactly this. I grew up conservative and no, we didn’t joke about Hitler or the Holocaust.
I did. I said all sorts of offensive shit with varying degrees of understanding how offensive. HOWEVER, that does not mean I didn’t expect and face accountability for my actions. That’s part of it. That’s how dumb young men grow into sane, understanding, and well adjusted people. We fuck up, we learn, we improve.
Yeah I said all sorts of shit I never believed. Felt like none of it mattered and racism wasn’t real etc etc because I was a dumb privileged kid. Once I talked to people different than me and thought for like forty seconds I realized how stupid I was and how I’d been getting sucked down a right wing rabbit hole.
None of it excuses my actions and these dumb young Republicans are actively trying to enforce their racist beliefs.
Did you do it on a recorded medium, so everyone would find out, all while having political leadership aspirations?
This is also a fair response! I’m glad I didn’t run in those circles, and I’m glad you got out.
I grew up progressive and we said all the dumb racist shit too. And then my mom beat the shit out of me in front of the neighborhood as a small child. I didn’t say racist shit after that. Pretty sure nobody did. I lived in a place where “you see what happens??” was common parenting. One to many public beatings and we all learned to stfu and know our role.
My teenage friends and I were edgy to well past the point of being vile. The only one of us making “Hitler was right” jokes was a Jew who was complaining about his parents and we always told him to shut the fuck up.
I did. All my friends and I were a bunch of edge lords with upper middle class/old money backgrounds. We never said that shit in front of any adults though because back then it was still a bad thing to do at all. However, I grew out of it and they never did…
Lots of the adults in my edgy days fought in WWII so you know those kids STFU around the Vets.
True, but I will say this, it doesn’t matter how old any of them are or even if they fought in WW2; many of them still held very shitty views of anyone that was poor or not white. Most of the people in power during the Civil Rights movement were WW2 vets and they did not stop being racist after defeating fascism.
Yes but celebrating their actual enemy that they fought would be extremely offensive to them.
You are not wrong at all. Sadly though, when Communism became the head issue, most anti-fascist rhetoric and ideas went out the window including actually punishing all former Nazis.
These are the same people who argue that spanking kids is necessary to correct them. It’s interesting how selective they are about punishing certain things.
For me my friends and I joke about everything except stuff like pedophilia. In our minds with how shit the world is we are just like “guess we’ll just laugh at everything” cuz we’d rather laugh and feel happy than be saddened or bad with everything else going on. And I personally think it’s ok to do that and joke about hitler type stuff but not if you’re someone who is in office you have a diff standard to uphold than people like my friends a I.
We just love dark fucked up humor
So something to consider is if you keep making those jokes you will unconsciously start to internalize it. If not you then one of your friends. It’s just how brains work.
I sarcastically make fucked up jokes with my friends too but only ones I know already don’t hold those positions and only when it’s clear that we are being sarcastic or pretending to be dumb fucks.
Eh we only do it with people we’re close with. And I believe it’s fine if you’re joking sure you sound like an asshole who cares gotta have fun.
Men 18-40 spouting racist, bigoted, and antisemitic things are “young boys”.
However, when it’s girls, minors, that are sexually assaulted, they are “young women.”
That really is quite the uncomfortable double standard.
Until they get older and get a job where they need to be taken seriously. Then they’ll transition to girls again.
Vocabulary matters. You’re pointing to a very similar journalistic/political bias. The most obvious of which is that “Israeli citizen slaughtered by terrorists!” vs. “253 Palestinians lost after strategic Israeli strike”
My favorite is the “Israeli Kidnapped from tank”. Not even kidding.
Describing IDF soldiers and illegal settlers (prisoners of war) as “hostages” vs. Palestinian children, adults, all held without trial by Israel in what could only be described as concentration camps, as “prisoners”.
Once you start noticing this type of passive/active language bias you start to recognize it everywhere.
Some of it is unconscious. A result of living in patriarchy and white supremacy. Most often from normies that have been trained to use that language. But, when it comes to media, it is almost always intentional to manufacture concent for the narrative they are trying to form.
Check out “title history” of news articles and you’ll see in real time how this language adapts to the response of viewers or internal critics trying to ensure the correct conclusion is reached by the reader.
Followup for those interested: read Manufactured Consent. This world has been poisoned by people with evil deep in their hearts and malice on their tongues.
When you have two major political parties and both are politically Right Wing, Manufactured Consent starts to feel normal to people.
Sort of like how RFK Jr could just dismiss sexual assault allegations from when he was in his mid 40s as being part of being a “very rambunctious youth.”
These absolute garbage individuals literally called rape epic, the double standard is coming from them and the people in their party who excuse it, and then the media normalizes it.
Men 18-40 spouting racist, bigoted, and antisemitic things
Is evolution working as intended…
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3029708/
The same neurotransmitter (oxytocin) that causes love, humans to group up, and not be repulsed by incredibly disgusting kids…
Causes (especially for straight men) an intense hatred for literally anyone who you weren’t socialized as a toddler around because they ain’t “us”. They’re “them” or an out-group.
That’s why the right goes so hard against diversity in media, why they lost their shit over Drag story hour.
Because humans are animals, and if we’re not properly socialized as children, shit goes all Lord of the Flies, every time. You want a generation of racist white guys who hate anyone that ain’t straight? You need to shield them completely from everything that’s not that during their formative years, and that’s what the right has been doing.
Everyone wants to pretend they pick random shit, but the people driving it are obscenely wealthy, and even if they’re not smart enough to figure out the psychology, they’ll pay someone to do it.
And for decades neoliberals played I to it, because they’re paid by the same wealthy people to keep everyone divided.
We gave up on the kids, and it’s gonna be impossible to win the lost ones back. We can still teach them critical thinking, but in 40 years when they’re 60, they’re gonna be a new maga. Just from how the normal aging process works. As we lose mental ability, we fall back on ingroup/outgroup.
Gen alpha is a boomer timebomb waiting to happen…
Gen alpha is a boomer timebomb waiting to happen…
It might be even much worse if the algorithms are allowed to continue unabated and people do less and less civic-minded things, in person. I think part of the thesis of “Bowling for Columbine” is that starting some time ago, lots and lots of people doing things within their community as groups, in-person has had a steep drop-off.
I think I remember Masons talking about how boomers were almost missing from many of their lodges. Not sure of the reason for that, but due to things like Dan Brown, there was an uptick among Gen X joining up. I still think it’s probably way down for community groups of all kinds, generation after generation.
At least boomers are the ones still showing up to many in-person things. I don’t know what the civic engagement is for Gen X and younger…also, the boomers had a lot of fantastic ideas, some of the first to really go mainstream was with their generation. I think many of them were some of the first to be socialized in the broader sense, too. It’s just that Ronnie Raygunism came along and started building things like Faux and hate radio to capture that demo in particular…but I’m not fooled by the common trope of the boomer stereotype we keep seeing and blaming it all on them. I think that’s overlooking a lot by using a convenient scapegoat, especially now that most of the Silent Generation is disappearing, and nearly all (?) of the Greatest Generation is gone.
This is why I believe that building up community spaces is truly the way forward.
Mutual aid is the foundation of society, but we Americans have let that part of our culture deteriorate and instead promoted the “self-made individual” as the heroic ideal.
Although it doesn’t seem vital, promoting pro-social spaces is critical to getting people to engage with their community and expand the “tribe” to include more degrees of separation.
I’ve often wondered about the physical spaces of churches - not the mega-churches, I’m talking about the ones that mostly seem to be sitting empty, as xtianity is dwindling in this country.
I wonder about some kind of mass movement that could be turned to using those spaces for more and more civic and secular activities that are not affiliated with the church (but maybe find some way to offset the costs of the church - pay some nominal rental fee, etc) set up as a neutral meeting ground.
Things like maker spaces, meetups of all kinds (think meetup.com), game nights, etc. Ideally, every day/night of the week not already reserved for something in the church.
Reagan was a product of the newly established Southern Strategy, which has turned out to be very successful in its goals.
I think it was 24-40, not 18. Soo yeah.
You could predict what a Republican will say just by shaking a magic-88 ball.
Outlook not so good
Ask it about Microsoft Teams next
shake shake shake
🎱 - Meeting at noon. It should be an email but…
Outlook not so good
‘I said Teams, not Outlook, but fair point.’
Was typing up a pithy comment about it needing to be an unapologetically racist magic 8 ball when I noticed the extra 8. Well played.
Every side says “vile Nazi shit”
“Kids do stupid things,” he continued.
Sure. I did stupid stuff. I never glorified the extermination of 11 million people though.
And these guys were 24 - 35. None of them were kids.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/10/republican-hitler-group-chat-nazi-politico/
Great follow-up piece by Mother Jones to the initial Politico article, thanks for sharing it!
Don’t some of them work for the government too?
These were NOT “kids”. They were adults up to 40 years old. Most men have grown up around 25 years of age. These privileged cunts are well past the point of learning anything new, and maga doesn’t do learning anyway, so they are typical, fat ass racist republicans now, all grown up.
These obese dumbasses, did this on record, and never had the thought that maybe, just maybe, recording their racism might be a bad idea.
These obese dumbasses all have political leadership aspirations, and guaranteed at least a couple will use the “growing up” excuse during their Senatorial confirmations, one day. If that was today, they’d be shoo ins for SCrOTUS or Cabinet positions. In the future, when their fat turns come around? Let’s hope by then that the worm has turned, and fetid republican racism will no longer be acceptable, and these cunts get shown the door.
They deserve to have their futures fucked by their present. Racist, obese cunts, whose genetics are a curse on humanity. Fuck them, and all republicans. With a cactus. No lube!
I heard someone make a good, frightening point. Trump has been a political force for over a decade now. There are a generation of young people who only know MAGA politics. To them that is normal. They’ve never seen a functional government in their adult lives.
Idk bro. I’m almost 40 and I’ve never seen a functional government either.
Republican fossils are old enough to be actual Nazi party members.
Yeah, fuck obese people!
(Am I reading this right?)
I think you missed the bit about racism…
It reads like you’re at least as mad about them being obese as you are about everything else.
Or are you just using obese to mean bad?
Might want to work on your messaging.
Obesity in a lazy hitlerpig who subsists exclusively on garbage takeaway food, even though he has stolen billions of dollars and can afford the best, is just one more reason to despise him. He has NO excuses for being as foul as he is. You might want to fuck off with your judgementalism and stupid political correctness. You’re a living excuse to be ones worst, with an excuse for everything, hey? Be better and stop giving cover to a obese, redolent, racist cunt, who’s bent on destroying the western world.
Got it. Obese people are hitlerpigs. Thanks for clearing that up.
We don’t kink-shame around here. Go for it!
“Focus on the real issues,” he said. “Don’t focus on what kids say in group chats.” He then suggested that whoever leaked the racist messages is a “scumbag.”
“Kids do stupid things,” he continued. “Especially young boys. They tell edgy, offensive jokes. That’s what kids do.”
I knew it! Did he quote those harmless jokes? Yeah, I didn’t think so.
It also bears noting that while “Young Republicans” may sound like a group composed of baby-fresh, underdeveloped prefrontal cortexes, the national organization accepts members of the Republican Party between the ages of 18 and 40.
But this is much worse imo:
Vance (…) downplayed the texts by comparing them to a leaked message from Jay Jones, the Democratic nominee for Virginia attorney general. Jones has come under fire this month after 2022 text messages in which he expressed a desire to shoot the former Virginia House speaker were made public.
“This is far worse than anything said in a college group chat, and the guy who said it could become the AG of Virginia. I refuse to join the pearl clutching when powerful people call for political violence,” Vance wrote Tuesday on social media. Jones has, in fact, been condemned by members of his own party. Jones is also one man, making condemnable statements, not a large group of politically minded individuals producing, sharing, and celebrating the very hate they claim to revile.
Exactly. Demeaning and violent slurs against big parts of the population, even calling for their extermination, is on a whole different level to one person saying they want one other person dead. It’s no comparison, but it’s clever propaganda.
focus on the real issues
Oh you mean like the fact that the upcoming new generation of YOUR PARTY is openly praising Hitler?
Seems like a pretty real issue to me.
And all Democrats have condemned the comments that Jones made. Can we spot the difference?!
Kids (aka actual adults) say some horrible racist things. No big deal!
Someone says some honest thing about Kirk like he was a hate monger but didn’t deserve to die. Kill this removed and make sure they will never work in the US again!!
Dogshit nazi cunt administration. The entire GOP should be welded in a box, prison is too gentle for these freaks
Okay but only if the box is purged with argon first. I want that full penetration for this job.
“Young republicans”
30-40 year old reject beasts trying to angle skin color as their claim to supremacy
I wonder what kind of conversations Vance had with his wife about these kinds of things? Or his children…
Probably “Be Whiter!” to his kids.
Vancer says, “Don’t be not white kids!”
These nazis are so gross. I saw a “In memorial” billboard with nasty charlie kirk on it today. Disgusting! Where were all the billboards for the children gunned down in school? Nowhere, because the GOP are nothing but immoral hypocrites.
Those definitely weren’t jokes.
Because of course they did. Is this even news anymore?
==Headline 1941 Germany== “Nazi Leadership jumps to defend Hitler youth beating on Jews and homosexuals!”
Obligation statement that Nazis are bad and indoctrinated with hate. Not exactly shocking.
Vance is such a question mark in all this. He’s clearly being groomed to be Trump 2.0. He’ll have the full force of billionaires, Silicon Valley, and old media behind him to make him look legitimate. I just don’t know if the Trump people will bite.
The cult is built around the Fuhrer. His probably imminent death is occurring at a difficult time. There is no clear successor. If Trump himself named one a long time ago, it’s probably Ivanka. These days, who knows what he promised. Hegseth who could have prevented 9/11 with him? He’s lost it
Vance is going to make his move, but will MAGA go with him? He doesn’t have Trump’s charisma, not even close. We have a turnkey fascist state in the making that is about to lose its leader. Also interesting to note is that if Vance is disqualified in any way, the Speaker becomes president.
I’m honestly not sure it matters to MAGA. Trump was critical in teaching Republicans a lesson: be ruthless and nasty, the base LOVES it. They love Trump because he’s unabashedly horrible to anyone and everyone and he allows them to be hateful too. As long as Vance or anyone seeking the (soon to be literal) throne follows that lesson then the base will follow them.
just thankful stephen miller has the charisma of nosferatu because that guy is dedicated to evil where trump just bumbles from evil to evil guided by his narcissism and donors.
The whole idea of Stephen Miller is awful, but the charisma comment actually made me laugh out loud.
glad I could give someone a chortle
For sure. You also may have offended the noble Nosferatu!
MAGA is a Cult of Personality, and there is no #2, no matter how much they wish it.
Most of Trump’s most devoted followers are not political people, they are just racist haters who saw their chance to indulge it with Trump. Another bunch are the delusional religious freaks who literally think he’s the Messiah.
People like that are not going to transfer their devotion to ANYONE else, they will simply opt out of the process, like they generally did before Trump. A few have been indoctrinated, and will remain, but all the fun was with Trump and his crazy comedy routine, so the wind will be out of their sails.
When Trump finally assumes room temperature, the knives are going to come out over there in MAGALand, and the Dems would be wise to just stay out of the way, maybe just a well-placed mumble “Are you going to just take that from him?” Let them tear each other apart, while the Dems lead America down a new path.
The MAGAs will eventually destroy themselves with their virtuosic incompetence, but taking advantage of that is going to take Democratic leadership, which is essentially non-existent right now.
I kind of agree but it’s also in their nature for obedience to authority to appeal to Right Wingers. Maybe they won’t have the same cult like devotion but I doubt they’ll simply “jump ship”
I generally agree, but for a lot of them it won’t be an instant change. They’ll think they are now political followers, and some of them will be. But most will just get bored with politics as usual, even when it’s an authoritarian takeover of their nation.
They were into politics because they think Trump is funny and entertaining. Nobody else following him has that charisma. They’re going to get bored defending Vance and the rest of the jackals, and either fall away, or worse, start to realize that these guys are evil, and get hostile. Nobody else has the Teflon armor that Trump has.
The speaker will not become president unless Vance and Trump become incapacitated at the same time. When just Trump becomes incapacitated, they can choose a new vice president.
Watch them choose Charlie Kirk’s wife
I don’t see her gaining prominence in the most misogynistic movement in America. She’s also such a bad actor she can’t even pretend to care about her husband’s death convincingly, “Don’t forget to buy the ‘my husband was murdered’ merch on the way out.”
Man, the Vance’s of this administration disgust me the most. He’s not indoctrinated, or at least he wasn’t. He’s the quintessential opportunistic asshole.
… Shit, I’m going to say heir apparent
No, he was groomed for this by Peter Thiel who has a vested interest in out-doing Elon Musk. Why else do you think Musk was so heavily involved? There is a lover’s quarrel over who can ruin the US.
If you would have told me in the early 00s that the two assholes who started PayPal were going to be responsible for destroying the republic… Well I guess I probably would have believed you.
I wouldn’t have even believed myself. There is no way I could have ever comprehended one or two insecure man-boys would have enough power to even try. Surely all thase older men and 3 letter agencies would put them in their place.
None of that matters. The next “election” will be discredited and lead to a CW. Western states will break off. That’s if ICE doesn’t kill someone in the next 3 years.
New York? Illinois?
Give me some hope man!
