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    Nah, British are kings of pastries, pies and cakes. Also don’t underestimate British cheeses. Cheddar cheese is the most popular cheese in the world, and where was it made? Britain. Then there’s stuff like Stilton, Wensleydale, and while Somerset Brie is really just a variant of Brie, it’s still really nice.

    That’s not even digging into the various curries that gained their current forms in Britain, mainly by British Indians, who are just as British as any other.

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    I live in the UK. Tonight we had fresh haddock and chips, caught locally. Yesterday we had lamb curry, made with locally sourced lamb. Local produce is abundant, and high quality. How you cook it is up to you, but we also have some of the best chefs in the world.

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        Dans l’arène des imbéciles sans complexe méritant mépris, moqueries et mépris absolu, les Français trôneront toujours sur une tribune d’honneur. Cela est dû à leur provincialisme arrogant et absolu lorsqu’ils se proclament arbitres du goût. Leurs prétentions prétentieuses et élitistes à être la source des meilleurs délices épicuriens du monde ignorent toujours leur plagiat puéril des techniques, des saveurs et du talent artistique de leurs voisins européens, notamment italiens, et de leurs lieux de pillage asiatiques : les Indiens, les Chinois et les Japonais.

        N’oubliez jamais de leur rappeler leur grossièreté inconsciente lorsqu’il est question de goût, d’art et de plaisir de vivre. Sinon, leur pompe étouffera tout.

        Et surtout, faites-le en français. C’est le comble du bonheur que d’insulter les porcs français dans leur propre langue absurde ; c’est vraiment comme s’essuyer le derrière avec de la soie.

        The Quebecois

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        Ha, you’ve no idea what you’re talking about, Amigo. North Sea fish from the waters of Shetland is amazing. Shetland lamb, Scottish Beef. Google it. I suspect it shits all over the drugged up fodder served in American cities :-)

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          I’m not American, man. I’m from a place with actual excellent food.

          I’m also just trolling 😁

          Paradise is a place with Spanish food and British music.

          Hell is a place with Spanish music and British food.

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            Not gonna lie, the food in Spain is tremendous. And yes, historically our recipes have been bland (but with decent produce). Post WW2 staples were dreadful. But we’re a fairly multicultural clubtry now, so Italian, Spanish, Japanese, Thai etc are all on the menu these days.

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    Food in Scotland is great! I had great pies, roast pig, lamb, black pudding, haggis, cakes. It was all great. Hardly any veggies though, if you’re into that kind of thing.

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    I don’t remember where I heard/read it first, but someone said that the British eat like they’re still going through the blitz. I thought that was hilarious, and it seemed true.

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    British food is still made either like the Luftwaffe is flying overhead or we are celebrating the fact that the war is over and we can cook with butter and oil again. There’s nothing in-between.

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    Thanks to successive waves of immigration in the 20th century from India, Bangladesh, the Caribbean, Africa, China and others we actually have a pretty diverse and vibrant food culture.

    Sadly a lot is still dominated by roast dinners and meat and two veg (one of those veg is always potato) but go to any major city and you’ll likely find excellent quality restaurants from pretty much every culture on earth.

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      Thanks to successive waves of immigration in the 20th century from India, Bangladesh, the Caribbean, Africa, China and others we actually have a pretty diverse and vibrant food culture.

      OK, but the idea is that it’s the indigenous food that represents the place in question. The Indian (subcontinent), Caribbean, African, Chinese, etc cuisines count as the food culture of those places, not british food culture.

      Don’t be like germans who are stupidly deluded enough to say “The döner was invented in germany” , when , no, it wasn’t invented in germany, it was invented in the ottoman empire. Also, Hans isn’t out back in the kebab shop busting his ass making that gigantic log of meat, it’s Ahmet. If you want to argue that derived foods that are based on local ingredients are part of the food culture of that place, that’s a more interesting debate that isn’t cut and dry; no one is selling kapsolon made with gouda cheese in İstanbul, nor are they making Tacos al Pastor with pork and pineapples.

      British food is good. Kinda simple, but good. Just not legendary. It’s like a more mid version of itallian food; relies too much on fat and carbs and meat to feel delicious and satisfying, instead of advanced techniques or “just right” spice blends.

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        My point is that those immigrant communities have brought their food and their culture with them and they’ve created fusion dishes that have created a unique food culture, one that has itself been exported back abroad. Like I’ve said elsewhere, most of the dishes people associate with Indian food were actually created in Indian restaurants in Britain.

        If only indigenous food counted, American cuisine is hominy and fry bread and Indian food is lentils.

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          Like I’ve said elsewhere, most of the dishes people associate with Indian food were actually created in Indian restaurants in Britain.

          the absolute arrogance of this statement. Disgusting.

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            Lol, do some research. Tikka Masala, Balti, Korma, Butter Chicken, poppadoms, chutneys, all invented in British Indian restaurants.

            I make no personal claim to any of them so how can it be arrogant at all.

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              Onto what, an Indian guy slightly changing the recipe for a curry leading the brits claiming that any curry served outside of india is based off the tikka masala? Get your own fucking cuisine to export you lazy gits.

              EDIT: Here’s his original bullshit :

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                If you’re not prepared to actually have a civil conversation, kindly fuck off you idiot.

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                  No. The train was an indian invention, the reason countries except for britain and india have trains is because they are adapting to the mass transit ideas that are indian.

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                Quite why you felt the need to attempt to call out my edit is beyond me, since I didn’t remove anything from the original, it’s just clear that critical thinking is somewhat beyond you and so in thought I’d save you the difficulty of doing even 30 seconds of reading and gave you some examples.

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      Sounds like you have had some shit roast dinners. A good roast dinner is amazing. I love all the foreign foods we have access to now as well, but our traditional cooking gets a lot of shit when really it’s just bad cooks. Although we do also have stuff like jellied eels and mushy peas, so I’m not saying it’s all good…

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        I lived in the UK for a long time. My experience there a was that a good roast dinner is quite nice, but difficult to find. And when you do find one, it’s very expensive. This is something I found very odd. In most other countries, popular foods like this tend to be everywhere at a decent price.

        And like you said, the variety of food available in the UK is great. I used to be able to find some pretty obscure ingredients for Asian/Mexican/whatever cuisine in any normal supermarket.

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        I love a roast, it’s one of my favourite meals, but a shit roast is proper shit.

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      I went eating at an Italian restaurant in, I don’t know, somewhere in the Highlands, and I haven’t been aware that it was run by Scottish people, including the kitchen. Our trip had many highlights and was really cool all in all, but that food has to be the deepest trench we had to pass through.

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        Fuck grandma, my roast dinners are an event. Got my roastie game en point, my yorkies are crispy and all the trimmings are standard. Plus the gravy, not to brag, will make you jizz your pants its that good.

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          Totally unrelated, but you made me question if the phrase is supposed to be “en pointe” like ballet or “on point.” after a little research, I’m guessing it’s “on point” but it seems like the etymology could be from ballet potentially, but it sounds like it isn’t likely. At the end of the day, it means exactly the same thing so it doesn’t really matter. I do find it funny you used “en point” instead of “en pointe” though. Halfway between the two I guess. Lol.

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            Honestly, getting it wrong in either sense might be the most British thing I’ve ever done.

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            Honestly, beef wellington isn’t bad or anything but it’s definitely overrated. Don’t bother trying to make one, just find one at a restaurant and wonder what the fuss was about.

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          See, gravy is so easy - meat juice, stock, bit of balsamic - I think how can you fuck this up? Then you get gravy litteraly in any commercial setting, and… urgh…

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    I think the problem is that after the Second World War, Britain’s economy was so shot to hell that folks had to keep eating like the Luftwaffe was still blitzing London. That kept going on long enough to introduce generational trauma into British cuisine.

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          About 65,000 tonnes of munitions were dumped on Britain during WW2 by the Luftwaffe - they did more than break a few windows with all that.

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          They quite literally did, Britain and France nearly merged their economies it was so bad. While the London blitz is the most well known part of the bombing campaign it was actually the end of it, early on the Germans were specifically bombing factories and agricultural infrastructure like say granaries.

          Reminder Great Britain itself isn’t that big while still having a massive population, even while exploiting their colonies they were still massively hurting. Also converting their economy from a wartime one back to a civil one was slow as dick.

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      To me, another be part of it is that the British seem to have an awful penchant for giving delicious things names that sound like Victorian euphemisms for something awful. Spotted dick and toad in the hole sound like they would be ways for Victorians to talk about their STIs, and I’m unsure what exactly Gentleman’s Relish would mean, but it strikes me as some sort of medieval form of punishment on the peasants.

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        Toad in the hole

        My mom made these all the time when I was growing up, but she called them “Egg in a basket” 🥚 🧺. Sounds a lot nicer than “Toad in the hole”. 🐸 🕳️

        I had grown up calling it that it would probably seem normal to me though.

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      folks had to keep eating like the Luftwaffe was still blitzing London

      To be more precise, they had to keep eating like the Kriegsmarine’s U-bootwaffe was still sinking the ships with the food.

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    Sounds like somebody never tried a warm plate of Scraggledy Numps, or a bowl of Thumps in a Bodice, or even a hot cup of Singeshammy Longerjohns in Tabbernickywammelty sauce.

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          So called because the toast in military kitchens were nicknamed shingles, as in roofing tiles. Evocative of bad cooking, which I’m betting was rampant.

          Honestly, shit on a shingle (s.o.s. appropriately) is better than it sounds, even when not referred to under that name. But it’s definitely a comfort food. It’s not good for you, it’s just creamy, beefy, and starch. Inoffensive, cheap, and easy to make in bulk. (Kinda want some now.)

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      I had a hot cup of Singeshammy Longerjohns in Tabbernickywammelty sauce once.

      Never again! I prefer mine cold.