NoneOfUrBusiness

Why do people even cross the channel?

What you see in the article is a minority. Most of them are still pushing for (or silent on) Palestinian genocide.

I mean France wasn’t involved in that shitshow from the start. He’s just trying to get poltical points.

Wait Toyota denotes to Republicans? Aren’t they Japanese?

The number of deaths will increase exponentially (because most of it is starvation and there’s still almost no aid entering the strip), so a few years if nothing changes.

Why is this number so drastically higher than other numbers I’ve seen? I thought it was in the 40 thousands?

There was a Lancet study a while back that said the real number of deaths is likely five times the official number. Now that specific study doesn’t have to be 100% correct, but it’s a plain fact that the official number is a severe understatement, for two reasons:

First, the official number is the number of dead bodies the Gaza Health Ministry physically counted. It’s the number ofphysically confirmed deaths. That’s why they could release those lists of dead people, but it also means that anyone whose body wasn’t taken to a hospital (say, someone starved in the middle of nowhere or died under rubble) won’t be counted. This makes the GHM number the minimum possible number of deaths, not any kind of estimate trying to make up for blind spots.

Second, the Gazan healthcare system collapsed months ago. Most if not all hospitals got Al Shifa’d, and the ones working don’t have gas, electricity or any supplies. This is why the number plateaued (plateau’d???) several months ago. There’s nobody to count the dead, so because of the system I explained above the number is going up.

So anyway, what you’re seeing in the article isn’t that. It’s an estimate trying to make up for the dead who aren’t included in the 40000 the GHM counted. That’s the reason it’s so high.

Okay, so what are these people recommending then? I’m trying to be generous, but they sound like fucking retards.

They’re not recommending anything. I think that’s the point.

You suspect?!

Not in modern America. Americans, for good reason, have a kneejerk negative reaction to the words “war in the middle east”. A war with Iran before November would seal Harris’s fate.

This is funny and I hate it.

Everyone being surprised the US doesn’t want a stable middle East: Insert surprised pikachu face.

Me neither but honestly widespread automation should come with a UBI system. Otherwise people will starve.

Hamas did not lead any peace talks worth a damn

2008? 2012? 2013? These were all serious peace talks where they were unambiguously stiffed by Israel with clear malicious intent.

has only ever consisted of attacks on civilians, usually by firing missiles at settlements in unambiguously Israeli territory (attacking military installations or even settlements in the West Bank would’ve been at leriast somewhat defensible, but that’s not what they’ve been doing)

These attacks serve to cost Israel money needed to run the iron dome, and in large quantities can be a way of exerting political pressure (see: 2021) and causing economic losses by forcing evacuations. It’s not pretty, but it works.

then hiding behind their own civilian population to hinder Israeli retaliation, getting them killed in the process.

I’ve literally never seen evidence for this. And please don’t tell me they put their headquarters in residential areas because literally every military in the world does that. The human shields argument is, when you get down to it, taking issue with the fact that Hamas exists in Gaza, which is… Yeah.

They also did all that from Gaza, an area that Israel de-occupied after the Second Intifada, and which could have served as a positive example of peaceful Palestinian self-government and eventually independence instead of the opposite.

Educate yourself. This is too wrong to correct it all, but let me just point out that the blockade started immediately after the deoccupation and that Gaza is still considered occupied by the UN. Israel never had any intention of allowing peaceful Palestinian existence.

As an Egyptian, fucking yes.

And one hundred other jokes you can tell yourself.

True to an extent but you need economic output to give you weight in the international stage. Otherwise you start getting pushed around by other superpowers.

*Sanctioned but yeah.

Uh… What? I’m saying that Israel being fascist (at least in their treatment of Palestinians) was never temporary. They were fascist when they declared independence, they were fascist in the 50s, they were fascist in the 60s, etc etc until you get to today. Was there ever a point when Israel wasn’t fascist?

I mean fair enough but the reported number is 8. If they underreport what will they say? 10? 11? It’s very rare for Arab militias to score casualties in the double digits against the Israeli military (October 7th was a massive outlier), so I’d be inclined to take the number at face value or expect it to go up by one or two due to fatal injuries.

They’ve been fascist ever since their inception (remember the Nakba?), and they’ll continue being fascist until an ideological revolution takes place at home (unlikely) or they’re made to stop by external forces (inevitable, but will likely take a long time).