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    Leave people in a room with a shock button for 30 minutes and most people will shock themselves. Just saying. I’d do it twice one to test it actually shocks you and another to make sure it actually did.

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        A couple of ways of interpretating this maybe:

        • curiosity of the sensation
        • absolute pathos of just trying to feel something
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              Did you have to take off to get back inside the fenced in area?

              I just held it in my hand when I ran out inatead of wearing it since the electric fence experience was first. Tossed it back across but not far enough. Double zap!

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                A lot of shock collars are remote controlled, not just with the weird invisible fence gimmick.

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                  This. It was a remote with adjustable power levels. The lowest wasn’t too bad but it was an eye-opener at the highest setting. lol

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          absolute pathos of just trying to feel something

          As someone with a high threshold for pain, I’m sorta curious. Not about a “can I take it”, but rather will it make me laugh or actually hurt.

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            Yep, same here, just ‘hrm… i… wonder…’

            I actually did this, tasered myself with my … friend who is a girl but was not my girlfriend… with her self defense contact taser.

            In summary:

            Ho-Lee Fuck.

            Yeah, that shit hurts quite a fucking lot.

            I mean, I was laughing as well, but mostly out of being zapped into, ahem, a state of shock, full adrenaline dump on that much sharp, specific pain.

            Up to that point in my life, I’d never been electro zapped beyond one of those plasma ball things or the ole rub a balloon on your hair thing…

            Yeah, yeah, a loooot more voltage and amps in a taser, do not recommend, unless you just are an actual masochist.

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              One day as a teenager I was screwing around with the cattle prods they sell at the local farm supply store. I pushed the button a few times and nothing happened – no sparks, no noise. Clearly it doesn’t have batteries in it …

              I learned something that day.

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                Not intentionally, but, accidentally once.

                Computer froze, stupidly tried to just unplug it instead of flipping the PSU switch, ended up grabbing the prongs while they were still mostly plugged in.

                That caused my heart to skip a few beats, literally, gave me an arrhythmia for about 15 minutes.

                Again, do not recommend.

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                  I accidentally tried it ones trying to plug something in in the dark. Had my finger between the prongs to feel where the outlet was. Had to use my other hand to unplug the outlet to free it. Was perfectly fine afterwards somehow but also strong recommendation against it.

                  Just curious how they compare 😂

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        Live a little!

        Just wanted to know if it hurt more than an electric fence. Having ADHD bypasses some hesitation when I know it isn’t likely to cause severe injury or death.

        It hurt more than the fence FYI.

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        Not 30 minutes ago I burned myself on my cast iron pan because even though I could tell the handle was warm, I figured surely I could deal with it long enough to scrape out the crumbs. My oven mitt was literally within arms reach and I just… didn’t bother.

        Idk if that helps answer your question but there ya go

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        So? I know it hurts, I’ve zero idea what the feeling is like and would love to experience it.

        Pain is temporary, a curious mind is forever.

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        I imagine it’s like the urge to lick a 9-volt battery or touch the plate after the waitperson says “careful, it’s hot”. It’s unpleasant, they know it’s unpleasant, but they have to check for themselves.

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        I don’t think they are the same species as we.
        Just imagine you are watching a documentary about great apes, and the world kind of starts to make a lot more sense.

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          Viewing other humans this way can lead to some pretty negative thinking, like racism. We’re all humans, with vastly differing cognitive structures, trying to mesh together.

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    I used to have a really barky dog, and there was nothing we could do about it, so we eventually bought one of those shock collars that reacts to loud noise.

    I had a friend come over and say “What’s this? Shock collar?” He picked it up and put it across his own neck, and goes “woof. WOOOF! OOooowww, that fucking hurts.” and put it back down.

    It had never occurred to me to test it on myself, and yet it was a thing he did without even pausing a second.

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      I bought a shock collar and tried it on myself first. I never put it on my dog

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        Yeah those are fucking illegal where I live, as are prong collars and crating for long periods of time. All of those are animal abuse, and negative re-inforcement is a terrible way to train any animal anyway (humans included)

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          This is a tangent but I find it so sad when crate abuse happens to dogs, because my family’s dog loved his crate as a safe space. My dad was really firm that the kids weren’t allowed to cuddle the dog while they were in their crate, because it was important that the crate remained a safe space for the dog. It was cute to see how she would run there when scared by something like thunder and how it really seemed to help her anxiety.

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            I’m glad that worked for you!

            I just think having a cage sitting in my house looks really ugly.

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              We were fortunate in that there was a weirdly shaped nook where a decently large cage could fit naturally. It also helped that it had a large blanket draped over it. I imagine many people would struggle to find space for a sufficiently large cage (depending on how large the dog is), or to make it look unobtrusive.

              I was less arguing in favour of dog cages, more arguing against the misuse of them.

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          I don’t know, I feel like those would be effective in training Trump not to be a pedo. Worth a shot at least. Say 10 years of daily training before we decide on its efficacy.

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        The good ones are adjustable and are not triggered by noise but by remote. The idea is to start with a very small level - something that basically triggers a neck muscle and distracts the dog from deep throating a sock.

        When I first got one for my dog, it was after about three months of one-on-one training, followed by specific training for us humans on the correct way to use an e-collar.

        Fun fact - the vibration is actually more scary/traumatic for your dog because it gives them an external sensation rather than the neck muscle twitch. I accidentally hit vibrate and my dog jumped about a foot in the air (I was mortified).

        I’m fully expecting down votes, but for our rescue we really did use the e-collar as a last resort to try and adjust her learned behavior - stuff that is dangerous for her to do (like swallowing socks and hair ties that she’ll steal from on top of desks). She is utterly loved and pampered - she’s got a bed in every room of the house and gets bougie food, plus all the toys she could ever want.

        We just wanted her to stop and listen when it’s super important.

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          You won’t get a down vote from me.

          Anyone who has tried other methods and had to resort to this because it’s the only thing that worked… That’s respectable effort. Using an adjustable collar and slowly ramping up until it provides the desired effect is also key in my mind.

          After that, as long as you’re not intentionally sitting on the remote until the collar runs out of power, I’m pretty okay with getting things done using the methods that are required to do it (as long as the outcomes are not illegal, that is).

          Lovely dog. I’m glad you were able to provide a good home to them. Take care.

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          Almost the exact same situation here. I tested it on myself and it’s like a TENS unit. It’s been a few years and now we really only use the tone button. It was a lifesaver for training though.

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    I bought one of those flashlights with a built-in taser thing at the end. Thought I’d give one to each of my 4 girls if they were effective, but that of course meant I’d have to try it out. When activated it was definitely intimidating to see and hear. When I did it to myself I was quite disappointed however. It hurt but wasn’t debilitating. It’d likely just piss your attacker off.

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      Many are quite shitty with specs that are mostly fabricated and at best they really need to touch skin and the effects don’t necessarily last long best case. If you are going to GTFO pepper spray is better it’s not foiled by clothes and it gives you distance.

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    As the owner of a stun gun they are scary loud and intimidating. I’ve tried to shock nyself with it, but I couldn’t commit. It’s like trying to do a backflip for the first time with no training.

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    Stun gun or taser? If it shoots barbed electrodes, it might be worth carrying. If it doesn’t, you’re much better off with pepper spray or a knife. Both will have longer lasting effects.

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    and now that you’ve put the idea in my brain…

    i have an electric lighter. I want to zap myself with it to see how much it hurts. I fucking know it will hurt, but now i’m fucking curious.

    I hope you’re happy with yourself.

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      They do hurt, hilariously so. As a teenager I remember a group of friends all zapping each other with one on the ass. That electric spark will go through jeans even and people will jump. (It can however leave a little scorch mark on clothing though, so don’t do it through clothes that aren’t dark colored or that anyone cares about.)

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          I approve of this idea. And if you get drunk and don’t forget about it you can test it then. It stings but not as much as you’d imagine.

          (Not that I’ve gotten drunk and tried that…)

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            Yeah tazers are scary because of the sound. In practice its not that bad, I’ve been shocked worse by electronics. Unless you’re using a police taser. Those hurt way more… I’ve heard from a friend

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    for anyone who wants to experience it: Just buy yourself an EMS device and dial it up. you’ll get the idea. they cost $35

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      But! If you use one of these (or a TENS unit) do not run the electrodes from one extremity to another. Even a small amount of electrical current going across your heart can mess with your cardiac rhythm.

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      The pedantic breakdown between stun guns and tasers belongs somewhere in this comment thread, and it’s probably right around here.

      OOP probably had a stun gun

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        Similar, and some devices can do both. EMS makes muscles contract so it uses higher voltage. But they’re both devices that shoot electricity into an electrode you put on your body.