Until this hits Fox, it’s going to be ignored.
Nice country to be proud living in! Run by a child molester and gang of criminals……….no wonder the whole world wants NOTHING to do with you!
they just flaunt all this shit at us cuz theres nothing we actively can do. they just laugh at us, look at howard nutlick.
they just flaunt all this shit at us cuz theres nothing we actively do. they just laugh at us, look at howard nutlick.
He and his wife were so shocked and horrified by Jeff that Howard kept doing stuff with him for another decade plus after the supposed interaction in 2005 that had them so verklempt:
Lutnick said he and his wife left and decided that he would never be in a room with Epstein again. He further said that he was never with Epstein socially, for business, or through philanthropy.
Oh, what’s this?
Records released in 2026 contradicted the ordinary meaning of that account. They documented attempts to communicate after Epstein’s 2008 conviction, an in person meeting in 2011, a social visit to Little Saint James in 2012, shared participation in an investment, philanthropic and fundraising intersections, and direct correspondence in 2018.
The conservatives made another oopsie-doodle! No big deal, the Murc’s Law Media should probably pivot to some bOtHsIdEs story, for balance, stat…
Be me. Try to do the right thing. Do what society tells me. Work hard. Get hit in the face by the rock of life and am stumbling hard.
Be them. Worst of the worst, crimes against absolutely everyone and everything. Reach the pinnacle of success.
I really think the Germans need to come up with a new word for the contrast I’ve stated.
As a kid I got the idea of job hopping, switching companies every few years for more money. My dad said, ‘if you try to climb too fast you’ll break your neck’.
Turns out… No, the most successful people are absolutely the ones who are so completely full of shit and talk from both sides of their mouth and do what they condemn for everyone else with great gusto.
I’ve been in IT for many years. At least when markets are not like they are right now, moving to another job was absolutely the way to get market wages.
Being the “nice guy” and sticking around for “loyalty to the company” (lol) just fucks over the worker. It’s not unethical to vote with your feet.
I’ve been in situations where people try to manipulate good people into thinking that it is.
No single words, and nothing that seems too interesting in German, but there’s a good Cantonese phrase that encompasses that sentiment:
殺人放火金腰帶，修橋補路無屍骸
shā rén fàng huǒ jīn yāo dài, xiū qiáo bǔ lù wú shī hái
Roughly, “murder and arson earn a gold belt; doing good deeds (lit. building bridges and repairing roads) leaves no corpse (i.e. no one can find your body to bury properly).
Lemmy be like:
“gossip site, Radar, that validates my bias?! Hell yah.
Snopes, The Guardian or other reputable sources? nah fuck off, I can’t be bothered to read more than a headline”
I didn’t see anyone else putting it in the headline, but you can find the same text in the report itself.
The report isn’t accurate.
It straight up says no one knew about Epstein in 2016, but that’s factually wrong.
assaulted at least five women
Do you mean CHILDREN?
assaulted
Do they mean RAPED?
There is a legal difference between sexual assault and rape. Obviously they did both, but just so you know.
Some of them were minors, some of them weren’t
Let’s split the difference in a way that we can all agree.
Five girls.
If we’re going to be non-specific, let’s use the least minimizing term.
Agreed.
We know. Fucking do something about it.
Yeah. Go ahead. Do it. What are you waiting for?
I don’t live there
This is old. I definitely heard this years ago. They either don’t care or more likely they’ll never hear this.
Well … ?
We got him!
If I had a dime for every time I heard that over the years, I’d have about tree fiddy.
“The walls are closing in” video on YouTube… a mash up of all the pundits repeatedly insisting his goose was FINALLY cooked, would be hilarious were it not so unsettling and apropos.
If I had a dime for every time I heard that over the years, I’d have about tree fiddy.
Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened 35 times.
I know, that GIF is from 2017 .
I didn’t want to laugh but you made me.
The average American Trump supporter is a gun toting, neoliberal, bear shooting, death penalty supporting, misogynist, who believe that LGBT people should be stoned to death Old Testament style, a white supremacist, anti-vaccine, climate change denying, anti-evolution, anti- science, flat earth believing, pro-life, anti- intellectual, sanctimonious evangelical Christian, Islamophobic bigot. Chem trail obsessive, xenophobic and a racist. Also ignorant, stupid, perverted and possibly demented.
Your accurate yet unavoidably incomplete list made me reflect on how much the term “pro-life” is inaccurate while also being propaganda spin bullshit. It is literally the term for a policy of the death cult wing of american politics. I know I’m preaching to the choir here, but god damn.
I am a nature lover and animal lover. I come from a conservative redneck-ish family and one very strong correlation throughout my life has been that the more conservative somebody is, the more likely they are to openly brag about how much they would NOT spend money to help their own pets. Or even about how they would shoot them (usually a dog) if they ever did X.
But that is part of a much larger package deal where those people define themselves by the things they hate and activities they avoid.
Why do you think Kristi Noem told that anecdote about murdering a dog and a goat?
To appeal to exactly the sort of “manly” shitheads you are talking about.
Even by her own telling, she’s a total asshole. She killed a goat in a blind rage as part of murdering her dog, and then, instead of being the least bit ashamed, she decided to write that down. As if that’s just normal.
https://southdakotasearchlight.com/2024/05/02/noems-dog-killing-was-bad-but-consider-the-goat/
Those pets should pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
Your accurate yet unavoidably incomplete list made me reflect on how much the term “pro-life” is inaccurate
I like to say “anti-choice”. Because more often than not, they don’t call people like me “pro-choice” they say “pro-abortion” which is weird…
I like to say forced-birthers.
Which means half of them are worse than that
and also apparently very proud of it
I’m not saying this is true or isn’t true.
But the article does credit Katie Johnson as the source and there is reasonable doubt as to whether she even exists. The only person who claims to have spoken to her is a Jerry Springer Story Producer.
What We Know About Origins of Trump Child Rape Allegations
The reason why I say this is I think it’s important to be factual even when making allegations against scum like Trump. Any false rumor we spread is another victory for MAGA and the right. It’s a way for them to convince more people that the left is evil.
That’s not really enough to prove much. There are two paragraphs on that page and one of them seems inaccurate.
Two facts reinforce the credibility of Johnson’s claims. First, at the time of Johnson’s
statements to FBI, Jeffrey Epstein was not yet the infamous public figure he was to become. Thus,
if Johnson had fabricated the incident in an attempt to embarrass Donald Trump politically—as
President Trump’s campaign claimed—it is unclear why she would have made Epstein the primary
and slightly more violent perpetrator in her account
Trump was running for office when this accusation occurred in 2016. And his relationship with Epstein was already known. Remember Epstein had already been in trouble for under age sexual assault prior to 2010.
I want to be clear, I’m not saying Katie Johnson is or isn’t real. I’m just saying it’s not the nail in the coffin that we think it is.
Have you watched Katie Johnson’s testimony? This was before trump was elected. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnib-OORRRo&lis=
What is the source for this video? None of the links in the description include this video.
The link to the court case shows that Katie Johnson was completely unreachable by the court system and letters were repeated returned to sender.
Snopes and the Guardian researched Katie Johnson and neither were able to find credible claims.
I’m not saying she doesn’t exist only that there is reasonable doubt here.
This video was out when I first joined reddit around 2016. Not only was she real, but there is a witness. Also, there are plenty of verifications during that time period. You can say that you don’t believe her, but you can’t say it’s not real.
Mason signed on this week to represent the plaintiff, who filed her complaint as “Jane Doe,” according to court records. He is best known as the defense attorney for Casey Anthony, the Florida woman acquitted on charges of killing her 2-year-old daughter in 2008.
Donald Trump is accused of having forcible sex with the plaintiff while attending a party at the NYC apartment of convicted billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, according to the complaint. The plaintiff also claims that Epstein raped her twice at two such parties.
Two witnesses provided affidavits filed by the plaintiff under the names “Joan Doe” and “Tiffany Doe” that back up the woman’s story.
“Joan Doe” claims that the plaintiff told her about the assaults in 1994–95 shortly after they are alleged to have occurred.
I don’t think it’s fair to say that he’s saying he doesn’t believe her. He’s saying that it’s not easy to prove her existence. Just because you ask for facts and evidence does not mean that you side with the accused. That would mean that the whole justice system sides with the accused at all times because they require facts and evidence in a court of law.
I can say Katie Johnson might not be real because if you had read the article I linked to, you would know that Norm Lubow is the person who actually filed the lawsuit, not Katie Johnson.
Norm Lubow was also pretending to be someone named Al Taylor, who was also aggressively pushing the accusation with journalist.
Even Radar Online, which is linked in the post here is a known gossip site that didn’t believe Katie Johnson story to be credible either.
The gossip site Radar Online published a short story on April 28, 2016, noting the filing, but even it was skeptical, highlighting the fact that the person filing the claim had given apparently bogus contact information, using the address of a foreclosed house whose owner had recently died.
How does that work, filing a lawsuit on someone’s behalf, without the court being able to even verify their existence? That doesn’t make too much sense to me. She would have testify, no? It seems otherwise that’d be a pretty glaring issue with the justice system, if you can just make up people to represent without identifying them?
She would have to testify and the courts couldn’t reach her so the case was dropped. The filer gave a fake address.
Read the article, my dude.
Also I can tell you didn’t read my article because it addresses the sketchy video of the pixelated woman.
What article did you link? You seem to be trying to discredit this video for no reason. A person afraid for their life is usually hard to find.
You replied to me linking a Snopes article on this.
You didn’t even read what you replied to?
You seem to be confused and/or trolling.
if you look at their original comment there is blue text. That is something you can click, genius. It leads to an article. I’ve got no dog in this fight, but you being so obtuse made me need to respond.
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Fact one
- you talked about Snopes and The Guardian, but provided no links
Fact two
- I provided this link https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/mikehayes/attorney-donald-trump-will-have-to-answer-teens-rape-accusat#.gtDdpq85m
Note: It’s to buzzfeed
Fact three
- you think I provided a link to snopes.
Last comment.
Apperently there are logged FBI interviews in the house report of a woman making these claims:
Also I think Katie Johnon is an anonymised victim name so what you are talking about might be a different “claim” than what appears in this document.
Thank you for providing a detailed and skeptical response.
I have fallen victim of sharing/spreading political claims without enough due diligence.
We must ensure that credibility is the most important criteria. Otherwise, even the most spurious claims are used to frame things against other evidence.
Fuck Trump forever, he is a pedophile. We must pursue the highest standards of evidence to compel the Judiciary.
And the rabid knee jerk reactions of a lot of people make them more and more like MAGA. Staying skeptical and asking for evidence is a good thing, that’s how society works. Otherwise we’re just going into actual witchcraft accusations where the accusers are always and by default in the right and beyond reproach, which does not make for a great society to live in.
The answer is simple, release the Epstien files…
100% AGREE.
“explosive report”. World’s slowest moving most inept explosion.
It’s like the explosion in that one Invader Zim episode. Slow as shit, but inevitable.
But hey, maybe I’m just too optimistic 🤷
Fr. This was found months ago by sleuths. What an awful world we live in that it’s now news.
I may be misremebering but I’m pretty sure that this story has been circulating for YEARS. Like at least 3 years cuz I’m pretty sure I saw it on Reddit and I’m part of the API lockdown diaspora. Why is it getting reported on again? Is is being given more credence now? As much as I hate having to think about it, hopefully the new reporting will do some good and Katie will get somw justice.
I think it’s because the government just filed a thing about it, and i think they had to wait until now because they know they’ll have more representatives’ support soon after midterms if Trump let’s midterms happen and doesn’t lose his shit on the country.
Because an election is coming up, not because they actually care.
I mean, it should have stayed in the news the first time until it was followed by the story of how his child molesting ass was removed from office and dealt with. But know the media just skipped right along to the next bullshit that should have resulted in the same thing but didn’t. Just endlessly cycling through horrible shit.
Like watching a storm roll in in Saskatchewan
A rain.
I can’t believe Americans (all institutions, and half of voters) are fine with this. This is fucked up.
We’re not, but he is protected by one of the most well funded military’s in the world. We can’t exactly just walk up to him.
And yet people got so close. Soooo fucking close. We seriously need another Von Stauffenberg scenario.
My stomach turns just reading that headline. Beyond disgusting.
But not enough to actually do anything in the USA.
As much as I want to go full Luigi unfortunately I have mouths to feed and they won’t make it without me
There’s a reason that historically revolutions were started by young men with no children
That is not true whatsoever, but sure.
Sadly, that’s like 99% of us not in the Epstein class. Where are all those real crazies, the organized psychos, when an actual evil pedophile elite is right there?
Cheering them on unfortunately
Exactly. We finally have a tyrannical corrupt government that is headed by a pedophile Russian asset and the 2A crowd is silent or supports it. Think the left should arm up and we should have that revolution the teaparty morons want so bad - but instead of some action movie shit it would just being walking down the street and shooting your pedophile supporting neighbor.
Those people were always on the side of the tyrants. What they meant by tyranny was the tyranny of democracy and rule of law. They don’t like that at all since Lincoln freed the slaves. And after the civil war they just kept waging it by other means, for over a century. They never stopped fighting, and now they are in power, because they know that democracy can be easily corrupted over time with money.
Feat of the left arming up is why they have passed more and more stringent gun laws everywhere. Especially in Canada of late.
And what are you doing about it? What do you think they can do that you can’t?
Every eligible voter who decided that not voting was better than voting for Harris has blood on their hands too.
Non-voters lack deductive reasoning. They fail to understand that if Harris doesn’t win, Trump wins. They can’t grasp that eliminating one option leaves only the alternative.
Perhaps if they banded together, they could get support for a third candidate. It would be difficult but I suppose trying would have been better than refusing to vote against fascism.
They don’t like the rules of the game, so they refused to play
We’ve been through this. It was centrist pushing genocide that lost the election. You keep putting out this fascist trope.
Yes we have been through this and what you said was horse shit, still is.
The more dumb things Trump does the dumber this argument becomes.
Uh no. But just please stay out of elections or politics so we don’t lose again. Just take the back seat and let those of us who are capable of winning elections lead. We’ll carry you, in-spite of your insistence that you damage everyone through your behavior.
Yeah I bet you’re super involved in politics.
Yes. People actually involved in politics understand these things. Recognize your betters.
Uh no. But just please stay out of elections or politics so we don’t lose again. Just take the back seat and let those of us who are capable of winning elections lead. We’ll carry you, in-spite of your insistence that you damage everyone through your behavior.
You aren’t capable of doing the math on a 2 party, 1st past the post election but you’re “capable of winning elections” and you’re gonna “carry” folks? Get the fuck out of here with that delusional bullshit.
You aren’t capable of doing the math on a 2 party,
This is why I keep whipping out the perjoratives. There are single celled creatures showing more reading comprehension then this cult. You lost the fucking election relying on a false assumption of voter behavior and all you are doing is enforcing the demonstrated observation that you dont get how elections work.
You donʻt understand how elections work. Just shut the fuck up and stay the fuck out. This shit is too complicated for you.
I didn’t lose shit. I’m not a rah-rah DNC supporter and I didn’t have shit to do with all the brain dead decisions by the DNC that helped get us to this point. You don’t know me and you can fuck right off with that noise.
Once we have a choice between center right, status quo candidate and far right, authoritarian, racist, rapist, felonious, pedophile, the choice is clear to anyone who isn’t a toddler throwing a tantrum. I hate that the DNC refused to take a moral stand against Palestinean genocide but I’d bet everything I own that there would be more Palestineans alive today under President Harris. Do you think we are better off now that one of our few unequivically anti genocide representatives is being threatend with deportation?
The world is a terrible messy moral minefield and the US political system is absolute shit but reasonable, responsible adults accept reality and try to navigate towards the best possible outcomes. Stop acting like a sullen child. I hope you don’t live in a swing state.
Wishing you the same
This is a truly unhinged take.
If you find reality unhinged, perhaps it’s you that needs hinging.
If Trump and Harris were threatening the same genocide, but Trump had more targets than just Palestine, wouldn’t Harris be the harm reduction choice?
Its fucking irrelevant because Biden and Harris DID sponsor a genocide. Voters don’t fucking vote based on what you decide harm reduction to be. They see two pieces of shit doing a genocide and they say “No.”, which is what they did. The concept of “harm reduction” is fucking astrology for lincoln republicans. Voters don’t fucking vote that way, if you even accept that Harris was “harm reduction” (She was literally in the seat of power and did nothing, so miss me that Harris or Biden were “harm reduction”).
Harm reduction is fucking irrelevant because its not how voters vote. They saw one genocide supporting candidate, rejected them, and the party establishment handed them a second one. That strategy, which depended a, frankly, white supremacist vision of “harm reduction”, lost the fucking election.
So no. The only option was to get the candidate to change their position. There was no other path.
How is Trump not a pro genocide candidate? How does this make sense?
Who was President and vice President, and politically immovable while Israel was flattening Gaza with 2000lb bombs?
Like, I’m going to say this, you won’t understand it, but it is true, and someday you might. So this is for your future self:
You live in a fiction of your own creation. The version of reality you inhabit is a fantasy.
Thanks Neo… So are the bombs dropped any different now?
after everything Trump has done, you’re still holding on to this? lmao bro
go into Palestine and tell them harm reduction would have been worse and you helped vote trump in
Yeah cus we never needed to lose to them. Losing to them was a fucking choice by people who were I bothered by a genocide.
wake up to the reality we have
you don’t have to like it
struggle all you want to try to make it better
but don’t fucking lie to yoursels
That right-wing/russian/tankie propaganda really did a number to leftist’s critical thinking skills and turned you into single issue (non)voters.
It’s sad to see.
No it’s understanding the very basic mechanics of how elections work, something you can count on those who will reliably caucus with fascists to perpetually misunderstand because white supremacist requires them to not understand.
When leftists fail to have a single viable candidate again and the choices are between Tucker Carlson and Gavin Newsom you guys are going to scream both sides are the same again and throw the election to Tucker.
By calling liberals fascist you’re doing the real fascists a favor by normalizing it.
The only things you’ll be remembered for will be defending a genocide to such an extent you were willing to sacrifice an election for it.
Yeah anyone who doesn’t bow down to your particular version of reality is a genocidal pedophile rapist transphobe. We’ve heard it before, you’re just MAGA in a rainbow colored keffiyeh, it’s not about politics, it’s about you, your narcissism, and a pathological need to project moral superiority. You’re just as much of a threat to democracy as MAGA is, it’s the same mechanism, it’s the same fundamental fascism, you just happened to hop on another bus.
Better than tanking a smart woman of color’s chance to make the world a better place because I fell for some right-wing/russian/tankie propaganda.
She was a fucking cop who supported Israeli genocide. She literally would have been better than trump, for sure. Don’t get me wrong. But what the fuck man. You’re gonna blame people who couldn’t vote for genocide cop for the fact that pedo realtor is president?
Absolutely, funny how you remove genocide from Trump’s title he’s been rather enthusiastic about it.
And sure you can call a district attorney a cop if you want to, but what do you call the man that’s set up his own secret police force to brutalize the populace?
Yes.
An ahistorical presentation of events.
Only to those with their heads so far up their asses that they’re staring at their own tonsils.
Nonsense
Leftists need to spend some time studying reality along with their theory.
The left has been usurped by adolescent culture warriors who don’t give a shit about anything except being outraged about their flavor of the month identities not being taken seriously. It’s vile, it doesn’t belong to us, they just latched on and now we can’t get rid of them. If I was conspiratorial I’d say it’s a psyop because they’ve done nothing but harm to the real left, to the workers, to the proletariat, to actual humanitarian change, it’s all performative purity testing bullshit.
It’s like a little club they made for themselves, more like being part of a band fanclub or console fanboys than having anything to do with actual politics and creating an equitable society for all. It’s fucking ridiculous.
The horror of realizing this many people are ok with it is really hard to deal with. I never want to be around other people again.
Shit like this is why I’m afraid to try dating. There are so many rapists, abusers, and potential murderers out there
don’t date outside of your circles of interest. good chance you’d land on someone like you, if you like the same things.
Finding a good one is like winning the lottery. :( I hope you find your person eventually.
Thanks
We aren’t but we are slaves in a police state
80 million sick fucks as well as all the people registered to vote that refuse to all because they think that women shouldn’t be leaders… in addition to all the filthy scum who think that compromise is treason when in reality aiding nazi filth is treason. whether that aid is refusing to vote, voting for republikkkans, or wasting votes on independents who can’t even make a name let alone getting votes… it’s all aiding nazi filth.
Yeah, but she is BROWN. THE WORST CRIME IMAGINABLE!
/s of course
It shows how important christianity is to 2/3 of America— as in not at all. It’s why I can never take christian values seriously again because it’s obviously just another club with personal benefits for the people who join. Living the teachings of Christ is completely voluntary.
living the values and teachings of old white men claiming they heard god speak and who want women and children to be sex slaves is not religion. is a control mechanism that has raped and butchered people for 2000 years, while convincing delusional nutjobs who can only act right under the threat of damnation, that they are good people.
There is no hate quite like Christian love.
We’re Americans. We own guns.
The problem is there are no meaningful citizen’s militias that aren’t themselves Nazis.
The left allowed itself to be disarmed for the purpose of purity signaling and the result is a gross lack of tribal knowledge with regards to engaging in protracted violence.
What left? There is no left here.
aw shit i guess i don’t exist anymore because someone on lemmy thinks all american leftists are just liberals so they can get more updoots by performatively conflating a leftist demographic with leftist politicians currently in government in response to someone who doesn’t know the difference between a leftist and a liberal.
No, it’s just that you mostly exist in some bubble online.
Trump’s approval rating is 18 points underwater, which is his lowest ever and like 16 points below where Bush was after Hurricane Katrina. He has fallen fast. Will be interesting to see whether our institutions can start to right themselves with Trump’s political power so diminished
They just don’t think it’s true. Not making excuses for them or anything here. But they are not accepting this as fact and then saying “yeah I’m okay with that.”
If you want to nail them for something it’s their head-in-the-sand approach to facts and evidence, not where they draw the line morally.
I personally don’t know that the witness in the story is credible or actually even real. There is real evidence to believe she was a made up by Jerry Spring producer Norm Lubow.
No one else has ever seen her in person. Once she was supposed to have an in person interview but canceled it and would only have a phone call instead.
I’m not saying I don’t think Trump is guilty of some really heinous shit, just that this specific witness doesn’t seem to be real.
No reasonable person is enthusiastic to go public with rape allegations against Trump, go on TV and talk about them, etc. and get MAGA death threats for the rest of their life and go down in history for it. I would not consider remaining private as credibility points either way. That’s like saying someone is guilty because they plead the 5th.
The privacy part doesn’t bother me. it’s the Jerry Springer producer involvement. His whole job was to make up stories for the show. I’m not saying he is or isn’t lying but because he is such an untrustworthy person, the chance for doubt becomes significantly higher.
Are you talking about Katie Johnson? The article links to legal documents detailing her complaint to the FBI.
Is there anything more you can do to falsify that report than casually mention some Jerry Springer producer?
The article in the link also says that no one knew about Epstein when Katie Johnson made her complaint in 2016 but that is false.
The article also neglects to mention how much Jerry Springer producer was involved in.
What We Know About Origins of Trump Child Rape Allegations
Please note, I am not defending Trump or arguing over any of the other accusers.
My issue is just that a lot of people keep using Katie Johnson’s testimony as an open and shut case, ignoring all the problems with that accusation to back up their own wish for Trump to be a pedophile.
Exactly, he bragged about assaulting women and they said that’s for them!
Well it’s a tabloid writing about a ‘chilling accusation!’ about something 30 years ago
What would you do?
Umm… for starters, not vote for parties led by rapist pedophiles?
What if the candidate you support gets accused in such a way?
He can go to prison then where he belongs.
What if you get accused in such a way?
I won’t be. But I guess you’d be quite f’d if they accused you. I can empathize a tiny bit (not really).
Is there a mountain of photographic evidence of them hanging out with notorious child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein and calling them quote best friend" quote in multiple handwritten letters with crude silhouettes of children’s naked bodies?
Children’s naked bodies?
What are you even trying to say? Democratic candidates are routinely sidelined by accusations of sexual impropriety.
Routinely? With things like this?
@guycls@lemmy.world I’ve got this, one sec.
for starters, not vote for parties led by rapist pedophiles
Pretty sure that covers things.
That reminds me of the crowd in /r/thedonald where they were all getting riled up they were going to round up all the pedos immediately if they won
Ah, yes, /r/thedonald. Clearly the subreddit that would most accurately represent the fediverse.
Then I would withdraw support
you wouldn’t look for evidence first? american fash has been calling every liberal a pedo for a decade now at least, and it’s always been projection.
Are you under the impression this is the sole piece of evidence that Trump is a nonce?
I wouldn’t really call this ‘evidence’
Release the Epstein files.
Half of voters are not fine with this.
Most think the same as you. Trump’s campaign promises were no war and releasing the Epstein files after Biden did absolutely nothing and sat on them for four years.
We’ve been betrayed by bOtH pArTiEs over the last eight years (and before that, for that matter)… because they’re BoTh all over the Epstein files.
We don’t have a “No Epstein” party in the USA, that is not allowed. We just have two corrupt shit parties.
(I’m not making random claims, either. We do have some information, like flight logs. Democrats and Republicans found common ground somehow and fucking loved that plane and the young girls on it).
Hey I just wanted to say that people like you are the reason that fat orange fuck is killing millions of children, go fuck yourself the parties are nothing alike.
Exactly this. It’s amazing how we start seeing the “both parties” rhetoric right around election seasons. But then they vanish afterwards, when they help get the vile fucks elected. It’s honestly astounding how people see clear evidence of the orange slimeball hurting children, and go “oh but the other side is just better at hiding it, so I might as well keep voting for the orange slimeball instead.” It’s the most asinine, cretinous, sophomoric line of reasoning imaginable.
Biden didn’t release them because there was an ongoing investigation keeping them sealed. Trump ended the investigation as part of his coverup. Good job preempting the fUnNy tExT though.
Who are you voting for?
Lits the democrats that argued over who gets t rape a 13 year old.
Honestly, probably a non zero amount, but I can assure you that the dem voters would actually care if it came out.
The Weiner scandal was actually a scandal and he served time. I’m not willing to go to bat for dem politicians (though I’d pick a random D over a random R politician any day), but I’ll definitely back dem voters on the whole for actually having some degree of standards or morals, which does generally lead to accountability.
I think that’s the main difference, because even if Rs and I disagreed, if they actually had morals we would not have found ourselves here. A bunch of Rs referred to Trump as a Hitler-like fascist and then bent the knee because the R voters didn’t care. It’s not that our politicians are somehow morally superior, though on the whole they definitely are, it’s that the actual base cares about the things they say they care about.
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-Republicans and their media collaborators.
Fucking sick. Millions of people voted for this sick fuck and they are probably voting for him again right now knowing he did this
they are probably voting for him again right now
He’s not up for re-election and not on the ballot. Only a subset of Congress is. A Democratic majority in Congress would not mean we get a new president, nor does it make it possible to impeach and remove the current one. Also, neither snap elections nor no-confidence votes are a thing here.
It seems a lot of non-US people watching from a distance have higher hopes than they should about the significance of this midterm election, due to not really understanding how the US system works and/or thinking it’s a parlimentary system like a normal modern democracy.
Which is why the European / Canadian “OMG dO sOmEtHiNg you pussies!!! No…? Guess you’re all fine with fascism then…!” commenters are especially irritating because there’s really only one way he doesn’t stay in office until Jan 2029, and that’s already been tried unsuccessfully, and just gets you president Vance anyway. Or president Johnson, if you managed a two-for one. A different president before 2029 is not a possible outcome of protesting- any amount of protesting. Those “No Kings” events are just cargo-cult civil disobedience for liberal boomers to virtue signal at. They have no demands to make, no credible threat of escalation if the demands are ignored, and no reason for the regime to take them seriously.
Voting Republican in the midterms is voting for his enablers which is not much better.
Voting republican in this election is voting for Trump in spirit, it is showing continued support. Everyone knows this is what people mean when they talk about voting for or against Trump in this election. The only exception I would allow is if they’re voting for a really good local republican candidate who isn’t aligned with Trump
It’s not in spirit voting Republican is voting for Trump is voting for pedophiles is voting for corruption.
Never let Republicans lose the stench of orange pedo
Yup, unironically, Republicans need to be bullied and treated like shit. Being associated with the Republican Party should come with the very same stigmas being a child rapist comes with.
Not going ham on Republicans is implicit approval of their actions, imo. In the same way of letting a Nazi sit at your table, or join your group.
I disowned all the Republicans I knew two years ago, and never looked back. Being in Utah, though, means there’s not a lot of people still left in my life. Oh well, the cost of having principles, right?
I disagree with many other things you said but this part is right on.
Those “No Kings” events are just cargo-cult civil disobedience for liberal boomers to virtue signal at. They have no demands to make, no credible threat of escalation if the demands are ignored, and no reason for the regime to take them seriously.
Only correction is that they’re not boomer events. Come on. Boomers are not leaving the house at this point.
I agree with most of your points except that a large enough display of civil disobedience should instigate change. If people are willing to literally block the streets, strike and shut down the economy in enough major cities, changes will be made. The Short list of demands should be made clear and begin with impeach, arrest, and prosecute pedophile Trump.
The “large enough display of civil disobedience” would just be outright civil war. We already know that Republican voters are happy to accept the razing of “Liberal hellholes” (every major city in the country) based on the messaging around Seattle and Portland in 2020.
Technically speaking if enough seats in Congress flipped to Democrats they could push an impeachment and prosecution through but that still hinges on the Executive and Judicial branches cooperating, and then there’s the military to consider. What we really need is a bunch of agricultural states to change so we can make some Constitutional Amendments but they’ve all been gerrymandered to fuck so that’s not a realistic goal either.
You outnumber the police and you’re armed to the teeth. “The US military would just crush the population” argument is not particularly convincing either. You assume the military is some perfectly unified, ruthlessly efficient machine, which doesn’t describe the US military in foreign wars, let alone a domestic one.
Even the shitty GOP is unwilling to tolerate prolonged ground wars, casualties, recruitment problems, political backlash, and occupations of populations that are actually hostile to it. Yet somehow we are supposed to believe that the same institution would suddenly function flawlessly whe turned against your own citizens? The assumption that everyone would simply follow orders indefinitely while Americans were being killed in huge numbers is absurd. There’s a reason you haven’t sent soldiers in to occupy Tehran.
Eventually they would run into a very simple problem- if armed resistance was genuinely widespread, half-measures would not settle it. It would either have to escalate to levels of violence sufficient to kill Americans on an enormous scale, potentially millions, or it would have to back down / simply stop functioning. You also have the fact that your military has never been more poorly managed than it is right now.
Yes, the US military has vastly more firepower than civilians. Congratulations. Nobody disputes that. The question is whether it could politically, institutionally, and psychologically use that firepower against its own population on the scale necessary to win such a conflict- and if it’s your position that your own military WOULD do that to you, and that is why you are choosing not to act? Great- then your political morality is just one in which the government’s entitlement to your obedience increases in direct proportion to how willing it is to fucking kill you.
Any Republican who crosses Trump gets ousted. Just look at Massie.
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