I’m depressed and I wanna listen to music… 🥲
Its just fearmongering right?
I don’t max the volume, just turn it high enough to hear it, if I used speakers, I’d also turn it so that my ears detect the “same volume” so I don’t get why headphones is worse? Literally the same volume.
Also privacy, I don’t want others to know what I’m listening, the fuck lol.
Using headphones is more polite since you’re not forcing it upon others.
Don’t listen to her.
Let her believe.
It’s a bunch of crap. In fact, modern headphones can if anything help protect your hearing.
The thing that damages your hearing is sound level. Doesn’t matter if it’s from a speaker to inches away or 20 ft away, what matters is the sound pressure level that arrives at your eardrum.
The problem with headphones is many people turn them up to drown out outside noise. To get it loud enough that you actually can’t hear the surrounding noise, it’s pretty loud. That is what causes hearing damage, not the fact that it is headphones. It would be no different if you put speakers and turned it up loud enough to drown out the noise.
I say modern headphones can help because a lot of modern headphones have noise canceling. Thus, reducing the ambient noise level means you don’t feel a need to turn up the volume as high.
I remember an Iron Man novel that suggested Tony had poor hearing because he played heavy metal in his helmet while flying from place to place.
Again, it would be about the volume, not just having music in a helmet.
Tony’s type A personality may suggest he was in fact listening to it too loud.
Maybe instead of listening to mom, listen to an ENT or hearing professional. Better yet, look up scientific resources.
I love headphones. I have quite a few very good pairs. And headphone amps. And portable headphone amps. Ive been in the hobby for about 10 years now, maybe a bit more. My hearing is still excellent (according to hearing tests I’ve had). Aside from my tinnitus, which ive had since I was a kid. Just be mindful of the volume levels.
Complete fear mongering. If you listen to any sound too loud from any source you can get hearing damage, but there’s no reason you need to listen to music too loud with headphones. To the contrary since headphones help block outside sounds (especially with modern noise cancelling headphones,) you can actually turn the music down and hear it just fine.
It’s a myth that headphones cause more ear damage than speakers.
95dBs measured at the eardrum are 95dBs independently if the source is 10m away or inside your ear canal.
Now most people tend to blast louder on headphones than they do on speakers, I tend to do the opposite, so in my case speakers cause more damage.
If you “just turn it high enough to hear it” then there’s no damage. In fact if you listened to speakers you would have to probably turn it louder to overcome the environment noise than you do on headphones that muffle outside noise.
If you search “OSHA dB chart” you should get a basic idea of how loud is loud, note than ear damage is cumulative, so it’s OK to blast super loud for few minutes a day, on the other hand if you listen to music all day you need to play at lower levels.
Also, listen to your body, if after a listening session you hear tinnitus (ringing in your ears), then it’s too loud. (That doesn’t mean it’s OK just because you don’t hear ringing)
I usually listen around 100dB(A) but I don’t recommend it.
100 db is crazy lol. That’s definitely enough to cause hearing damage if regular
Been doing it for almost 30 years. I still have better and more precise hearing than most.
However
Most people in the “headphones bad”-crowd fail to understand that it’s the volume and not the medium at fault. I’ve always been very afraid of permanent damage to my senses, ears and eyes in particular, so as much as I love head banging to loud music, I ensure it’s not too loud. I’m the kind of person who brings earplugs to a concert (the type that dampens the audio without distorting it). I rarely need them, but I keep them with me just in case.
Headphones are absolutely fine. I tend to crank music and have 0 loss in hearing over the last 10 years (we get annual hearing tests at work for OSHA). I do have a significant hearing loss in one ear but that is genetics and hasn’t gotten worse in 3 decades of using headphones.
Just don’t turn it up so loud it hurts, and once you find an initial good volume don’t turn it up later. You acclimate to the sound level so it seems quieter.
Headphones don’t make you go deaf, it’s the volume level. Just keep the volume low and your hearing will be fine.
Another crucial part is duration. You can still damage your hearing if you’re listening to something at 70 decibels. For example, if you were listening to something that loud all day long for months, . In fact you could probably change your hearing with things even quieter than that if you’re constantly hearing it for long durations.
If you have your headphones in and you’re constantly listening to something for hours on end everyday, chances are, you are causing changes to your hearing. It will start as hearing fatigue. And if you keep pressing, eventually you’ll start to hear a mild ringing in your ears that may never go away. Keep pressing even further, yeesh… I don’t think it’s advisable to listen to anything constantly for months on end, no matter how quiet.
Please take breaks that last hours. If you want to maximize listening during the waking hours, then it’s probably a good idea to sleep with ear plugs if you can. It’s also good idea to take a day off, or even a week, if you can. Sometimes even take a month off.
I have been obsessed with listening to new music for three decades, I’ve also been in plenty of bands, it took quite a few shows. I am now beginning to pay the price of my lack of care towards protecting my hearing.
Don’t be like me; protect your hearing!!
The message is good, but I’m gonna guess that your tinnitus is much more likely due to being in bands, presumably with them being loud on stage. I’ve never heard of tinnitus originating from quiet listening at home.
Not even low, just not maxed out. I got a pair of cheap KZ’s in ear guys that I use for yardwork. And since I’ve started using them I’ve noticed the frequency of tinnitus events I have had fallen sharply.
If I’m having a bad tinnitus day I put on a set of headphones and use a pink/brown noise generator, some will sweep between the two or other colours as well. An hour or so of that will usually soothe it out for a good while.
Depends entirely on the volume and time spent at that volume.
Just using headphones in general? No.
As someone who has had tinnitus for nearly 30 years, PLEASE take care of your ears. Headphones don’t always mean T, but if you listen loud enough, you WILL get T. Respect ear health.
Do you still have it?
I do, yes. I got it as a young kid and now I’m in my late 30s
Tinnitus has no cure and is generally a permanent condition, so my guess is yes.
i want to try tongue electro shock therapy
Most of often than not, yes, but some people magically recovered from tinnitus suddenly after several years, although this is not the norm.
Yep, me too. I had a type of headphones way back when, one they don’t build anymore because it brings the speaker membrane too close to your inner ear. That, the kind of music I liked to listen to, and many loud live concerts…
What are you talking about. It has nothing to do with the speaker being too close to your ear, its because they were an awful design. Regular earbuds get the driver just as close and are still made, but arent very popular. The style has trended more towards in ear monitors because they seal your ear canal and get better bass. Due to the sealing IEMs are probably worse for your ears if you crank the volume but you probably don’t need to crank them as loud since they provide some passive noise cancellation.
I could never use regular earbuds. To me the above mentioned was a far superior design.
Fucking memories! I had these headphones and the bar style portable fm radio with the same color scheme. I’m so happy my tinnitus is pretty limited.
Yeah I’m hearing impaired on my left ear. Probably from sitting with headphones half off, playing world of warcraft and listening to loud music all day every day back in the day. I wouldn’t recommend it. I’m lucky in that it isn’t entirely gone, but I’d be lying if I said that it hasn’t affected my life.
I used to mow lawns growing up. Would listen to headphones to drown out the mower. 30 years later I essentially hear this 24/7: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D96_1AsUajA My wife (and everyone else who knows me) knows my general hearing is bad, but not horribly so, and much worse in noisy situations. There are times when I don’t hear that tone as much, but it’s there every morning when I wake up and it’s quiet.
Also, at max volume, I had to hold the phone speaker on my ear to make sure that video was even making a noise.
Frequencies above 6k-7k have disappeared/are always there.
Do yourself a favor and take advantage of noise-canceling headphones so you can keep the volume down.
I often take long walks through a busy city, and in-ear headphones are a godsend. With on-ear ones, I have to turn the podcasts off at high-traffic crosswalks around here, for fear of blowing out what’s remaining of my aging ears.
Sounds like what someone says who wants to know and control what you’re listening to
Bruh they really have no right to judge. They watch short-form videos on WeChat in the livingroom on loudspeakers. Weird skits with overdramatized acting. WTF are they even watching. Its like tik-tok but more boomer and cringy.
If you have to use headphones, use soundcancelling like AirPods Pro or whatever else that has noise-canxelling and set your phone to use headphone safety where it reduces the maximum volume to as much as it can
