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    Hmm, would this work with any clear material so you could see the ants as they suffer? I mean, for uhhh… science?

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      you can never see them “suffer”

      “Ants are not subjected to feeling the same pain humans do. They can recognize damage and respond to it, but they don’t genuinely feel pain the same way people do”

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        Couldn’t you apply that logic to literally all animals including humans? Pain is just a sensation to make us respond to damage, the suffering part is entierly subjective and no one can be sure any of the other humans even are capable of it, we just assume its the case based on personal experience and empathy.

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          Nature is very cruel, but not so evil to evolve suffering in animals who don’t have the capacity to learn from it.

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            Pain and pleasure are the greatest survival teachers, I’d expect them to be the basest feelings a living thing can have.

            Saying some creatures don’t feel pain just because their physiology is different is like how we were taught that animals couldn’t think back in the 20th century.

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      You’d pick up a lot of sand… Normally you’d use a metal like aluminum. You can sandblast that clean.

      But clear means epoxy. That stuff doesn’t hold up very well under sandblasting. It can be done, but expect mistakes.

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    Yeah, hearing about this technique for the first time was a ride. Like, yeah, it’s kind of cool? But also, you’re doing a genocide.

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      Invasive ants can overwhelm and genocide native ants.

      A lot of the castings I’ve seen have specifically been done on invasive ants for this reason.

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      you’re doing a genocide

      Yes, if you are dumb about it. Actual scientists doing this use abandoned colonies or move the colony first.

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        So are humans. We still call mass killings of humans a genocide. There’s no really good reason to make an exception for ants.

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          You don’t think it cheapens the word “genocide” just a bit to lump an ant hill cast and the holocaust under the same umbrella term?

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            Technically it’s the same, but if we want to apply emotion to human genocide, then what word would we alternatively use to describe eradicating a colony of beings we don’t care enough about?

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            I see you’re point, I was a bit hasty when saying there’s no good reason to make an exception.

            I still do not agree with the argument that ‘Ants are a superorganism, so it’s not really a genocide’. For humans it’s a genocide, because we’re trying to describe a social crime within humanity. For everything else, extermination is communicating the same thing, but generically.

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            The term was literally coined in an analysis of human social interaction by Herbert Spencer in his book “Principles of Sociology”. The term was created to describe humanity.

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                You’re carrying out a similar fallacy by claiming use of the term in its original field is illigitimate in this argument. On top of that, right on the wikipedia page for Eusociality, it states that biologists such as E.O. Wilson have previously argued that humans are weakly eusocial, weakening your whole argument in the first place.

                The concept of humans as super-organisms is explored in both sociology and biology, and i’d argue that that means humans fit the bill. Whatever no-true-Scotsman version you’ve been gate keeping with doesn’t even fully agree with the field you’re supposedly arguing on the behalf of.

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    Could be worse. Could be the guy filling them with copper or whatever molten metal it was on YT.

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      I would probably prefer getting almost instantly fried by molten hot metal than slowly suffucate in liquid cement

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        I think I remember that setting concrete has an exothermic reaction going on so you could be cooked as you suffocate.

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        I suspect the amount of the nest that gets affected is larger. (Technically, IIRC theyre mostly there to exterminate the ants, it’s just becoming art in the process.!

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      Probably a different instance to the one you’re thinking, but I have not forgotten that TechRax video of him pouring molten aluminum onto live hissing cockroaches. I don’t even know why he added the cockroaches, the subject of the video was the iPhone 6 vs molten aluminum.

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    I wonder what kind of concrete you’d use because I feel like any type I can think of would be too brittle and would break apart during even the most careful excavation.

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        Not always.

        I would imagine for any significantly sized colony, molten metal would cool down and solidify too fast to cover everywhere; whereas concrete can stay liquid long enough to permeate everywhere.

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          The moisture would get sucked out of the concrete by the earth, and it’s not flowable that well. If you’ve made it like soup, it’s lost most of its strength when it cures already.

          A 1/2 hole in plywood gets filled by grout pretty fast, a dirt ant tunnel I would be surprised if it went more than a foot to be honest.

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            It seems implausible to me, too (as an engineer), but the article says what it says. I guess they must be using tiny paint brushes like an archeological dig in order to excavate it without destroying it.

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    It’s “what it looks like” or “how it looks”, never “how it looks like”. That’s as dumb as “what it looks”, which I’m sure most people understand isn’t correct.
    It’s one thing to make that mistake in a random comment, but in your fucking web comic? Seriously?