I feel like the armour would slow the lion down more as they’re not used to wearing anything.
Ah the old
RedditLemmy switcharoo.Hold my helm, I’m go… wait, where’s the thing?
Maybe you’re at the bottom. I don’t know if I’ve seen it done before on here.
Hahaha that must be it.
Lions are pretty strong, right? While the armor could protect from being mauled or clawed, the impact of those hits would add up. That’s why things like the mace and other blunt instruments came to be.
And given the title and lack of comma, the lion in full armor is a given, easily.
Is a weapon implied?
If so, the knight. People have killed lions with far less. You know humanity has been in Africa all along, right? (Edit: And they were native elsewhere surprisingly recently, like, some of the ones at Roman gladiatorial games would have been local-ish)
If not, it’s more of an even match. The knight has to slowly punch or grapple the lion to death, while the lion probably has to manage to get an unshakeable grasp on a limb. I’m kinda liking the lion, but this being a trained knight I might be totally wrong.
The knight has a submachine gun.
That only works underwater tho!
And thus it was, the life-and-death struggle between man and beast. The majestic lion, and the knight wearing full plate mail holding a submachine gun in a bucket of water.
The knight keeps an eye on the lion, builds a domicile, raises a family and makes sure his family is wary, the lion keeps finding easier game mostly injured animals breaking from the herd. The lion dies from old age, then so does the knight. We know how this ends. With the knights descendants eventually having to preserve land for the lions and protect them from humans slaughtering all of the lions for fun. The match ends when humanity accelerates the earth into another ice age and is to worried about its own people to think preserving lions would be a good use of their food supplies. Lions go extinct, humans lose a lot… But get a second chance.
100% the knight.
Steel armor is quite resistant, and the lion doesn’t have anything that could realistically penetrate it or blunt it.
Even without weapon once they are entangled into a fight there’s two outcomes, the lion runs away once it notices it’s fighting a moving rock. Or the lion gets tired, once tired the human can beat it to death even without a weapon. Humans are famous for their resistance, we have more stamina for long fights and the presence of an armor will make the fight long.
If the human have a weapon there isn’t even a contest.
You are asking this question like its hipotetical, but it actualy happened in history many times.
It depends does knight have some kind of veapon or not. If not he is more hopless than antilope.
If it does than what kind of veapon? With spear he have a chance because people were surviving lion atacks with spear.
But know this lion is heavy animal that can run like a wind and jump like squirl. They are strong.
Man doesnt have much chance…
It’s “squeereœuille”, not squirl. /s
Thank you wery much am blessed with knovledge now!
Depends on the “full armor”. Full plate? The knight can probably win even without a weapon, as the gauntlets will make his punches more dangerous. Chainmail + gambeson would probably protect the knight enough, but any exposed parts, especially the neck, would make the fight super dangerous for the human.
Keep in mind that certain blunt strikes, or even the strength of the lion’s bite, can hurt or even disable a limb, even if it’s protected with armor, be it plate or chainmail (the gambeson helps protect against these strikes). Ever seen how dogs can grab a person’s arm and twist it hard? Now imagine that dog weighs 150kg and it should be pretty clear how you can still get fucked. Also, the lion will likely run and pounce, taking down the knight who will be at a disadvantage. Humans are strong, but lions are waaaaaay stronger.
Almost certainly the lion, this isn’t an anime where a knight can just casually bisect a 800lbs raging bag of muscle with the flick of their wrist and a marketing beam energy swipe. The lion would absolutely knock down, crush, and maul even if it couldn’t penetrate armor right away. Like, id give it a 1/50 chance of striking a lucky blow as the lion plunges or if you’re smart you might be able to come out alive by going limp and playing dead.
Trivial with the weapon the knight should be using: a spear or polearm.
The lion lacks a can opener.
But the setting was a fight to death, therefore we have to assume that the lion actually wants to kill, not just eat.
So the lion strikes once, and the knight goes down immediately from the blow. Then it’s over because of the immobility caused by the full armor.
You can absolutely get back up while wearing a suit of armour.
Yes, but only like an old man. Not like fighter who survives.
Not sure you know what you’re talking about.
It’s worth mentioning there’s different kinds of full plate armour, too. It’s going to be harder to move around in something designed for mounted jousting, with hard impacts and strict rules, than something made for actual infantry use. That being said, you can obviously jump up on a horse even in jousting armour, and this is an actual knight who we can assume is in excellent physical condition and has a lifetime of practice.
Contrary to popular belief, a set of full plate does not slow you down or limit your mobility at all. If it did it would not have been so widely adopted.
I don’t know your physical shape.
It would slow me down terribly.Well the post says “knight in full armor,” implying a person in good shape.
It’s a reasonable assumption but there was a… French? king who survived a battlefield gut wound because the knife stuck in his stomach to the hilt didn’t make it through the fat.
Knights were nobility by definition, and it was precisely as plate became a reality that conditioning standards were dropping.
Of course they also brings up that what a “knights full armor” is varies widely by time and place
By necessity the hands and feet of plate armor are thinner and more flexible. If a lion was able to get a hand or a foot in its mouth, it’s game over for the knight. They have more than enough bite force to crush the armor and the body part inside.
One big benefit of the plate armor when facing a lion is that the armor was usually shaped to deflect and defend against strikes to the head and neck. Lions usually dispatch their prey by crushing the throat and asphyxiating them. The armor should be a good defense against such attacks.
What I think it comes down to is terrain. If the lion can ambush the knight, the knight will be knocked down before they can bring any weapons to bear effectively. From there, their armor will only make their demise slower and more agonizing. If there is no cover and the knight sees the lion coming, they may be able to keep the lion at bay with weapon swipes. This gives the knight the opportunity for a killing blow or for multiple strikes to make the lion retreat. The knight just has to hope the lion doesn’t charge regardless of potential harm because then it’s just the first scenario again.
If, however you shove your arm down it’s throat to the shoulder, your pauldrons might give you some protection, and the arm and hand can now choke the lion from the inside. It’s gonna try to claw you back out, but hopefully it doesn’t gain a purchase, and then the fight is over in less than 5 minutes.
This is actually what I’ve heard suggested, without the armor, to survive a Jaguar attack in South America
Your arm would be destroyed from the bites, armored or not.
You might survive, but your arm wouldn’t and you’d need medical attention to prevent death from blood loss or crush syndrome.
Yeah, I assume the arm is sacrificial. Hopefully the knight has tourniquets
A lion is 2-3 times as large as a Jaguar though. There is a good chance they just tear your arm off at the shoulder and run off with it.
If the knight was equipped with a shield and sword - Knight.
If the knight had neither - Knight.
Even if the knight had no shield or weapons, it would fare better because his limbs become the next weapon being covered in armor a lion cannot penetrate. At least immediately. The only chance a lion remotely has is if it manages to knock the knight’s helmet off and go for the face and head following a takedown.
But I also wouldn’t say it’d be easy for the knight either because, all of that weight will just fall onto him should he be tackled. A full suit of armor typically weighs 50 pounds all over combined. So if a lion tackles the knight and manages to have enough intelligence to try and use suffocation as a means, that’s 50 pounds + the weight of the lion of 420, that knight is not getting up anytime soon.
Indigenous African tribes have been successfully defending themselves from lions for many thousands of years with much less than that.
Who would win in a battle to death, a lion or a pilot in a B-29 including it‘s load?
Can the lion start in the plane?
Yes, but to make it fair, neither the lion nor the pilot can take parachutes
