Many of my friends are American trans people desperate to be able to stay here, terrified of going back.
Seems low. Where I live it’s probably closer to 90-95%
American here and I agree.
Even within the borders of this asylum, the “6 in 10 don’t trust the US and/or the average American” feels like it would be in the ballpark for the locals. For the people living next to this shit, yeah more like your numbers.
I get it, but like, this isn’t something the American people did. This has been orchestrated over decades by the wealthiest evilest mfers on earth. Definitely dont trust our government and dont trust the red-hatted folks, but do realize that if this plays out how they want, all of the regular peiple of the world are going to need to set aside that distrust. It has spread to England and Germany. Canada wont be immune.
Americans still enabled it. Fuck em.
You’re telling me that people like Steve Bannon don’t go to Europe to spread their hateful shitty rhetoric all around the world? Or that 77 million that voted for Trump have nothing to do with his election?
I know it’s not “all of them”, but it’s a good chunk. It lowers the trust level in general, want it or not.
The American people control who is elected at the voting booth. THEY did this.
Absolutely. Americans, Israeli, Russians are all regular people caught in the crossfire. There are some shitheads in support of their governments, and there are plenty more of those who reject it and will happily join the opposing forces, uniting internationally over the same goal.
And outside of political lens, people are still the same as they were a year or two or three ago. It’s just that different political circumstances highlight particular kinds of people.
The majority of Israelis support the massacre. Theyre not blameless.
Yet, you cannot blame any given Israeli. Those who do not commit genocide should not receive scrutiny
This Canadian has been avoiding all US products I can and has zero plans to ever cross into the US border.
Americans are fucking stupid can’t be trusted.
Canada should fortify it’s southern border and get nukes.
I would even be into an American style vetting on Americans wanting into Canada. Lets check their phones. Sorry, MAGAt. You support Nazi’s and Trump. Fuck off!
You sound like Kim Jung Un, or that orange guy, when talking about nukes, and securing the southern border.
Canada has a serious problem with a long term ally attacking our trade and saying we’re going to become their 51st state. Trump mocks and attacks our leaders and makes threats against us.
You can try to belittle my comments, but we have a valid reason to feel threatened.
I am Canadian, so what is this we?
If he invades Canada, that will start WW3, he won’t do it. He is too busy destabilising his own country, and deporting people. Also, we have no nukes, compared to the u.s. having over +5,000.
I think we should up security checks for guns and drugs coming into Canada, but not search phones unless we have probable cause. We don’t have to stoop down to Donald Trump’s level.
Make them feel welcomed coming into our country, and hated going back into their own country. We don’t need a wall, or nukes. You silly Goober.
6 in 10 Canadians had too much trust in US citizens
As an American, the other 4 out of 10 must be idiots. GOP is on a mission to destroy everything that makes America a superpower.
Canada has their own far-right wing. I bet around 30% are MAGA types. If you look at any election, 30% usually vote insane.
Those 30% morons should move to the middle of bum fucking Mississippi.
Maybe they just never trusted America in the first place!
From Mary Poppins:
Though we adore them individually, we agree that as a group they’re rather stupid.
from MIB:
A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals, and you know it.
Yours is more eloquent though.
Haha, I’m stealing this to describe religious people
It took you guys this long ??
Canada needs a nuke now more than ever. Build it. And any time the orange fuckhead threatens annexation load it up in the silo.
Might need more than one but you got the spirit
Sure…the US will let a country park nukes next door. See what happened the last time someone tried that.
Rapist convict trump can suck it. We’ll burn down the White House again if he pisses around.
The Kim dynasty is still in power.
They will fail to invade? Maybe this bay can be called Canadian bacon.
And Canada has nukes already, they are just labelled “usa”
Personally, my trust in any specific individual is entirely based on that individual, regardless of their nationality or any other factor… Because I’m not bigoted like that.
However, my trust in the American government and my willingness to use American brands has been permanently altered.
Given how much surveillance most major tech companies do on their users, I’m just about ready to break out the tin foil. Shit is getting wild.
This. I live in a bubble in California. We still have decent folks here. When I travel the country I tend to encounter the chuds at airport bars. The key child indicator is to respond that you’re from San Francisco when they ask. They won’t be able to contain the fox news eulogy for San Francisco and how it used to be a great state before it got "ruined "
I don’t blame them. I am (sadly) American, and I certainly don’t trust most Americans right now.
Edit to add: and don’t know that I ever will again.
This is exactly what they want to happen… most people are not actually bad people, they want better standards of living just like you and everyone else.
Some people are terrible and racists… but most people are tired of struggling and the rich getting richer… they just want their jobs back and to do what they are used to doing… they want to be okay because everything is fucked up…
They are being lied to, you are being lied to… everyone is being lied to…
Not everyone has forgotten their humanity, the people in control who want you to believe so, are the ones that keep telling you that they have
No matter how good a person could be, I wouldn’t trust them if they are easily manipulated in believing BS. I won’t hate them, but I won’t trust them.
Anyone with an bit of judgement could see what Trump was. And yet he was elected. Twice!
So all these “good people” have cpntributed to elect a fascist twice already. You want me to trust they won’t elect another one after him? That this is a two times mistake and Canadians can rely on the US after that?
Nope.
Maybe they were lied to about Trump. They will be lied to again by others about other fascists.
You can blame education, oligarchs propaganda, whatever. Point is: Canada can’t rely on the USA, even if Trump goes away.
This might put some of it into a better perspective…
You would be amazed at how easily you can be manipulated…
You will probably sit there and say not me never, but you probably have been manipulated and tricked into thinking differently and didn’t even realize it…
And you’ve been graceully and entirely missing the point of my comment. So maybe you should wonder what state of mind you’re in right now?
It looks to me that you’re more here to push a narrative about manipulation than discussing the topic.
Brecht:
“When the last [war] came to an end There were conquerors and conquered. Among the conquered the common people Starved. Among the conquerors The common people starved too.”
No one can trust an oligarch. If they live in your country, they are not your countrymen. If they don’t, they are not the common people who live where they happen to.
4 of 10 never trusted them to begin with
I bet more in ten Americans feel the same way about Americans.
… It’s probably about the same. A certain idiot never really dips below 38% approval rating.
They don’t trust us, we don’t trust them.
I don’t know who we is, but you’re right.
Yeah, I was just wondering what the hell is wrong with 4/10 Canadians?
Every country has “the idiot third”, add a couple “IDK” and bam 40%
half of those are probably Bertans
As an US American watching two decades of secular human sacrifice through the long tail of the gunpowder revolution has left me undernourished and starving for humanity.
I’m afraid that the humanity you starve for has always been an ideal, and not reality.
It feels like we’re near or possibly over the precipice of losing our democracy
I’d just caution our friends to the north and those across the pond that when I look at people like Carney and Starmer I see people as bad or worse than Biden and then I look at who’s waiting in the wings…
It’s been gone since Citizens United, dude.
Definitely worse than Biden, but the systems they’re running are better than the one in America so it about evens out. Which, given how the American situation went, is really fucking bad.
Same
I hate that I’m lumped in with these people but I also understand.
Individuals are to be assessed and judged individually based on their own merit; but trust in the collective, particularly of those in a position of power has eroded so enormously that the ‘benefit of the doubt’ is lost.
There’s no choice but to assume the worst will happen; because of this, I will NEVER live in America. It will be a long long time before I even consider visiting, and for the foreseeable future I will continue to make an effort to not buy American products.
I’ve been removing American tech companies from my life over the last 5-10years, but I’ve been stepping up those efforts more recently and this is only more encouragement.
I’m lumped in with these people
Maybe at first glance, but first impressions aren’t everything. Everyone deserves a chance; keep your chin up m8. I wish you the best of luck in this crazy world. 🇨🇦
I never understood this stereotype (aboot vs about). I’m Canadian, lived here all my life, my family is all Canadian and all have lived here all their lives. I’ve got family all across the country, from the western coast of BC to the eastern coast of Newfoundland, from the northern stretches of Nunavut to the most southern tip of Ontario, and very rarely have I ever heard it pronounced that way. It’s actually really funny as a Canadian to look up “how to speak like a Canadian” and watch how awful most of the “tips” are. I’d recommend it.
It’s harder to make a joke with zed vs zee.
One time I was having a conversation with a woman that I had never met before. About 5 minutes into the conversation, she used a word with the “ou” vowel sound and I asked her if she was Canadian. She was caught off guard and didn’t understand how I correctly assumed she was Canadian.
East Coast thing in my experience. Especially more rural
A lot of people in the us will misinterpret a rural Ontario accent as Californian because way back in the day a bunch of people from Ontario moved to California and apparently the accent kind of caught on.
There’s a town called Ontario in California even.
I think “oot” emphasises the difference from US accents for parody reasons, and also it’s just not that simple to describe that difference by substituting a single letter of the alphabet. The best way I can think of to describe it (based on experience with friends from BC) is like a combination of “oht” and “oat”
I’m in the US and I have to support this analysis. I dated someone from Canada when I was younger, and at first he expressed the same thought as the poster above - he didn’t hear the difference, so he didn’t get it.
Until he came to visit me in the states. The difference between how his dad and my dad talked was so apparent, the stereotype just “clicked.” To say “aboot” is definitely an exaggeration, but in all fairness, it’s really hard to repeat a sound that isn’t in your native dialect. There is no US-English equivalent for the “ou” sound in Canadian English “about.”
It’s like when a Japanese speaker uses a Z sound instead of English TH - it’s not because Z is exactly what they hear when an English person says TH, but because the TH sound doesn’t exist in Japanese at all. In both cases (and so many more across the world), speakers substitute non-standard sounds with ones they already know.
Afaik, the aboot thing is a regional dialect thing in parts of Ontario.
And, as we know, Toronto represents all Canadians… (or at least thinks they do)
Let’s hope the new “Toronto man” accent doesn’t come to represent all of Canada in the coming years.
its more like “a-boat”. I’ve never even been to Canada, but I can often spot a Canadian on TV within moments based on how they speak.
How does an American pronounce it?
A vast majority of the Canadians I know pronounce it the same way as “out”, “sprout”, “trout” etc.
To me a standard American accent sounds like they’re replacing the OU with AW, “abawt”. Or maybe “abowt” if they pronounced it like the bow of a ship (not like a fancy knot or the weapon).
Like Ay-bout… “bout” pronounced like a fight between two people.
Yeah that’s the same up here for most folks I know.
It’s because everyone’s accents have gotten less distinct/strong due to TV. I know people from the US south with barely an accent because of this.
Also, some of the accent stereotype comes from your own movie productions, especially older ones when the accents were more like that:
Granted they are playing this up for their characters
I absolutely love Bob and Doug McKenzie but they’re definitely not representative of the average Canadian. Like you said, they’re playing it up for their characters. They play an exaggerated stereotype of a dim-witted drunken Canadian. They’re kind of like Canadian Homer Simpsons in a way. A great comedy duo, truly one of the best, but most Canadians don’t sound like that.
Same, never heard ‘aboot’ in my life. However, I do tend to say ‘-eh’ all the time, especially at the end of sentences as emphasis.
I definitely use “eh” a lot, that stereotype is pretty accurate, though I feel like a lot of Americans don’t quite understand the usage of the word.
It’s exaggerated. I’m from Newfoundland and have little to no regional accent, but still have very slight grammatical and phonetic tells that are apparently obvious to people from elsewhere.
I use more long “O” sounds than people in the US which is apparently obvious almost immediately, and I have some odd grammar whitch apparently singles me out as from NL very quickly to anyone in Canada.
Also, apparently the way I say “thirteen” has a stronger hint of Newfoundland in it than the rest of my speech, at least according to one of my co-workers from Ontario.
It’s quite possible that having such a wide ranging family same social circle has simple acclimated you to the various regional differences in dialect.
It’s exaggerated.
I watch a lot of Canadian Youtube, it’s totally a mix.
80% of the time it’s identical to US about
19% of the time it’s aboawt.
1% of the time it’s totally a-boot.
With a US English ear, it’s jarring. (not in a bad way) but we totally notice it.
Not eveyone does it. Linus from Linus tech tips drops one every few shows, but then Electro Boom never does. Bobsdecline does it a little less often.
It’s kind of like the US and Brittish people saying Idear instead of idea. it happens once in a while
I think Linus does it as a meme, more than as part of his natural speech.
And Bobsdecline is from the opposite coast.
The aboot thing is mostly a southern Ontario thing, but since that is where a lot of traditional media comes from, it is the most commonly exported Canadian regional accent.
Linus might be meaming it, but I have heard others say it. The aboat version of it is even common across the northern border in central US.
I also just ran across a video of two Canadian English teachers talking about it, but they too were almost in the aboat class.
A boawt
