Charlie Kirk’s suspected killer, Tyler Robinson, allegedly texted his roommate the day of the shooting and discussed his rifle, possible motive and other details on the planning surrounding the event, according to charging documents released by Utah County officials on Tuesday.
finishing off a fucking murder confession with “delete this exchange”… this guy was not very bright it seems.
I agree and disagree at the same time on whether we’re being too conspiratorial. I think it’s where you place the conspiracy that matters.
Here’s how I think it would play out in a way that allows feds to get their way: Tyler goes on the run. He gets cornered in a remote area, cops don’t know if he is armed. Either they claim Tyler shot himself (he allegedly said he was thinking about it) or they claim they shot Tyler in self defense. Now Tyler is out of the way and anything can be said about him. His last words, his motives are all up for grabs.
However, it didn’t happen that way. Tyler walked, unarmed, into the police station and peacefully turned himself in. Now you have someone who will eventually talk. Your options are to kill him or try to mitigate his future confession. He’s not dead yet. It could be that the cops make it easy for a revenge shooting to take place and we get a lazy Jack Ruby thing. He might commit suicide in jail. We have to wait and see. But while he’s not dead, their option is to piece together his motives in a way that benefits their narrative.
Propaganda is about emphasis. They are placing emphasis on certain pieces of evidence and not others. They do not want you to consider all the evidence in full context. They want you to focus on certain things. This is why you will get partially released chat logs, texts, photos, and anything else right up to the point of it being illegal withholding of evidence. We may see a little scuffle between the courts and prosecution in the future about missing context for evidence.
The roommate appears to also be a problem. Like Tyler, the ideal thing would be for them to put up a fight. They didn’t though. They cooperated immediately and genuinely seem surprised by Tyler’s actions. As much as the feds are fascists, they’re not crossing the line into what we expect of them. They didn’t black bag the roommate and take them to a remote site for interrogation. They didn’t plant a gun or drugs on the roommate as justification kill them or arrest them.
You have an incompetent federal investigation that hasn’t gotten their way this whole time. They want to create a narrative but now they have to be clever about it. They are not clever people. They want to do the conspiracy, but they can’t carry it out without cooperation. Kash can’t just walk in and shoot Tyler in the head in front of all the local or state Utah cops. Yes they’re fascist and most of them probably like Trump, but they aren’t on board for that level of involvement.
Their only recourse is to take the evidence and frame it in a way that fits their narrative. That’s the level of conspiracy we’re dealing with. How do the feds finesse this in a way that doesn’t alienate everyone involved from cooperating? Can they construct a case in a way that doesn’t get push-back from local investigators, dozens of lawyers, and the judges that are going to be involved.
I don’t think we’re dealing with a situation where Trump hand picked a 20-something Utah resident to take the fall. People keep throwing around “who benefits?” but I think they’re misapplying that heuristic. Any news story that isn’t about Epstein distracts from Epstein. You either stop reporting new events until the Epstein thing wraps up or you make every event about Epstein. Trump benefits from everything because that’s how our system is set up, not because Trump is omniscient. Remember Shock Doctrine? Disaster capitalism.
I agree and disagree at the same time on whether we’re being too conspiratorial. I think it’s where you place the conspiracy that matters.
Here’s how I think it would play out in a way that allows feds to get their way: Tyler goes on the run. He gets cornered in a remote area, cops don’t know if he is armed. Either they claim Tyler shot himself (he allegedly said he was thinking about it) or they claim they shot Tyler in self defense. Now Tyler is out of the way and anything can be said about him. His last words, his motives are all up for grabs.
However, it didn’t happen that way. Tyler walked, unarmed, into the police station and peacefully turned himself in. Now you have someone who will eventually talk. Your options are to kill him or try to mitigate his future confession. He’s not dead yet. It could be that the cops make it easy for a revenge shooting to take place and we get a lazy Jack Ruby thing. He might commit suicide in jail. We have to wait and see. But while he’s not dead, their option is to piece together his motives in a way that benefits their narrative.
Propaganda is about emphasis. They are placing emphasis on certain pieces of evidence and not others. They do not want you to consider all the evidence in full context. They want you to focus on certain things. This is why you will get partially released chat logs, texts, photos, and anything else right up to the point of it being illegal withholding of evidence. We may see a little scuffle between the courts and prosecution in the future about missing context for evidence.
The roommate appears to also be a problem. Like Tyler, the ideal thing would be for them to put up a fight. They didn’t though. They cooperated immediately and genuinely seem surprised by Tyler’s actions. As much as the feds are fascists, they’re not crossing the line into what we expect of them. They didn’t black bag the roommate and take them to a remote site for interrogation. They didn’t plant a gun or drugs on the roommate as justification kill them or arrest them.
You have an incompetent federal investigation that hasn’t gotten their way this whole time. They want to create a narrative but now they have to be clever about it. They are not clever people. They want to do the conspiracy, but they can’t carry it out without cooperation. Kash can’t just walk in and shoot Tyler in the head in front of all the local or state Utah cops. Yes they’re fascist and most of them probably like Trump, but they aren’t on board for that level of involvement.
Their only recourse is to take the evidence and frame it in a way that fits their narrative. That’s the level of conspiracy we’re dealing with. How do the feds finesse this in a way that doesn’t alienate everyone involved from cooperating? Can they construct a case in a way that doesn’t get push-back from local investigators, dozens of lawyers, and the judges that are going to be involved.
I don’t think we’re dealing with a situation where Trump hand picked a 20-something Utah resident to take the fall. People keep throwing around “who benefits?” but I think they’re misapplying that heuristic. Any news story that isn’t about Epstein distracts from Epstein. You either stop reporting new events until the Epstein thing wraps up or you make every event about Epstein. Trump benefits from everything because that’s how our system is set up, not because Trump is omniscient. Remember Shock Doctrine? Disaster capitalism.