New “is coffee a treat” struggle session just dropped
Black no-sugar coffee is drugs, a sugary milky creamy syrupy coffee is treats
I hate how correct this feels
If you brew it right it doesn’t need anything extra
Coffee brewed right is treats.
Only shitty ass instant coffee in too hot water counts as drugs. I’m not talking folders or yuban either. I’m talking nescafé. Anything better is bourgeoisie decadence
Guess I’m a drug addict and not a treatlerite, hell yea
I mean most people could live without it, the industry runs on third world exploitation and Americans would riot without it
Sounds like a treat
14·9 days agoNew way to determine treat: would Americans riot without it?
I didn’t take the post title seriously but just in case…
Calling coffee a treat is a bit of an insult to pretty much all the global south bar SEA / East Asia.
Yes, I mainly just wanted a title that sounded snappy and funny. But in all seriousness, I do now see coffee as a treat. I’ve had to greatly reduce my caffeine intake after developing insomnia six years ago. I have hormone deficiencies due to very severe sleep apnea that went untreated for sometime, and I now find that drinking caffeinated coffee keeps me up no matter how early in the day I drink it. Even decaf can keep me up, so I try not to have it any later than 1 pm.
I now pretty much only drink caffeinated coffee if I want a seasonal flavor (yes, I am in touch with my inner white girl and enjoy a pumpkin spice latte), or if I’m going out for the day an need to stay up later than normal. I normally only have four to six cups of caffeinated coffee each month, so it does feel more like a treat now.
Considering coffee is part of Colombia’s culture, with festivals, tourism, and a whole identity influenced by coffee…
Allow me to politely disagree. And I don’t think it’s that different in other parts of the world.
I think you might have misunderstood what I was saying. By “I see it as a treat”, I mean I now consider it a treat for myself when I get the rare chance to have it. I’m talking about it in my own subjective experience, not as something universal. I didn’t see it as a treat when I was drinking more coffee in an average day than I currently do in a month.
What is coffee?
a miserable little pile of secrets
Coffee being Hamas is the one part of my post people here have accepted without criticism.
Im just having fun. I can see the argument against it but I view coffee same with tobacco and alcohol as an important core ressource . Happy cake day
sorry but I prefer tea
But of course, not Starbucks because of BDS (and their coffee is terrible anyway)
pin me on the free coffee board
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New struggle session just dropped, what exactly is a “treat”.
thing i like: necessary, based
thing you like: treats, cringe
QED
Im sorry but calling coffee a treat feels like stretching the definition of the word. Feels like an essential good to millions of people around the world (Hey its even vegan). Now a cake ? thats a treat. But coffee ? Thats a core ressource for many people. One of the things that keeps them going day in and out.
I’d say it is a “treat” irrespective of its behavior, but we need to to chill out and stop being anxious like the ghost of UlyssesT is going to return and curse us for enjoying something that’s not fundamentally necessary for life.
communism is not a poverty cult and a strict rohibition on “treats” is not a core communist tenet.
communism is not a poverty cult and a strict prohibition on “treats” is not a core communist tenet.
Really? Damnit I signed up cause I really wanted a world with 1 toothbrush.
I remember Graeber made the point that colonialism was/is often centered around stimulants: sugar, tobacco, coffee, tea, opium, coca. Its the perfect commodity for it because you can induce demand where there is none, whether at home or in the periphery (like china during the opium wars)
If putting spices on your food is a treat, does that make white people the most ethical eaters?
The hexbear “Protestantism is evil to Protestantism is true virtuous communism” pipeline was not on my bingo card
Pre imperialism sure. They committed genocides to take control of and expand the spice trade.
It’s kind of funny how italy gets to have the best european cuisine just by being in the imperial core so long, first during the roman empire, then during the columbian exchange. I guess the climate helped too. Compared to them northern europe took a long time to catch up. It’s crazy how much the working class diet there changed so much even over the last half century
You know tomatos arent indigenous to italy? So the italian food you think of now was mostly made with a version of mayo not tomato sauce.
Yeah that’s what i was referring to with the columbian exchange. But I didn’t know about the mayo lol
Good, because I have seen several variants of that take where people imagine that medieval Italians ate modern day lasagna and salsa rossa.
This is treat revisionism. Coffee is for sure a treat, it’s even addictive. If coffee isn’t a treat then tobacco isn’t a treat.
Well an argument could be made that tobacco is in fact a core ressource for many folks like potatoes or rice. So my point still stands. These are the things that make society run so to speak (my post wasnt meant 100% serious though)
Yeah, they make society run and look how that’s going
Im not saying they are good. Merely that you gotta cope with life under capitalism so it would feel cruel to take away tobacco and coffee from people (even if they are drugs). I still think they are basically essential goods.
Nah, I get you. I’m just being obstinate about it for fun. I’m drinking it right now to wash down some Adderall and Wellbutrin. Later I’ll smoke some recreational weed. I love stimulants and might not even exist without them. “Treats” for me and many others are survival, for sure. No way I could work 10 hours a day for 20+ years and facing probably another 30+ years without treats
People ate cake even amongst peasantry. Sure they werent the fancy glazed type, but “cake” as a treat was still consumed despite great poverty and hardship.
Even if we want to say that caffeine is an important staple for many people, there’s other sources of caffeine besides coffee, specifically saying “my specific preferred kind of coffee or tea is a staple and therefore immune from criticism” is vaguely
behaviorhonestly though I’m not particularly interested in passing judgement on the subject (maybe because I too am a coffee addict/self medicating with caffeine). Its kind of a dumb debate with no stakes. I’ll buy my zapatista coffee or whatever and just focus on more pressing stuff
Oh I dont disagree with you. I was using coffee as stand in for caffeine but I feel that coffee is the most common form of caffeine intake people have. So it felt ok to use as stand in for caffeine. I think “caffeine” is SUCH a common drug that people use as simple stimulant to get through their days that to me it feels like an essential good. Like as soon as you took care of the barest essentials some form of caffein beverage would be next on my list of wants.
I have a sleep disorder. I’m going to call it a treat, and no one can stop me.
And calling cake a treat is acephobic. It’s insinuating that they should only have the right to be their true authentic selves on special occasions.
???
cake is a treat, what’s wrong with having an occasional treat? I assume the ace thing is a joke?
Yes. Asexuals have a meme that cake is ace.
Treats, like all commodities are a social relation. Coffee becomes a treat by virtue of the relation between the producer(s) and the consumer, hence how the same coffee can be a relatively simple beverage in the periphery and a treat in the imperial core.
I didn’t write this BTW. I spotted it in a coffee shops and thought people here might appreciate it.
Its cool points fingerguns at you
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