Even in leftists spaces this guy’s qualities are outsized and graded on some ridiculous curve. Literally just saw a video of him speaking about race essentialism and I’m honestly rethinking whether I’m living on the same planet with even people I call conrades

Just because he’s tapped into the sentiments of libs doesn’t make him charismatic

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    reminds me of the way liberals pretend Hitler was some sort of hypnotic wizard to avoid talking about the material basis for his support

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      We had some German exchange students at my american high-school. Someone tried talking to them about how Hitler was some great orator and brainwashed the poor German masses.

      The Germans had no idea what they were talking about, and explained how his Austrian accent made him actually kind of hard to understand lmao.

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      Liberals love to tell me I’d be a nazi if I had grown up in fascist Germany but like fascists exist now and I think they’re ontologically evil or complete gullible dipshits.

      Furthermore nazi Germany would have probably put me in a camp for being queer and Polish

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        And plus, what I’d be if I grew up in Nazi Germany is a completely pointless question, because if I had grown up in Nazi Germany, I’d be a completely different person. I have no idea what this person who shares my genetic makeup would do.

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          And then they have the rage-inducing ability to then act flummoxed when some other miseducated dishit reads a transcript and says “some of what this Hitler guy said was alright” while the seething mass of nazis say “we were right all along!”

          Liberalism placed the Hitler rake at their feet and then jumped on it. They’re still stomping on it right now.

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    It was extremely funny when Fuentes got doxxed.

    Couldn’t happen to me, I’m built different. That is, I have lots of friends with houses I could just move in to, several different cities I could relocate to almost at the drop of a hat, or I could even go live on a commune where everyone functions as security collectively and you can’t just show up without being noticed. That’s what happens when you spend several years doing movement building and trying to be likable, instead of trying to seek your fame by building a legion of seething misanthropes who don’t even know each other.

    Granted, I am older than he is, but have plenty of comrades his age and younger that are in a similar position to mine.

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        Go to threads about him on r_true_anon for example and there’ll be discussions about how scary he is because he’s ‘witty’ and so in tune with young Americans.

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          r/true_anon is flooded with liberals ever since r/the_deprogram got banned, plus the standard left-curious liberal phenomenon that happens every time the GOP is in power. If you’re seeing positive things about him that aren’t just as u/dead described, you’re almost certainly seeing confused theoryless liberals.

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          I think you are confused. Saying that Nick Fuentes is good at trickery is not a compliment. It is a warning of danger. If you ignore the warning of danger, then you are the one that will be victim.

          Nick Fuentes is not someone that can be ignored. Trump defended Tucker Carlson for interviewing Nick Fuentes just 4 days ago. Nick Fuentes met with Trump at Mar-A-Lago in 2022. Marjorie Taylor Greene promoted Nick Fuentes on The View just last week,

          Charlie Kirk was Nick Fuentes’s main opponent. Nick Fuentes has been using the opportunity of Charlie Kirk’s death to take Kirk’s place in the media. He’s been increasingly appearing in main stream media. He is very rapidly gaining momentum amongst the Right Wing.

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            One can be wary of the rhetoric Fuentes pushes without making him out to be some clever operator.

            He’s a dweeb selling opium to a very willing populace, there is nothing impressive about him. Read the comment about this resembling the way libs make Hitler out to be some magical sorcerer. You can trot out a child and get the same following

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    I agree ,he isn’t funny at all nor charismatic

    Trump is legitimately funny ,and even on his own despite being a delusional narcissist

    Like I legit feel so confused when I hear people talking about how he’s funny , like on what planet do these people live ???

    it’s not even about racism or being a scumbag , I can name actors ,writers ,personalities who were conservative and were pretty funny

    also this more of a I guess “hot take” but people should shut up about him in General ,despite all the bullshit manufacturing for him to be something big ,HE IS NOT and WILL NOT BE

    He isn’t a threat and people should stop talking like he is one ,people keep boosting his profile because they talk about him ,stop talking about him ,I am sick of having to hear about him ,like I every time I hear the dude I want to punch someone so bad ,he is so fucking obnoxious

    as for why he isn’t a threat ,it’s because of a concept I like to call “The Ceiling” , he isn’t the typical Neo-Nazi ,he chose a specific label “America First” ,a lot of Neo Nazis in the world have many of his horrible views but they oppose American ,Fuentes is an American supremacist and nationalist which most Neo-Nazis are not

    in the past few months against my will ,I learned that He is pro Invading Venezuela and has also said “Israel is a better benefit to America than Muslims” ,I know it sounds crazy to say but Neo Nazis around the world don’t share those views, and most Americans despite really hating Venezuela are very tired and sick of wars ,the fact it’s from the same people who pushed for Iraq and for the same reasons doesn’t help the sentiment

    his anti immigration and anti-Muslim views don’t work to their full potential because the USA is not Europe , Americans are fundamentally less racist than Europeans and America for decades has been promoted as a country of Immigrants , people are gonna bring up the ICE stuff but once republicans are out of power ,it’s gonna be seen in an extremely negative light , Europeans wouldn’t bat an eye if it happened there

    As for the Muslim part ,you can’t be pulling “Muslims want Sharia Law” when every well known Muslim political figure in the country be it political or not is more “Woke” than the average woke Liberal ,most Muslims in the USA are way more Liberal than their counterparts in Europe ,I mean figures like Hassan (yes all 3 of them) and Zohran and Rashida

    The reason a lot of anti woke content made by right wingers in the Biden era was popular is because believe it or not many of those right wingers had international audiences even if they didn’t know, a person I know from my class was subscribed to the Insta of a girl called Misha (Hakim has a video on her), She Came out as Pro Israel and made fun of the left for being “Pro Hamas” during the genocide and my classmate isn’t following her anymore , ,when you hate Muslims you are losing an audience of 2 billion on the spot, the more groups you hate the more people you alienate unless you are an extremely charismatic figure to the point the person watching will ignore the hate ,Fuentes simply isn’t

    He also is clearly propped up by bots ,randoms mentions of Fuentes in a video that doesn’t have to do with him even on the smallest of channels and his followers are somehow always there , it’s bots

    That’s my opinion

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      Can “minion” please become a slur for fascists?

      • Portrayed as stupid and incapable of thinking for themselved
      • incomprehensible language
      • loved by boomers
      • ontologically are driven to serve the biggest villain, no matter how much that villain hates them.
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        I agree, it would have been a good name before the despicable me movies. Now minions are associated with the cute, funny, memeable little guys from the movie who are “evil” but always seem to do good things. I’m sure fascists would love the framing of the popular minion zeitgeist

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          NGL, I was actually hoping to play up the despicable me angle. Don’t portray them as badass supervillains but as kind of adorable but annoying creatures.

          But knowing fascists, they’d love to also be portrayed as mischievous but misunderstood little scamps.

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    I have never once seen anybody say anything positive about Kirk, excepting far right weirdos. Your comrades might be members of turning points if they’re glazing him.

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    There’s 2 liberal pathologies that precipitate baseless allegations of talent or skill to right wing charisma vaccuums:

    a) denial of media being fully regulated by corporate interests. if you integrate and entertain this line, you’re eventually going to stop being a liberal (or at least not credulous). So all right-wing success is attributable to some kind of rhetorical characteristic of the player. People used to say Rush Limbaugh and Bill O’Reilly were actually good at communication for this reason

    b) they perceive but don’t really understand (or they understand and dont mind confirming fascist pretenses) a figure like Fuentes criticizing and arguing with other parts of the right and try to appropriate it, like Neocon criticism of Trump

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    Idk if I’m just not in the right circles or what but I don’t think I even know what he sounds like when he speaks