• Cethin@lemmy.zip
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    13 小时前

    NEW POLL: 15 Percent of Americans will lie to not have to admit they were mislead.

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      9 小时前

      Misled? It couldn’t have been more clear what kind of person Trump is.

      “15 Percent of Americans will lie to not have to admit they knowingly supported a pedo.”

      FTFY

    • aceshigh@lemmy.world
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      16 小时前

      Take the average American. Half of the people are dumber than that. Any questions?

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      Dunno, man: 40% of Americans believe the earth is less than 10,000 years old. Only 2% of them believe it’s flat, though. We are not an information-rich culture.

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        11 小时前

        We are in an over-rich information culture, we just have some really undescerning people who don’t know truth from lies when being bombarded with it all.

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        I disagree. There is no shortage of information. It’s just mixed in with a shitload of misinformation, disinformation, and bullshit, garnished with slop and irrelevant garbage to also have to sift through to find anything useful.

        And we stopped teaching kids how to differentiate because we thought it would be more important to prove through standardized tests that kids are meeting curricula, but that means we all memorized “the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell” without actually breaking down what that phrase means.

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          23 小时前

          Yeah, having information available isn’t useful in and of itself. You have to be able to think critically to be able to pick out what has merit and what does not.

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        70-85: This range is considered low average, or borderline intellectual functioning. Many people in this range are able to work, have social lives, and function independently, but may need some academic accommodations or support.

        That range sounds about right.

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      13 小时前

      These must be those who actually voted. Y’know, because all the ‘smart’ people were sitting it out.

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      No, because far less than 100% of Americans are voters, and the 15% is about Americans not voters…

      Even then, pretty sure he didn’t get 50% of the votes.

      So however you meant what you said, you’re wrong.

      • MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world
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        About 22% of all Americans (not just voters) voted for him in 2024. So there’s still millions of people who voted for him and believed he knew.

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        not how statistics work. percentages apply to sample of any size.

        imagine there were 100 voters in the last elections. trump got 50 of them and if he got all of this 15% group (unlikely, but it actually plays in his favor in this argument). that means 50*0,70=35 of his voters believed he was guilty and voted for him anyway.

        if someone asks why 0,70 and not 0,85 (1-0,15) it is based on assumption that the we believe he is not guilty group was largely voting for him, which is not unreasonable assumption. if some of them were actually voting for democrats, that makes the number of people voting for him despite believing he is a child rapist even higher.

        (this argument indeed ignores shift of this number in time).

        Even then, pretty sure he didn’t get 50% of the votes.

        even though it is irrelevant in this argument - he got 49.80% of votes and he won popular vote with 77,3M against harris’s 75M votes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election#Results

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          not how statistics work

          Correct, everything after that sentence infers youve never taken even a basic statistics course…

          Are you just going off highschool math when they taught you percentages?

  • inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world
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    1 天前

    The actual numbers are so much worse. The 15% overall “didnt know” is watered down from ~30% Republicans. They are lying either to the pollsters or more likely, themselves.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relationship_of_Donald_Trump_and_Jeffrey_Epstein

    In 2002, speaking to New York magazine, Trump said “I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy.” He also stated that “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

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    In 2017, Epstein told Wolff that he had been Trump’s “closest friend for 10 years”.

    Two guys who say they’d been friends for a long time.