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      I always thought it was one of those made up school rumours that every kid in every corner of the world heard about somehow.

      Like that one about Marilyn Manson getting his lower ribs surgically removed.

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      In the Epstein emails someone asked if Putin has pictures of trump blowing Putin.

      It’s become a meme/phenomenon because fuck trump and it recontextualizes his actions in an extremely funny way. Especially the 2016 campaign

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      According to one Epstein e-mail, Putin has photos of Trump “sucking off Bubba”. What makes the story really amazing though is that there’s a nonzero chance that “Bubba” is Bill Clinton.

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      Well you see, when two men who don’t really love each other that much but are willing to party, meet at an Epstein party… Let’s say it would make P Diddy blush.

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    I’m old enough to remember the United States as a country that won two World Wars, won a Cold War, went to the moon, and had a reputation - deserved or not - as a shining beacon of freedom and democracy. Respected or feared by the entire world.

    Now it’s a country run by a paedophile fascist with dementia, elected twice by an equally mentally feeble populace - causing consternation and concern around the world.

    Americans should be ashamed of themselves. But of course they aren’t because they’re not actually capable of feeling shame.

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      the United States as a country that won two World Wars

      Contributed to winning two world wars.

      The U.S. didn’t carry the allies. Soviet and Chinese casualties far outstripped any American ones, and the amount of Indians thrown into the meat grinder on behalf of England during both of the World Wars is barely even mentioned. Then there’s civilian casualties. Was the wartime rationing bad? Sure, but it’s a piss take compared to Churchill’s Famine.

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      and had a reputation - deserved or not - as a shining beacon of freedom and democracy.

      As an European, I believe it was only in USian minds. Noone on the continent thought so, we always saw you to be weird religious nuts who keep legal slaves to this day. Oh, and you’re warmongers.

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      Americans should be ashamed of themselves. But of course they aren’t because they’re not actually capable of feeling shame.

      Some of us very much are.

      I’m also ashamed of the window lickers that let us get to this point too. We knew what this would bring, and here we are, laughing about the fascist pedophile finding out he took a shot to the mouth while him and his kiddie diddling friends destroy the country.

      I hate my fellow Americans.

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      I mean, I’m American. I had nothing at all to do with the state of America now. I have been doing what I can (protesting, good trouble, etc.) to oppose this shit before, during and after the election. I can’t really have shame for something that I had absolutely no part in and actively fought against for the past decade. I mean, I feel ashamed for my country and my loved ones, but I feel no personal shame because there are many of us who have actively been trying to undo this shit, no matter how impossible and foolish of a task that sounds like.

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      Took credit for winning world wars* Decided it won the cold war*

      It always has been run by fascist slave owners. Welcome to the real world, where america is and always has been shit stain on the history of the world.

      • Took credit for winning world wars

        america is and always has been shit stain on the history of the world.

        C’mon man, give the US some credit. They helped my home country, China, a lot during the defence against Japanese Imperialism, forced the impeialists to surrender.

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        One could make a case for Putin winning the cold war by installing a puppet dictator in the USA. I mean he said he would, and he did. It’s pretty impressive, really. Not the stratagem in itself, it’s dumb as fuck, but he knew the Americans would be even dumber.

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        I don’t necessarily disagree - hence my adding “deserved or not”, if you re-read what I wrote.
        But regardless of what you think, it had that reputation.

        And it doesn’t no more.

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        At least they tried to hide it, now they don’t.

        As for the cold war, if you consider the conflict USA-USSR they clearly won: Russia was, at least at some point, equally powerful to the USA technologically and militarly, what one did first, the other caught up pretty quickly, then the Soviet Government collapsed for various reasons, and they couldn’t catch up, now the USA is arguably the most technologically advanced country in the world, in many aspects.

        China is catching up, but they are in no way equally capable.

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      The Soviets won WW2, and nobody won the Cold War.

      Should we keep going? How about the Vietnam war? Wonder why you skipped over that one… Korea? How did that one turn out again?

      • Soviets didn’t do much to help China fight off the imperialists from Japan. The US did.

        Then Soviets try to coerce China to join the USSR as essentially a puppet state, used nuclear weapons as a threat to extort resources as “repayment” for the “help” they gave in WW2. Good thing China got the nuke, otherwise Soviets would’ve invaded.

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        It’s called “propaganda”. And they’re not wrong in that that was the image the USA projected and a lot of the Western world bought - regardless of the merit behind the image.

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      Username checks out. Most Americans aren’t on board with this shit and that’s pretty clear looking at any polls, we just have enough morons that think voting doesn’t matter or who listen to stupid ass propaganda from people pretending the parties are the same.

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        Most Americans aren’t on board with this shit

        They’re obviously onboard with different shit, else Trump wouldn’t be president. Twice.

        As shit goes, I preferred the old-timey one. At least it was dignified.

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          Trump is literally president because he got less votes than last time but the left and center chose not to show up because the dumb motherfuckers thought that both sides would be the same (because they either have no ability to think for themselves, or they don’t pay any attention). Most might try to make an argument that Gaza are the reason they chose not to vote, but tend to change the topic when you bring up how their choice made the lives of the people in Gaza worse now than they ever were.

          I’ll agree that the majority didn’t care enough to prevent this, but most of us are not onboard for this. Even the ones too stupid to think past the tip of their noses.

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            " the left and center chose not to show up because the dumb motherfuckers thought that both sides would be the same"

            Blame reddit and the DNC basically buying it. Nobody was excited for Kamala so they gaslit everyone into thinking she became Jesus 2.0 and would slam dunk it.

            Kamala remained unlikable the entire time despite what the gaslighting campaign says.

            When people were told her winning was a sure thing they said “I don’t have to hold my nose if everyone else is.”

            We desperately need change with how our candidates are selected because if another fucking neoliberal (Newsome) runs we definitely won’t have another election.

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            Single issue voters have never made any sense to me. I’ve never seen a political party platform that i agree with 100%. I try to weigh out all the party platforms, how they address different classes, issues, and geopolitics. I try to pick a platform that I think has the most potential to address some major issues with the least amount of things I’d want to protest against.

            I will vote for a party that is proposing something I’m strongly against if I think many of their other proposals are great. You can still hit the streets and protest the stuff you disagree with even if you voted for the party proposing it.

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              I’m right there with you. To s of people asked me how I could vote for the Democrats when they were being dumb as shit on Gaza as if the only other option in the table was ANY better

              I will vote for a party that is proposing something I’m strongly against if I think many of their other proposals are great. You can still hit the streets and protest the stuff you disagree with even if you voted for the party proposing it.

              10000% this. So many people on here see a false dichotomy of support the party or protest it, when the real answer is to vote for the least bad party and be out in the streets to make it better.