I was just arguing with my mom about this and she said it’s good people are losing the benefits because she knows people don’t need SNAP, despite needing them herself.
She then went on to name a few people who receive $800 for their 5 kids and simply sell the card to someone else to get cash for drugs and ask me how to solve that problem.
Reporting the abuse it wasn’t an option.
perhaps worth pointing out too… focusing on the minimal abuse as a reason the whole program should be cut is very american. i think the rest of the world the attitude is much more that a thing is necessary and abuse is a cost of doing business (like shoplifting: just because there’s some shoplifting doesn’t mean you close the whole store)… it’s very much nobody “undeserving” should get rewarded before people need help
PPP got abused too but for some reason they never bitch about that
had to search for that :p yeah aye - we had the same in aus (called jobkeeper)… our conservatives introduced it, and it was hugely successful at keeping people employed but also massively abused by big companies
https://www.thenewdaily.com.au/finance/finance-news/2021/09/03/jobkeeper-rorts
i think this quote pretty accurately describes it
JobKeeper is both the largest rort in Australian history and the most successful job saver
overall there were some reports written about it after the fact: lessons learned etc, but i think people don’t really blame the conservatives for the abuse… it was a programme that was quickly conceived of, and implemented very fast and it achieved a very important purpose. was it wasteful? sure… was it or something like it necessary? also very much yes
I have a business that was fully shut down for the pandemic quarantine, and I applied for PPP numerous times, and got turned down for a different reason every time. If the PPP wasn’t meant for businesses like mine, who were directly closed because of the quarantine, than who was it intended for?
Then I realized - It was a MAGA program, of course it was a scam. It wasn’t meant for me, I’m an honest, ethical business owner.
Yeah that sounds about like the line of reasoning I’d expect from conservatives in my family. The problem is that you gave them something at all. They made you a sucker. Stop helping people. etc.
They’d just terminate the thought there, and not move on to wonder if it could it be some other problem the system could help them with other than today’s cart of groceries. My goodness, they might accidentally save a life and not even know it!
She then went on to name a few people who receive $800 for their 5 kids and simply sell the card to someone else to get cash for drugs and ask me how to solve that problem.
That problem is easy to solve. Just stop telling that lie, because that’s the only way that situation exists. It’s a complete MAGA fantasy.
And if your mother gets SNAP, and is happy it’s gone, remember that about three weeks from now, when she’s begging you to buy her groceries. If you buy her anything, make it a big pack of ramen, and a couple of tins of sardines.
Bad choices of those on SNAP…
- Joined military to serve my country and this is how they treat me!
- Worked for government, got DOGE’d, and no one is hiring!
- Picked the wrong birth parents and at 6 no one will hire me!
- Lost job over 50 and those kids won’t hire me!
- Lost job to AI and I went to Standford!
- Pro-life and kept my baby! 7)…fill in the blank
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Yeah so Vance’s wife did that in a video too. She sending out morse code or is it a tactic to try to look serious. Idk. It’s weird.
How about this alternative:
Eat The Rich.
No u.
I see lots of people on Lemmy without much compassion for the people on the other team. I don’t see how both teams lacking compassion will fix this shit stain of a situation.
What compassion would you like to see?
Food ought to be a human right and that extends to people who voted for an administration that’s trying to make that worse than it already is.
Food is a human right. I still have no compassion for people who would rather see me starving or dead…
I can hold no compassion for people and still agree that they deserve to live. I’m not callous.
Let me say it louder for the people that need to hear it.
Everyone gets a plate but not everyone will have a place at the table.
If you’re defining compassion as believing everyone has the same human rights then I’ve got loads of it. The problem with the folks you’re talking about is that they don’t believe the same. Whether or not they deserve what they get or get what they deserve is out of scope for my definition of compassion.
I’m empathetic about their plight, but I feel no compassion. I’m sure the assholes who voted for the leopard and then got bit by the leopard are in a shitty situation. I hope things work out for them. I hope they don’t suffer too much, but I won’t lift a finger to help them.
I’d say I’m almost the opposite as you? I guess not really.
I hope they do get bit, I hope it kinda sucks, but I absolutely will lift a finger to help them.
they reap what they sow. Why should I feel bad for them getting what they asked for?
Yep. Make better choices at the ballot box. Unimpressed with your options in the ballot box? Make better choices in the primaries.
And most of all: go and fucking vote. Every time. In every ballot.
We really need multiple systems built out to inform people of when votes are happening that way there are no excuses and to make sure people get them
You think that people who use public assistance will be allowed to vote? Really?
Of course they will, so long as they stay voting for the GOP. The uneducated are one of their strongest voting blocs
Maybe if they WANTED to Eat they Shouldn’t have Voted for the Party who Promised to Take Away Their Food so they can Protect Pedophiles INSTEAD!
-Republicans who will Continue to Vote Republican!
They can make a better choice this Tuesday (and, more importantly, in the mid-terms next year)
Lindy Li is so FOCKING insane and desperate for anyone to like to her. She was a Dem fundraiser for years, and after realizing that just working in the party wasn’t going to get her accepted as a candidate to get into office (because of her insanity), she switched to this ultra-MAGA psycho BS she’s spouting today.
It’s attention whoring at its lowest in order to try and get into office anyway she can. She’s not well liked enough due to her clear mental instability, so she thinks hating on whomever the “other side” is will curry enough favor to get a fast track to…something.
well there you go. Sounds like she made some bad life choices.
And to be fair, she’ll probably go far. Look at Steven Cheung. The more incompetent, foul-mouthed, and insane you are the more they want you out front.
Somehow I dbout MAGAs plan to vote for an Asian woman no matter how crazed and on their level she is. Only chance she’s got is though Trump directly, but she’s not white note plastic enough to make it on that level
Au contraire! A boob job, bleach blonde, some lip filler is exactly the kind of resumé dynamite the MAGA crowd goes for. $4000 and a handy-j to Lewandowski and CHOO CHOOO she’s on the grifting express.
They’re the type of nonwhite who believe they’re “the good ones” and will be accepted if they try hard enough. They desperately wish they were born white. They may not realize it but they will never be fully accepted.
Li previously ran as a Democratic candidate for Congress, describing herself as a “tree-hugging progressive,” and sought the endorsement of the Democratic Socialists of America. She lost her Congressional bid, and years later, shifted to the Republican Party and to becoming a strong supporter of Trump.
Grifting clear as day
FUCKING… this is the god damned grown up internet where you can fucking swear all the fuck day long. This self censoring shit can stay on god damned reddit and youtube.
Is for phonetic effect. Not being shy.
It’s their fucking business, not yours.
Have you tried not being poor?
Sorry, too busy trying to not be disabled
Reminds me of this song
I expected the one from Inside https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oDQXFNWuZj8&pp=ygUMaW5zaWRlIHNvY2tv
Li previously ran as a Democratic candidate for Congress, describing herself as a “tree-hugging progressive,” and sought the endorsement of the Democratic Socialists of America. She lost her Congressional bid, and years later, shifted to the Republican Party and to becoming a strong supporter of Trump.
This person sounds like a grifter and has now found a more receptive audience.
That or some unfortunate mental health issues.
Oh everything I believed? Totally the opposite now. Hashtag stable genius.
So no morals or ethics at all. Ok got it.
This tracks because the GOP is the party of unqualified illtempered pedo loving dipshits… They target the vulnerable because they cherish them as delicacies. Then they blame the victim to assuage their atrophying pangs of guilt about how selfish and selfserving they’ve become in life and everything.
Sure, for the republicans that have even an ounce of introspection. But many of them are all-in on the hatred and cruelty. They loathe poor people and minorities. Reject them…
Li previously ran as a Democratic candidate for Congress, describing herself as a “tree-hugging progressive,” and sought the endorsement of the Democratic Socialists of America. She lost her Congressional bid, and years later, shifted to the Republican Party and to becoming a strong supporter of Trump.
Does anyone know of any examples of politicians swinging hard in the opposite direction? I’m not talking about things like the Lincoln project or changes made up to age 25 or so, but actual significant leftward movement from adult politicians.
You can never trust her again. She doesn’t believe in ideology, she just wants power and is willing to go to any side and any length to get what she feels entitled to.
Don’t worry, that’s not why I’m asking. No, she’s a rat forever.
I just wonder if it’s always in this direction. My suspicion is that it tends to flow from more discerning parties to less discerning parties, and in the US right now, the republicans are the least discerning of the national parties. I could see people moving from actual leftist parties to the greens (in the places where the greens are either liberal or controlled opposition) in other countries, I’m not sure if they’re leftist in some countries), but that’s still a rightward move.
I think Graham Platner, if you take his word for what is in his past and present political mindsets, would be an example of a right-to-left swing, but not done as a politician. Shaun on YouTube is another one that comes to mind potentially, depending on how old he is for whether that qualifies as an under age 25. In the US at least, we don’t really have a strong left wing to draw in people looking for a change, so most of those conversions are happening less in the public sphere and more in corners of the internet, where it hasn’t been enshittified to ensure even those spaces are dominated by tight wing narratives
That’s part of why I’m asking- the vast majority of leftists I know grew up in right wing or centrist circles and moved left on their own, but I don’t know if there are politicians who really reflect that.
Actually, Graham Platner is very relevant and I’m interested in whether people trust him enough to elect him and whether he stays true to the principles he ran on.
If she won the congressional bid, she’d been sold out quicker than Fetterman.
Elizabeth Warren was a Republican who thought people used bankruptcy as a means of escaping personal liability.
Warren later recalled that she had begun her research believing that most people filing for bankruptcy were either working the system or had been irresponsible in incurring debts, but that she concluded that such abuse was in fact rare and that the legal framework for bankruptcy was poorly designed, describing the way the research challenged her fundamental beliefs as “worse than disillusionment” and “like being shocked at a deep-down level”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Warren
It was after that Elizabeth Warren moved to become more progressive about how bankruptcy laws and financial regulations.
Widely regarded as a progressive, she was previously a registered Republican, changing her registration to Democrat in 1996. According to Warren, in the six presidential elections she voted in before 1996, she cast her ballot for just one GOP nominee—Gerald Ford in 1976. Her conservatism at the time was not rooted in social issues like abortion or gay rights, but rather on economic policy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Elizabeth_Warren
Ooh, thank you! I may wish she were further left, but I don’t doubt that she earnestly believes in the views she says she holds, which was what I was wondering.
Does anyone know of any examples of politicians swinging hard in the opposite direction?
I just learned today that Hitler was a lefty in his early days. True story.
He was always anti-Semitic though. That wasn’t unusual for the times however.
Someone describing themselves as a tree hugging progressive railing against supporting society’s most vulnerable can go and fuck themselves with a fishing rod though.
You’d be looking at some early 20th century interpretations of leftism though, which is an important nuance. Lenin was a member of the Russian Social Democrats, but most people probably wouldn’t attribute his legacy to Social Democracy.
Yeah very true. It all has to be viewed through the ol’ historic lens.
Mussolini too, hence “Benito’s earlier work”. Not sure it makes much of difference considering the end result.
woman of color serving as strategist for the racist party… seems like she could make better choices.
