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    I was just arguing with my mom about this and she said it’s good people are losing the benefits because she knows people don’t need SNAP, despite needing them herself.

    She then went on to name a few people who receive $800 for their 5 kids and simply sell the card to someone else to get cash for drugs and ask me how to solve that problem.

    Reporting the abuse it wasn’t an option.

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      perhaps worth pointing out too… focusing on the minimal abuse as a reason the whole program should be cut is very american. i think the rest of the world the attitude is much more that a thing is necessary and abuse is a cost of doing business (like shoplifting: just because there’s some shoplifting doesn’t mean you close the whole store)… it’s very much nobody “undeserving” should get rewarded before people need help

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          had to search for that :p yeah aye - we had the same in aus (called jobkeeper)… our conservatives introduced it, and it was hugely successful at keeping people employed but also massively abused by big companies

          https://www.thenewdaily.com.au/finance/finance-news/2021/09/03/jobkeeper-rorts

          i think this quote pretty accurately describes it

          JobKeeper is both the largest rort in Australian history and the most successful job saver

          overall there were some reports written about it after the fact: lessons learned etc, but i think people don’t really blame the conservatives for the abuse… it was a programme that was quickly conceived of, and implemented very fast and it achieved a very important purpose. was it wasteful? sure… was it or something like it necessary? also very much yes

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          I have a business that was fully shut down for the pandemic quarantine, and I applied for PPP numerous times, and got turned down for a different reason every time. If the PPP wasn’t meant for businesses like mine, who were directly closed because of the quarantine, than who was it intended for?

          Then I realized - It was a MAGA program, of course it was a scam. It wasn’t meant for me, I’m an honest, ethical business owner.

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      Yeah that sounds about like the line of reasoning I’d expect from conservatives in my family. The problem is that you gave them something at all. They made you a sucker. Stop helping people. etc.

      They’d just terminate the thought there, and not move on to wonder if it could it be some other problem the system could help them with other than today’s cart of groceries. My goodness, they might accidentally save a life and not even know it!

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      She then went on to name a few people who receive $800 for their 5 kids and simply sell the card to someone else to get cash for drugs and ask me how to solve that problem.

      That problem is easy to solve. Just stop telling that lie, because that’s the only way that situation exists. It’s a complete MAGA fantasy.

      And if your mother gets SNAP, and is happy it’s gone, remember that about three weeks from now, when she’s begging you to buy her groceries. If you buy her anything, make it a big pack of ramen, and a couple of tins of sardines.

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    Bad choices of those on SNAP…

    1. Joined military to serve my country and this is how they treat me!
    2. Worked for government, got DOGE’d, and no one is hiring!
    3. Picked the wrong birth parents and at 6 no one will hire me!
    4. Lost job over 50 and those kids won’t hire me!
    5. Lost job to AI and I went to Standford!
    6. Pro-life and kept my baby! 7)…fill in the blank
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      Yeah so Vance’s wife did that in a video too. She sending out morse code or is it a tactic to try to look serious. Idk. It’s weird.

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    Yeah like choose to find places that will hire you rather than ones that say they went with someone else. Duh.

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    I see lots of people on Lemmy without much compassion for the people on the other team. I don’t see how both teams lacking compassion will fix this shit stain of a situation.

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        Food ought to be a human right and that extends to people who voted for an administration that’s trying to make that worse than it already is.

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          Food is a human right. I still have no compassion for people who would rather see me starving or dead…

          I can hold no compassion for people and still agree that they deserve to live. I’m not callous.

          Let me say it louder for the people that need to hear it.

          Everyone gets a plate but not everyone will have a place at the table.

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          If you’re defining compassion as believing everyone has the same human rights then I’ve got loads of it. The problem with the folks you’re talking about is that they don’t believe the same. Whether or not they deserve what they get or get what they deserve is out of scope for my definition of compassion.

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          I’m empathetic about their plight, but I feel no compassion. I’m sure the assholes who voted for the leopard and then got bit by the leopard are in a shitty situation. I hope things work out for them. I hope they don’t suffer too much, but I won’t lift a finger to help them.

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            I’d say I’m almost the opposite as you? I guess not really.

            I hope they do get bit, I hope it kinda sucks, but I absolutely will lift a finger to help them.

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    Yep. Make better choices at the ballot box. Unimpressed with your options in the ballot box? Make better choices in the primaries.

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        We really need multiple systems built out to inform people of when votes are happening that way there are no excuses and to make sure people get them

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      You think that people who use public assistance will be allowed to vote? Really?

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        Of course they will, so long as they stay voting for the GOP. The uneducated are one of their strongest voting blocs

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    Maybe if they WANTED to Eat they Shouldn’t have Voted for the Party who Promised to Take Away Their Food so they can Protect Pedophiles INSTEAD!

    -Republicans who will Continue to Vote Republican!

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    They can make a better choice this Tuesday (and, more importantly, in the mid-terms next year)

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    Lindy Li is so FOCKING insane and desperate for anyone to like to her. She was a Dem fundraiser for years, and after realizing that just working in the party wasn’t going to get her accepted as a candidate to get into office (because of her insanity), she switched to this ultra-MAGA psycho BS she’s spouting today.

    It’s attention whoring at its lowest in order to try and get into office anyway she can. She’s not well liked enough due to her clear mental instability, so she thinks hating on whomever the “other side” is will curry enough favor to get a fast track to…something.

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      well there you go. Sounds like she made some bad life choices.

      And to be fair, she’ll probably go far. Look at Steven Cheung. The more incompetent, foul-mouthed, and insane you are the more they want you out front.

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        Somehow I dbout MAGAs plan to vote for an Asian woman no matter how crazed and on their level she is. Only chance she’s got is though Trump directly, but she’s not white note plastic enough to make it on that level

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          Au contraire! A boob job, bleach blonde, some lip filler is exactly the kind of resumé dynamite the MAGA crowd goes for. $4000 and a handy-j to Lewandowski and CHOO CHOOO she’s on the grifting express.

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        They’re the type of nonwhite who believe they’re “the good ones” and will be accepted if they try hard enough. They desperately wish they were born white. They may not realize it but they will never be fully accepted.

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      Li previously ran as a Democratic candidate for Congress, describing herself as a “tree-hugging progressive,” and sought the endorsement of the Democratic Socialists of America. She lost her Congressional bid, and years later, shifted to the Republican Party and to becoming a strong supporter of Trump.

      Grifting clear as day

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      FUCKING… this is the god damned grown up internet where you can fucking swear all the fuck day long. This self censoring shit can stay on god damned reddit and youtube.

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    Li previously ran as a Democratic candidate for Congress, describing herself as a “tree-hugging progressive,” and sought the endorsement of the Democratic Socialists of America. She lost her Congressional bid, and years later, shifted to the Republican Party and to becoming a strong supporter of Trump.

    This person sounds like a grifter and has now found a more receptive audience.

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    This tracks because the GOP is the party of unqualified illtempered pedo loving dipshits… They target the vulnerable because they cherish them as delicacies. Then they blame the victim to assuage their atrophying pangs of guilt about how selfish and selfserving they’ve become in life and everything.

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      Sure, for the republicans that have even an ounce of introspection. But many of them are all-in on the hatred and cruelty. They loathe poor people and minorities. Reject them…