Still think giving him the benefit of the doubt is cool?

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    I’d also like to say, that if everyone starts pretending that Totenkopf was just a thing we all knew about like Swastikas, I’m going to lose it. This is a C tier Nazi emblem. You absolutely wouldn’t look twice at it in 99% of real-world situations.

    THAT’S THE FUCKING POINT OF DOG WHISTLES YOU DUNCE!

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      If it’s really C-tier then that’s only possible if the swastika occupies the A-tier and the SS runes are the only entry for B-tier; we really aren’t plumbing the depths of obscure, esoteric, possibly-fascist symbols here.

      Imagine caring so little that you’re oblivious to the third most widely recognizable Nazi symbol for your entire life and yet mysteriously you are brimming with opinions about Nazi symbols and all of a sudden it’s of overwhelming importance that you start discussing this.

      1. I’ll take the lead from people who actually know what they’re talking about and not the people who have been sleepwalking through a century-long discussion on one of the most studied and well-documented aspects of human history.

      2. This smacks of terminally-online curated concern. People will swear up and down that they’re concerned with x or y issue but they are completely incapable of showing any depth of understanding whatsoever of the subject itself. It’s the same old playbook - the Nayirah testimony, the CPC reannexing Tibet, the “Holodomor”… these people don’t actually care about what they have convinced themselves they care about. It’s some real Deleuzian shit.

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        Frankly I think that poster is a crypto-fascist trying to do crypto-fash-washing. It reads like the first three passages of the Narcissist Prayer.

        It isn’t a Nazi tattoo. It’s a skull tattoo.

        That didn’t happen

        Its missing the key feature of the SS skull, which are the cracks in the skull. It’s a skull tattoo that is entirely too close to a Totenkopf.

        And if it did, it wasn’t that bad

        I’d also like to say, that if everyone starts pretending that Totenkopf was just a thing we all knew about like Swastikas, I’m going to lose it. You absolutely wouldn’t look twice at it in 99% of real-world situations.

        And if it was, that’s not a big deal

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          Exactly, they are actively and maliciously spreading obvious nazi apologia and propaganda. Cf. Red Sails articles on Brainwashing and Propaganda

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        Supposing this “Croatian tattoo artist” is a real person, they 100% know about the Totenkopf. There is less than a zero percent chance that a US merc doesn’t know about the Totenkopf. You don’t accidentally get a tattoo that is geometrically identical to a nazi symbol save for two cracks. But it doesn’t matter. Liberals do not care about facts.

        The fact that they’re claiming ignorance while simultaneously splitting hairs about the literal hairline cracks of nazi iconography reveals that it’s bullshit and they know it. They just won’t come out and admit they don’t care about the nazi tattoo because they don’t give a flying fuck about the lives of nonwhites.

        These liberal nazis were calling the “the thing is not what it obviously is” tactic “Trumpian” less than half a decade ago. But the only reason they hated it is because he did it better than them. They have embraced it now, because they are Blue Trump, BlueMAGA.

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          I don’t want to be taken out of context here and it’s deep enough in the comment thread that this will get buried but the whole “Croatian tattoo artist” claim from a guy with a sketchy past who claims to have reformed yet has provided no evidence of reform except for words said online gives me really strong Beau of the Fifth Column vibes from back when he went on that podcast to claim that his human trafficking conviction, where he smuggled eastern European women into America to exploit their labour for the hotel industry for a few years before they went back home, was actually a humanitarian mission to rescue Jews from the oppressive government of Turkmenistan (or Tajikistan? I forget exactly but it was a central Asian -stan country that Americans have zero clue about.) It’s just super convenient and it has that whole “I have a girlfriend but you wouldn’t know her because she goes to a different high school in another state” vibe to it.

          The people coming out in defence of Platner are doing all the same things that people did when faced with criticisms of Beau as well.

          [CW: Human trafficking and sex slavery discussion from here on]

          (Sidebar: you can’t convince me that young Eastern European women smuggled into the US to work in the hotel industry while being paid a pittance so small it was illegal even under the dismal minimum wage laws in the US while being charged like hell for accommodation don’t end up in the sex trade. You absolutely cannot. Whether Beau was aware of it, whether he facilitated it directly, that’s a matter for speculation but the hotel industry itself is sketchy and that’s without the elements of human trafficking, exploitative pay and living conditions, and Beau holding passports for ransom. That’s no smoking gun for Beau trafficking women into the sex trade and I’ve never seen any evidence to support this but saying it didn’t happen is about as plausible as the people saying they were on Epstein island but only for a scientific conference.)