Just like idk I feel like every single person with a name attached who is doing the “free speech activist :'(” slowjerk over the “horrible” violence committed against Charlie Kirk should be remembered for that and actively dumped on at absolutely every opportunity, just sayin’

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    Every single day in this country someone dies directly because of the political decrees of the ruling class. Political violence is an every day occurance, its just normalized.

    Charlie Kirk didn’t die because he was exercising “free speech.” He was a war profiteer in the class war. He profited of the rise of open fascism as a paid agent of a billionaire.

    This being America I doubt the shooter had a coherent political view. But this is ulitmately a result of deteriorating conditions, that Kirk profited off helping create.

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    My response has just been extremely obtuse.

    “Charlie Kirk was shot”

    “Who?”

    “He’s a political commentator”

    “Oh. I’ve never heard of them. Where did this happen?”

    “At a college”

    “Oh another school shooting in America? That’s bad. They should really do something about the guns”

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        Well it is technically a shooting that occurred in a school, thankfully there were no human casualties. Very lucky that bullet landed in a pile of garbage and not a living being with a soul. I hope the shooter gets several hours of community service for unlawful discharge of a firearm,

  • My thoughts on this “We can’t have political violence 🥺” things is just , spare me the theatrics.

    Amerikkka kills political figures all across the world, they can fuck off with this “woe is me” bullshit.

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      All the liberals have to do is say nothing and if they’re criticized for saying nothing just point out how Kirk’s own ideology pushed for policies that allowed for what happened

      instead they said something

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      Looking PURELY at life and death matters, he was an antivaxxer whose rhetoric and speech certainly convinced people to not get vaccinated who then subsequently died from preventable causes. His death robs him of the opportunity to continue to spread poisonous language, and the world will be better for it.

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      It’s infuriating but that’s the point. They know it is. They paint the hateful crackers as saints but won’t even acknowledge the unjust murder of a brown-skinned family facilitated by people like Charlie Kirk. So when this happens, make sure you celebrate long and hard and rub it in their little faces.

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    “he had a wife and kids” fuck him so did hitler goebbels

    also workshopping “great their mother can actually find them a good father now” what do you all think?

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    My response is that this happens everyday to innocent Palestinians and they have more value than a venom spewing piece of shit that makes it his life’s duty to help make your lives worse

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    I have seen a few of these posts, and not a single one had rightoids expressing gratitude for the empathy. Every rightoid reply accuses the liberal of having cause this. Sometimes that’s the entire reply, just "YOU CAUSED THIS frothingfash " with no reasoning. I don’t understand why libs think they need to take the high road. Especially here. Charlie Kirk was a fascist and even if he were not a fascist, he would still be a stupid asshole. People that are sad about this because they liked Charlie Kirk on any level ought to be ridiculed. Fuck Charlie Kirk.

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    The dude spent every fucking day normalizing a society that harbored a wildly one-sided class war, where violence is only tolerated when it moves in one direction. It was literally his whole entire job to make it okay for the worst people alive to sow incalculable death and misery, and make it unacceptable to retaliate against it in any capacity.

    So really, I just can’t feel like this is anything but a fitting outcome.

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    Real “violence is not supposed to happen to our class and position in society” vibes from the manufacturing consent factories (news media, social media, etc)

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    I’ve seen some alright takes about the dangers of adventurism from this but honestly it just feels like fun policing rn. Save it for next week atleast

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        It can also undermine class struggle by weakening revolutionaries directly. Not just innocent third parties. Lenin lost his brother to adventurism. He was against it, because it’s not organized. If we started advocating for it, we would lose comrades. You could argue, that one could build orgs and support networks and everything to mitigate risks, and get the masses on our side first, but then it wouldn’t be adventurism anymore, just regular class struggle.

        The important thing about moments like this is to capture the revolutionary potential they reveal and funnel it into our orgs.

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            I don’t know in this case. I’m not from the US. But for example in the case of the health care CEO, it was plain to see, how even libs and conservatives were happy or at least didn’t condem it.

            Are there any libs who are on the fence maybe? Giving context about all the harm that person did and about the larger class struggle around it might help some people. Like, how the billionaires stole from us first, in order to pay this fascist to spread their lies.

            So, anyway, I think we’re still allowed to celebrate.

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      It always irks me, that fascists believe in god, so everything is pre determined. So fascists should calm the fuck down, the right things are happening and the right people will win

      Hilarious seeing people compare kirk dying to the Reichstag Fire 🤣 today is a day I wish I had a twitter account

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    For libs, just say that Charlie Kirk thought Biden stole the 2020 election and TPUSA was involved in Jan 6th. Kirk only began distancing himself and the org from Jan 6th once it turned violent. And it’s pretty obvious the org had at least some people there. If Falon Gong had their people there, it’s pretty obvious TPUSA would have their people there as well.

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    A woman on the train may or may not have seen a post referring to his death on my phone and opened her NYT app and said “oh my god” out loud.

    I reply yeah i just saw that. She says something about how she can’t believe it. I mention that it’s Utah, they just passed looser open carry laws, whoever did it probably just walked right in.

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    my partner got all uppity and pissed off at me when she said no one deserves to die for using their right to freezepeach and i told her this guy did… good thing we don’t have any guns in this house

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      Sure, I’ll just use my freedom to spend over 80 million dollars a year agitating for my side of the class war. I’ll just do this real quick. Should be easy because of freedom /s

      The billionaires who oppress us paid this fascist and his giant org to spread their lies and hate speech with our stolen wages. Profits are theft and speech doesn’t happen in a vacuum. The missing context is class war. The means to reach people are contested and certainly not free.

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      I think it’s perfectly fine to do something to someone if they advocate for it but that’s just me! Fuck being tolerant of nazi speech.

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      This guy literally argued that people getting shot is an acceptable price to pay for loose gun control. Getting shot while defending the right of people to be able to shoot him is what he would have wanted.