• Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    Conservatives deciding that “let the socialists win” is actually a good idea to convince people socialism is bad because they genuinely sincerely believe their own propaganda is possibly the funniest possible thing that could happen.

    Like, I actually believe this could happen because they swallow their own propaganda ALL THE TIME.

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    Rent control have these clowns absolutely panicking but concentration camps and threatening to go to war with your own cities is normal. I could do a thousand “see from other perspectives and common ground” hours and I will never understand these people. thats-why-im-confused

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      Liberalism stratifies people into tiers of value. At the top are billionaires, below that smaller capitalists, below that wealthy professional workers, below that imperial core workers, &c. &c. until at the very bottom are working class in the imperial periphery. If harm toward a person in a lower tier has badness value 1, then harm toward a person a tier above them has badness value n, where n is an arbitrary number so large that no amount of violence against those in the lower tiers could result in a number comparable to it; comparisons are only possible within a given stratum because the differences in value between tiers are unbridgeably vast. For examples of this, see: how they talk about Alexei vs. how they talk about (or rather don’t talk about) peasant children killed in the Russian Civil War, how much attention they give to imperial soldiers killed in wars vs. the people they’re bombing, the Soviet famine of 1930–1933 vs. the Bengal famine.

      (For anyone here who does programming, the analogy I’m probably poorly trying to make is to Big O notation)

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        (For anyone here who does programming, the analogy I’m probably poorly trying to make is to Big O notation)

        A small o notation would work somewhat better here, as big O just tells us about final boundedness of a function given a topological filter, and also doesn’t tell us how the function behaves compared to previous 'n’s.
        With small o notation, you could order the tiers starting from the wealthiest/most influential/etc. This way, you could go for something like ‘the way violence against people of tier n is considered/respected/recognised (on some relevant scale) is o(n) (with the topological filter n->inf’. o(n) given some topological filter F is a set of functions that can be represented as n multiplied by some other function that has the limit of 0 given the topological filter F, basically. The expression ‘f(n) = o(n) [given topological filter F]’ can be read as ‘f is infinitely small relative to n [given topological filter F]’.

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      Not to be as similar to them as possible, but when you take their own pill and stop seeing them as fully functional people, it becomes real fucking easy to understand them

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    found this absolute bloomer banger in the comments

    On day one Mamdani will issue an edict much like Bragg did on his first day. The reign of communist terror will start immediately. Mamdani will rule like a dictator regardless of rules and laws. He will be, in the end, the mirror image of Trump but on the “ Hate America “ side.

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      I live here (yeah yeah opsec but there’s like 8 million people here so I don’t care) and I’m rent stabilized and it’s awesome.

      One cool thing about the system here is that it’s extremely easy to get your landlord fined you can just get the housing department to come over they look at the problem and they fine them no questions asked.

      A lot of these landlords literally just eat the fines though until they feel like doing something it’s really gross

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    Honestly, the playbook of getting an insignificant progressive elected and pinning real, imagined, and manufactured economic troubles on that official as a way of discrediting anything remotely left could work. However, being the mayor of the city of Wall Street is too symbolically important if nothing else.

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      this article is basically screaming at his fellow conservatives “HEY! idiots! stop trying to interfere with the election and just do the normal thing we do of sabotaging leftists in power! doing what you are doing just makes socialism seem cool and dangerous!”

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      If Mamdani gets stripped of his citizenship (on the basis of being a communist) and gets removed from power, he’d be a comrade plant for all intents and purposes and I hope people wouldn’t be weird ultras about it

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        Lot of Democrats supported the laws allowing the executive branch to strip citizenship. What worldview would One have to have not realizing we would have future executive branches that would not be trustworthy with this power?

        But as far as they’re concerned that would be a good thing so far.

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            The lawmakers that passed laws in recent history of both parties giving the Executive Branch the unilateral power to strip a naturalized citizen of citizenship were short-sighted.

            Even though the ones who did vote for that would relish mamdami being stripped of citizenship almost as much as all of the anti-israel protesters they are talking of denaturalizing.

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              two rightwing parties collaborating to play good cop/bad cop with deportations isn’t short-sighted, it’s just Western Government working as intended

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                The good cop actors think so anyway. Bad cop is now playing King of the Hill, the hitler variant.

                Somehow they just do not realize that yet, thinking it is all performative and the conservatives will not follow through on fixing elections and Locking up their opponents and critics and Subordinating the media.

                Which will happen in the UK as well. And france, italy, spain, germany, the netherlands, etc. Unless they becomes some popular reform option that is not the far right supported by hostile foreign actors like Russia in the United States.

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                  yeah, the executive power stuff is terrifying, but it’s not just about who’s in charge or which party is playing bad cop. it’s about what the whole system is built to do. both sides enable it because they serve capital.

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                  international-community-1international-community-2 has a long history of hitler-detector. Yes, it is becoming more overt.

                  Can I ask what this has to do with Lussy’s comment? Do you think we support a US government even if it became so emboldened to strip Mamdani’s citizenship instead of opting for a CIA-sponsored assassin?

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    Take it from me, Charles Gasparino, owner and proprietor of Gasparino & Sons’ Sanitation, Limousine and Luxury Car Services, these people don’t respect the American Dream the same as a respectable business man like me or my fawtha before me, Little Chucky G., owner and proprietor of Gasparino & Sons’ Sanitation, Salvage and Haulage, or his fawtha before him, my grandfawtha, Salvatore Santino Massimo Gasparino, owner and proprietor of Gasparino & Sons’ Sewage Hauling & Meat Processing.