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    Want this news months ago? How are they “releasing” months old news? Or at least weeks old. I forget and have trouble keeping up with all his depressing antics.

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      It was reported by the WSJ, they didn’t release the image and of course Trump and his minions said it was all made up. But we can now see Trump’s shitty drawing (it’s creepier than anyone imagined) and the WSJ reporting is now confirmed.

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        I know I’ve seen the image before now tho. Or maybe just an approximation based on a description? Dunno but it looks familiar. And not just because it reminds me of that level design in that Kirby game.

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          It was an approximation. I don’t remember who exactly recreated the drawing, but the only difference between that and the actual one is that the woman’s body in the actual letter looks decidedly less… “mature”.

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    This whole Epstein stuff is a test of how willing some people are to gargle balls and simply believe a “nope, didn’t do it” defense.

    It’s been said time and time again, man could literally decapitate multiple people on national TV, camera zoomed in, and still drop the “nope, didn’t do” line at the end and his cult would agree.

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      The cult will, of course, claim that a Democrat, even one of the conservative ones, wanting to feed children is actually going to lead to everyone dying.

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        Depends on if the ballot of the maga voter he shot would still legally count posthumerously.

        Wait nvm, he’s a maga, no way he actually voted early, since that’s what “woke libs” do.

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      Yup.

      Anyone still ignoring…fuck…where do I even begin? The probable pedophilia. The repeated violations of the Constitution. The felonies. The rape conviction. The open admission of sexual assault. The clear abuse of the stock market for his personal gain. Threatening American cities with the military.

      It just goes on and on. Anyone still ignoring this is undeniably a traitor to the United States of America. So, basically, every fucking conservative in this country.

      These people aren’t just misled anymore. They’re our enemies. They’re America’s enemies. Period.

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    I don’t get it. They all know it. There are court testimonies. Knowing 10% of the facts, even a child with two brain cells can make the connection. Why are they all acting like it’s the-thing-that-must-not-be-named or something?

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    I voted for Trump. There is 0 defense for the stuff he’s doing. The best thing I’ve heard is all the higher ups are “apart of a club” that we’re not in. No matter the side, I just want to world better for everyone.

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      Why the fuck did you vote trump then?!?! Better for everyone?!?! Everyone told you he was going to do all this shit. I blame you. I blame every dumb mother fucker that is just like you. You ruined america because youre a fucking moron. Fuck you, asshole.

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      “Apart” means distanced from. “A part” means a piece of.

      They’re not the same word. Of course, if you had received an education that had taught you the difference, then you wouldn’t have voted for trump.

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      I want the World BETTER for Everyone so I Voted for the Man who Campaigned on LITERALLY making the World WORSE for the Majority of People!

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        Fuck this dude. Anyone that thought a vote for trump was a vote for everyone’s wellbeing is a fucking moron.

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        Given what they said regarding disagreeing with Trump’s current actions, why did you feel like your response was the best way to engage?
        After the repeated examples over the last decade, I think everyone in the world should have learned by now that shame, aggression, and shade dripping with schadenfreude doesn’t change opinions or actions.
        If you are truly concerned about making things worse for others, you might want to examine the way you interact with other human beings. Because the short term dopamine isn’t worth contributing to the division that’s been made worse by targeted, algorithmic influence.
        We are all being fed a curated version of reality designed to appeal to our biases and stoke fear and outrage. I think we need to learn to show some grace to people who we don’t fully agree with, who are trying to reach across the divide, and who might be coming to terms with the ways in which they may have been misled or caught up in an enticing movement.
        And I’m not saying this is easy. It certainly isn’t satisfying. I love barbed and bitter witicisms. Being shitty to someone who I feel deserves it scratches this itch in my brain that I am neither proud of, nor can deny. But it’s also the definition of being selfish, since it helps no one. So idk, you do you I guess?

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        I’m literally with you guys that he’s not done good. But his promises were made to make things better for the working man, which hasn’t been done. My state might be different than yours, but both candidates would’ve crippled us. Joe was plagued with dementia and Harris is just as bad. We really didn’t have any good candidates this time.

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          “Harris is just as bad”

          Mind elaborating on why you think a sensible, middle-aged experienced prosecutor with decades of contacts in government was somehow just as bad as two 80-something year olds, and how you concluded that the best vote was for the guy literally wanting to be a dictator and who was following the project 2025 playbook to destroy America for Putin, was somehow your best choice ?

          Honestly, I have run out of patience with people who try to frame it trump somehow being their best choice of terrible options.

          I guess the only way to get through to you was to let him win so you could see it for yourself.

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          Why do you think a billionaire elite would even care about the working man, let alone make the world a better place for them? That kind of world wouldn’t allow them to be a billionaire in the first place.

          Also, Trump has shown a lot more dementia than Joe. Even before the elections.

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            What you said goes for all of them. But that’s the idea of having a president, someone who is supposed to be for the people. So what do you do?

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              If you could go back in time would you vote for Harris knowing what you know now?

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        I never thought he was a “good” choice per se, but I live in a very economically deprived state where we all basically suffer here, we just help each other. He made a lot of promises he didn’t keep, and a few were specifically geared towards us. He betrayed a lot of people.

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          You thought the candidate who made 30,573 documented lies during his first term was the guy you could trust to keep his promises ?

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            It is what it is, I hate how it’s went but another couple of years and we will be in the same boat again, no matter the party affiliation. Hopefully the next one is able to rebound everything.

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              No rebounding is going to happen for many presidential terms. It’s much easier, and faster, to destroy than to build up. The damage to investment and trade relationships being done, and the dismantling of worker protections and support for industry and job development, is going to take decades to reclaim.

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                This is the really depressing part that people really aren’t understanding. We’ve had bad leadership before, but none that have done this much irreparable damage in such a short amount of time with effects that are making the entire world worse for the foreseeable future. But yeah, Harris would have been the same /s

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                And that’s not even considering all the skilled government workers who have been fired and won’t be coming back in 2028. Or the loss of reputation internationally, or the loss of business from companies who have made alternative arrangements and are no longer doing business with the US

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              I think community organizing is the key. Whether it is direct participation, or supporting local/independent initiatives, or trying to influence the established parties in your area. The bad actors thrive on division, misinformation, inaction, and apathy. And the common refrain is that people don’t have the resources, time or bandwidth to educate themselves or to contribute. More people need to see the redistribution of wealth upwards as a form of control. Measures that erode workers rights, equality, etc. further disempowers anyone not in the upper echelons [even those in the upper class but not in the ruling class]. We need to be willing to make sacrifices/concessions if it will benefit those with fewer advantages than ourselves specifically because they make up the foundations that allow us to exist as high up the chain as we currently are [even if that doesn’t feel very high]

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    Clinton met with Netanyahu in the Oval Office in February 1997. Subsequently, according to testimony Lewinsky gave to the special counsel’s office, Clinton’s secretary Bettie Currie reached out to Lewinsky to invite her to an Oval Office meeting, telling her Clinton “had something important to tell her.”

    It would turn out to be their final sexual encounter, but Clinton also used the opportunity to tell her that “a foreign embassy” had tapped his phone and recorded their conversation, Lewinsky said. Clinton did not specify which embassy, though the meeting with Lewinsky came the month after his meeting with Netanyahu.

    https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/did-benjamin-netanyahu-blackmail

    This is the picture Jeffrey Epstein had hanging in his house

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      This is all cool and funky, but Clinton is not the POTUS ! Donny 2 Inches is POTUS, and is the one engaged in this cover up.

      Why do magats struggle to understand that more than one person can be guilty at the same time? Why does this inability always provide excuses for Donny 2 Weeks?

      You can hang Clinton, if he’s guilty, right next to the decaying corpse of Donny 2 Dolls, who is the far greater danger to little children everywhere.

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        Wow you are so smart, I never thought of that! Since you’re so clever, maybe you can answer a question I’ve been pondering:

        Do you think Jeffrey Epstein was the first or the only guy blackmailing politicians for Israel?

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          Why do you think Jeffrey Epstein needed to blackmail the current POTUS for Israel?

          They were friends. Connected by the same debauchery.

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            The lines blur over many years. Trump associated with the Italian and Russian mob as well. While the former collapsed in the United States, I believe the latter got Kompromat on his filthy ass as well. He’s not very smart and he can’t help himself, therefore he’s at the mercy of his various handlers.

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      I don’t doubt for a second this was Epstein’s true “purpose”, and that he collected blackmail material (or kompromat, as you prefer) for multiple intelligence agencies, including the CIA and FBI.

      This is why Barr had him killed. A bunch of old-school republican and Democratic monsters were in those videos.

      This whole thing underscores how weak the corporate news sewers are. They’re really poorly done PR, with very occasional random acts of journalism actually making it out the door.

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        They regularly squash stories that would be sensational and make them money. This is how we know they have been completely captured now.

        This was never more evident than when every news agency reported the words of Maxwell, the child rapist pimp liar, that Trump did nothing wrong for three weeks straight

        When the survivors showed up to tell their story crickets. They don’t even care about things that would make them a shit ton of money if it means hurting the interests of people who own them.

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          It was that way in 2016 when they tried to sell that whole “Oh he’s not that bad” bullshit. And in 2003 when they helped lie us into war. Again. And in 2000 when the SCROTUS threw the election to Bush. Etc. Nothing changes except how patient the earth is with us.

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            For real, and if you look in history it goes all the way back the revolutionary war. It was always really messed up.

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    Even if we ignore the doodle

    And that given all we know about about trump and Epstein, we know that the inside joke between them here is about pedophila, or at the very least about them being creepy misogynistic sex pests.

    And let’s assume that despite everything we know about them that somehow this is about something inane, like a shared love of football, or model railroading, or going to McDonald’s for hamberders or something.

    Can we agree that this is just a really fucking weird and creepy way to write a birthday letter? Someone tells you they’re going to put together a book of letters from friends for someone’s birthday and this is what you spit out? The script of some weird scenario you imagined where the two of you are responding to a voiceover and jerking each other off about your shared hobby?

    If I got a letter, card, Facebook post, message, etc. like this from someone I know, I’d ask them if they’re alright because that’s a fucking weird way to send a birthday message.

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      Surprised they didn’t use the corporate favorite…“controversial”.

      Every time I see some corporate outlet using the term “controversial”, I think of bluegal and driftglass saying “say ‘controversial’ one more fucking time…”

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        MAGA isn’t just saying it was a hoax, Trump has personally sued the WSJ for defamation over it. They reported that the letter existed, and Trump’s lawsuit says it doesn’t. So, this directly implicates Trump lying in court filings.

        And even though the Trump Administration has done all sorts of unprecedented things, there is a precedent for what happens when a sitting President misrepresents himself to a court. No, Trump didn’t testify under oath, but I am pretty sure that when you file a lawsuit you have to attest to it’s truth…

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          there is a precedent for what happens when a sitting President misrepresents himself to a court

          We could only wish. Chances of it happening? <0% unless there is a massive sea change in 2026.

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          It was described but never shown in earlier articles. Now seeing the original, it seems far worse, because that pic is definitely of a tween, and it looks like her arms are tied behind her.

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          I did see a similar letter like this before. Seems to have been a recreation based off the description given though. This is the actual scan of the letter, the original.

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          It was just a description. Now we have the actual thing.

          You know, “pictures paint 1000 words” and all that jazz.

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    His name is way less pubie than early mockups illustrated.

    Still creepy AF.

    Also, Trump doesn’t know how to draw boobs.

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        That gives him credit for being artistically skilled. Maybe, maybe not. I don’t think we need this as evidence when we have actual pictures of him hanging around with very young women, testimony, plus maybe even some files with his name placing him in certain situations. This is just more stuff for the pile, regardless of artistic accuracy.

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            I mean, they also insisted there must be an alternative to the rapist in chief being a pedophile.

            Friendly reminder that lemmy has plenty of chuds on it.

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            I get it and agree. I just don’t know if all of them were below 18 or not, and I didn’t want to say females because that would get its own replies.

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              Just say children. If they were above 18 then there isn’t a legal issue.

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                Whether or not there was proper consent is absolutely a legal issue. So is rape at any age.

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      Didn’t Trump say he was terrible at drawing? This actually lines up with that.

      I’ll bet he saw the mockup and thought that was what was uncovered. His dumb monkey brain thought he was in the clear because they found a copycat.