• unconsequential@slrpnk.net
    3·
    29 days ago

    So very close to identifying the patriarchy and that men are victims of it too, and then wild miss at the end. sigh so, so close.

    • Khrux@ttrpg.networkEnglish
      2·
      27 days ago

      I could tell from mthe outset that this was going to be sexist, probably the fact it took the stance of “men do x” over “men also do x”, but I didn’t anticipate the final line being outright misogyny.

      There is less pre-modern art by women because women were either censored or indoctrinated into roles where they couldn’t create, which is the primary sin of the patriarchy.

      There is a myth of men knowing love because the myth of the powerful, rational man doesn’t accommodate for this, and what perpetuates that myth? That’s right, the patriarchy again.

      It’s heartbreaking to see someone see through the patriarchal myth of masculinity and arrive at the conclusion that men are objectively better at creation and love than women

      • da_cow (she/her)@feddit.org
        0·
        28 days ago

        That’s a small group of people. Not feminism as a whole. Feminism in general aims at overcoming the patriarchy and therefore creating true equality between the genders. Overcoming the patriarchy also means, that men are liberated from its chains. This means, that men are allowed to cry and show feelings without being judged.

        Feminism is not something, that aims at dragging men down, but eleveting society as a whole.

        • MacN'Cheezus@lemmy.todayOP
          0·
          28 days ago

          As I said…

          men don’t universally conform to a stereotype

          Not all men are part of the patriarchy, because some of them are victims of it

          therefore they must all confirm to a different stereotype

          Therefore all men should become feminists

          also men bad

          But men are still the cause of all the evil in the world

  • Taalnazi@lemmy.world
    1·
    29 days ago

    Fake: Anon almost manages to question whether there’s a problem with predatory culture, but fails at it.

    Gay: literally the post, anon worships men

    Real answer, up until the last parts Anon was doing so well. The issue is that a lot of women fear men because unlike bears, a lot of them have bad apples who can manipulate well, and they are also likely to harass for longer… a bear will just maul you or chill, much simpler, more predictable.

  • Lvxferre [he/him]@mander.xyz
    0·
    29 days ago

    Anon, tell me you’ve never read Sappho without saying “I never read Sappho”:

    Some say an army of horsemen,
some of footsoldiers, some of ships,
is the fairest thing on the black earth,
but I say it is what one loves.

It’s very easy to make this clear
to everyone, for Helen,
by far surpassing mortals in beauty,
left the best of all husbands

and sailed to Troy,
mindful of neither her child
nor her dear parents, but
with one glimpse she was seduced by

Aphrodite. For easily bent...
and nimbly...[missing text]...
has reminded me now
of Anactoria who is not here;

I would much prefer to see the lovely
way she walks and the radiant glance of her face
than the war-chariots of the Lydians or
their footsoldiers in arms.
      • Lvxferre [he/him]@mander.xyz
        1·
        29 days ago

        In case you are not joking:

        This was translated from Ancient Greek. Of course it won’t rhyme; Ancient Greek poetry is based on foot and pitch, not rhymes. And even if it used rhymes the translation would butcher them.

        Calling it garbage because it doesn’t rhyme is like looking at a translation of Shakespeare into Japanese, and saying it’s garbage because Shakespeare was a functional illiterate that couldn’t count morae.

        Regardless, the poem already shows a woman talking about romantic love around 600 BCE. It’s already enough to tear apart what Anon is saying. Insert mentions of patriarchy here.

        If you’re joking: derp.