• SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
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      Why is wanting things to get better instead of stagnating or getting worse somehow impossible to understand?

      When the Duopoly exists to ratchet us twoards fascism then the only way out is to abandon the Duopoly.

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        Voting / politics is a chess game. Sometimes you have to plan ahead and work from behind and sacrifice some positions. Refusing to play the pieces you have (even from a losing position) is just letting the opponent win.

        If there’s a better primary challenger than Newsom, a Progressive candidate, I’m all for them. I want them. I don’t want Newsom, but if it comes down to him or another trump clone, Newsom is good enough to at least keep us from societal collapse.

        Refusing to vote for him because he’s not a perfect fit is just giving the enemy a win. See: all those who refused to vote for Harris and now we have trump.

        There’s no viable 3rd party candidate. Probably never will be.

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          Lmao i saw this same comment in 2016

          Just save this post and you can use it every 8 years until we are killing each other for clean water

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            Ok. So how do we “abandon the duopoly?” Honest question. If you have a viable suggestion, I am all for it. Because refusing to vote is what trump wants you to do.

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          • abandons Trans people
          • proudly attacks the homeless
          • backs the neoliberal policies that got us to where we are today
          • does performative actions, instead of actual policy

          …not a perfect fit…

          I think your view of “perfect” might be different than most people

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              Well, maybe the Democrats could put up a candidate that the voters want, for a change.

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                  Then we’re fucked. Start looking at parties and organizations that are doing something to help out, instead of simping for a party that is actively supporting the fascists.

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                    So to use another analogy, I’d rather “tread water” (vote for the lesser of two evils) in this river of raw sewage we’re stuck in, rather than “drown” in it (let greater evil win by voting against the lesser evil).

                    At least while treading water, we can still try to find someone who is doing something to help out.

                    For fuck’s sake, I’m not “simping for Newsom,” I’m just aware that he’s better than trump. At least we can see the horizon with him.