Probably the correct answer for the wrong reasons. Sex work (I assume) still exists in China, but OF seemed predatory for both the consumers and the models. My understanding of the platform is based on a small amount of info from a while back, but I’m guessing it’s only gotten worse since then.
The only models that make noticeable money need to do A LOT to get to that point — there was (is) this weird impression that attractive women can just sell nudes and get out of having to do real work, but the reality is that OF is very competitive.
For consumers, I’m pretty sure you need to enter a payment method just to make an account, even if you only want free content. That means they can hijack your body’s strongest urges to get you to buy more content. And then there’s the whole thing with 3rd parties catfishing people.
Traditional porn industries are still banned in China. So they aren’t being hypocritical in this decision, even if there are those that disagree with the decision on its own merit.
get out of having to do real work, but the reality is that OF is very competitive
Define “real work” and have you seen the job market. All the qualifications and experience in the world can’t land you an “entry level” job. And if you do “qualify” it’s for shit pay and hours that will make you insane.
Yeah it’s a real hot take that’s for sure, but I agree with the other points. If someone is able to get outside the system and do work via OF or streaming or w/e I say good on them.
there was (is) this weird impression that attractive women can just
It’s the impression, there’s an impression that sex work is just taking a picture of you naked in the mirror and making money, which is an impression and a misrepresentation of that field.
Yeah you can’t be saying “se workers are workers and deserve rights” and 5 words later repeat the incel talking point that “sex workers don’t really do anything compared to a ‘real’ job”. You’re creating surplus value and being paid for your labor, it’s a real job in that sense. Not even under Graeber’s definition of a bullshit job is sex work not actual work.
I am saying the impression, the way it’s advertised, only fans advertising, the way they advertise it is that it’s simple work or no work at all.
here I’ll analyze every word I gave
“it’s the impression”
impression: an idea, feeling, or opinion about something or someone, especially one formed without conscious thought or on the basis of little evidence.
“an impression that sex work is just taking a picture of you naked in the mirror and making money”
there is an idea based on the advertising done that doing only fans is simply just taking some pictures of yourself and getting paid a lot, which in reality there’s far more than that, yet no where did I state it’s not a real work.
“which is an impression and a misrepresentation of that field.”
I again say that the previous statement is an impression people have, an idea without basis, and a misrepresentation of that field
misrepresentation: the action or offence of giving a false or misleading account of the nature of something.
Before OF, the avenues women had to monetize themselves were nearly non existent or leagues more dangerous than OF. I truly don’t see how the platform is exploitative of women, relatively speaking.
Something like only the top 1% of performers make a livable wage, with an even smaller percent getting “retire at 23” money. While previous websites (like Backpage and Craigslist) were more exploitative/dangerous, OnlyFans and its knockoffs sell the illusion of a better lifestyle and easy money, when the reality is you’re making less than Uber drivers.
And since anything on the internet is there forever, you can easily lose control of your content (which runs into issues like revenge porn, consent, etc.). We still live in a world that shames sex workers, so having all your stuff out there can impact future jobs. How much responsibility OnlyFans has to protect its creators’ content is still undecided like all gig work.
It’s shitty that someone could post their nudes and make all of $50, never move up the ladder, move on to a different career, then get fired from their teaching job ten years later because those photos surfaced.
This is also a very American-centric view on my part. Conditions and attitudes towards sex work are obviously going to be different in China. I do think making money on that platform isn’t as easy as advertised and misleads a lot of sex workers about how money is earned. They also don’t get health insurance/benefits, either, because it’s like Lyft and Doordash.
I knew a girl who had an OF and made OK money out of it, enough to to pay rent while she was in college basically.
There was still a reddit community dedicated to posting her photos, with multiple thousands of subscribers. She didn’t get paid for any of that traffic, and Reddit didn’t let her file a DMCA to take down a community dedicated to posting her stolen work.
She had to file individual requests for each post that was on there, at least that was the case the last time I spoke to her.
You could argue that it opened up the market a lot, bringing in women that wouldn’t otherwise do SW. That could also be because of the COVID economic crisis. There were a lot of women trapped in bad situations around 2020.
Taken from the true_anon sub about this.
OF is leagues less scuzzy than the traditional porn production companies, but still has its problems and scuzziness.
Traditional porn industries are still banned in China. So they aren’t being hypocritical in this decision, even if there are those that disagree with the decision on its own merit.
Oh yeah that was a general statement, not specific to China’s decision
Define “real work” and have you seen the job market. All the qualifications and experience in the world can’t land you an “entry level” job. And if you do “qualify” it’s for shit pay and hours that will make you insane.
Yeah it’s a real hot take that’s for sure, but I agree with the other points. If someone is able to get outside the system and do work via OF or streaming or w/e I say good on them.
It’s the impression, there’s an impression that sex work is just taking a picture of you naked in the mirror and making money, which is an impression and a misrepresentation of that field.
Yeah you can’t be saying “se workers are workers and deserve rights” and 5 words later repeat the incel talking point that “sex workers don’t really do anything compared to a ‘real’ job”. You’re creating surplus value and being paid for your labor, it’s a real job in that sense. Not even under Graeber’s definition of a bullshit job is sex work not actual work.
I am saying the impression, the way it’s advertised, only fans advertising, the way they advertise it is that it’s simple work or no work at all.
here I’ll analyze every word I gave
“it’s the impression”
impression: an idea, feeling, or opinion about something or someone, especially one formed without conscious thought or on the basis of little evidence.
“an impression that sex work is just taking a picture of you naked in the mirror and making money”
there is an idea based on the advertising done that doing only fans is simply just taking some pictures of yourself and getting paid a lot, which in reality there’s far more than that, yet no where did I state it’s not a real work.
“which is an impression and a misrepresentation of that field.”
I again say that the previous statement is an impression people have, an idea without basis, and a misrepresentation of that field
misrepresentation: the action or offence of giving a false or misleading account of the nature of something.
Are you able to understand a concept without getting mad at it?
Before OF, the avenues women had to monetize themselves were nearly non existent or leagues more dangerous than OF. I truly don’t see how the platform is exploitative of women, relatively speaking.
Something like only the top 1% of performers make a livable wage, with an even smaller percent getting “retire at 23” money. While previous websites (like Backpage and Craigslist) were more exploitative/dangerous, OnlyFans and its knockoffs sell the illusion of a better lifestyle and easy money, when the reality is you’re making less than Uber drivers.
And since anything on the internet is there forever, you can easily lose control of your content (which runs into issues like revenge porn, consent, etc.). We still live in a world that shames sex workers, so having all your stuff out there can impact future jobs. How much responsibility OnlyFans has to protect its creators’ content is still undecided like all gig work.
It’s shitty that someone could post their nudes and make all of $50, never move up the ladder, move on to a different career, then get fired from their teaching job ten years later because those photos surfaced.
This is also a very American-centric view on my part. Conditions and attitudes towards sex work are obviously going to be different in China. I do think making money on that platform isn’t as easy as advertised and misleads a lot of sex workers about how money is earned. They also don’t get health insurance/benefits, either, because it’s like Lyft and Doordash.
I knew a girl who had an OF and made OK money out of it, enough to to pay rent while she was in college basically.
There was still a reddit community dedicated to posting her photos, with multiple thousands of subscribers. She didn’t get paid for any of that traffic, and Reddit didn’t let her file a DMCA to take down a community dedicated to posting her stolen work.
She had to file individual requests for each post that was on there, at least that was the case the last time I spoke to her.
Bro trust me. It’s totally not exploitative bro.
Nah some zionist stealing 30% of the $30 you made in subscription fees this month so he can donate it to the IOF is totally not exploiting you bro
You could argue that it opened up the market a lot, bringing in women that wouldn’t otherwise do SW. That could also be because of the COVID economic crisis. There were a lot of women trapped in bad situations around 2020.
You aren’t really winning any hearts and minds here advocating and defending pimpery
You mean prostitution? I’m not advocating for ‘pimpery’
Prostitution can be done without pimps. OnlyFans is a pimp
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