Palestinians are being exterminated in Gaza for almost two years now.
Palestine Action, the only Western org that’s actually doing something to stop the genocide, has been proscribed in the UK, meaning anyone supporting them, including supporting them on social media, will be hit with terrorist charges for supporting “terrorism.”
Is everyone here having constant offscreen adventures on the rest of lemmy? I haven’t commented off Hexbear in over a year
I’m most active on Lemmy.ml, but it looks like that is going to swing back to being more active here for a while. I go back and forth.
I feel like despite these bait posts by banarchsits you still get through to a lot of people across instances. Many of your comments are quite enlightening and I’ve seen many come around to some form of understanding that what they think socialism/communism is was just bullshit they learned in history class and reddit.
Please don’t give up on these libs for they know not what they know
Thanks, I appreciate it! People have thanked me directly for helping them and cited me as one of the reasons why they came around to accepting more Marxist viewpoints, which has helped a lot in motivating me. I do tend to take breaks, though, depending on what I’ve got going on IRL or if I just need a good break from being so online. I appreciate the kind words!
Yeah I turned off ‘all’ so long ago, too many star trek and science memes filled up my front page. They all felt like reddit spillover memes. Plus my blood pressure probably improved not seeing the lib shit on my lib-free (everyone except me is a lib) instance
To be fair, we have a pretty significant spillover from reddit here as well, like at least half of the posts I see on r/TrueAnon or r/ShitLiberalsSay or whatever eventually end up on Hexbear lol
Definitely, but those are good. With spillover I hoped to insinuate like a toilet overflowing and Lemmy getting the piss and shit water that overflows. We at least curate ouders hahaha
There’s nothing more annoying than Star Trek loving chuds
Yeah, I barely interact with the rest of lemmy, this is my safe haven, I don’t even try to interact with them
I don’t understand how anyone can stand it, it’s like the worst of reddit had a baby with a dollar store version of 4chan
This db0 person is the most exhausting online character I’ve ever encountered. They seem to enjoy having people yell at them. They enjoy it when there are circular arguments about nothing. They have nothing better to do?
They’re by far the most insufferable online nerd I’ve dealt with. And who is doing sectarianism about the USSR now? Why? There are so many bigger fish to fry. There’s an active genocide. There’s a fermenting possible genocide in America with the concentration camps already built.
But this person has the mental bandwidth to worry about what the tankies are up to?
That is the most unproductive bs on the Left imo, I hate that it’s so common here on Lemmy. People, stop constantly arguing with your comrades and do something to dismantle the system you claim to be agaisnt instead. It’ll even be better for your health too :)
This db0 person is the most exhausting online character I’ve ever encountered.
That “masquenox” person is even worse imo, it’s like all the worst comments ever posted on radlib reddit gained sentience lmao
I agree with LemmeAtEm’s take on them, that person seemed like a troll trying to make anarchists look bad. Pretty much everything they said seemed almost deliberately crafted to make their own position as repulsive as possible. People like that quickly get sniffed out on Hexbear, but on an instance like dbzer0, where “hating tankies” is more important than actually engaging with any leftist ideas, people like that can easily ingratiate themselves and push the people there into believing the most stupid (and eventually hateful) things possible.
Yep, they never seemed to engage with any of what FunkyStuff was telling them, just resorting to redditor-tier insults. Deeply unserious.
That thing where they quote an incomplete sentence and argues against a point that no one actually made is fucking infuriating
And they know exactly what they’re doing
Yep, it seems like they don’t respect anyone who disagrees with them, so they think it’s fine to be entirely dishonest.
It’s the same as how so many reactionaries only care about “owning the libs” and don’t actually believe in anything, but it’s “owning the tankies” instead
Toddler behavior
100%.
Yes, genuinely vile. Like distilled meanness. I regret going to read the thread.
I enjoyed arguing with them because it really took very little time for them to take on full peasant brain “I do not care about evidence, this is a vibes only zone”
I genuinely admire your patience
What’s really weird, as has been demonstrated in some screenshots, is how they bait post so fucking much but then seem so upset and play victim when people take the bait. They are like a child who acts out for attention by deliberately trying to rile people and then cries when someone yells at them for it.
Edit: Regarding your question, I think they have a personal beef with local communists. iirc they are Greek and view the local communist party as a counterproductive relic of the past.
They certainly come across as trying to use their anarchism to minoritize themselves by talking about persecution from teh tankies as though they have any connection to the anarchists in the Spanish Civil War or other historical incidents. Why? I can’t really say.
I just realized I’ve been misgendering this person by accident.
Yeah even if they have a beef with the local communists for being ineffective that’s still a far cry from claiming the local communists will put them in a gulag. I don’t believe they really believe that. If they do, that’s unhinged. I mean it is true that most European parties with Communist or Marxist in the name are actually more like tepid social democrats and often have very elderly members with perhaps backwards social views. But that’s not some intractable aspect of Marxist ideology but rather the result of 20th century anti-communism efforts in Europe. Also austerity, the actual CIA, and European reactionaries stoking up anti-immigrant bigotry among the working class. There are specific historical reasons why we’ve gotten to this point.
It’s purely magical thinking to believe there will be a repeat of the conflict between anarchists and Marxists similar to 1920s post-revoultionary Russia due to…some unspecific differences in political rhetoric or what? It makes no sense. The countries I’d say are poised to have conflict of a socialist character don’t have an internal anarchist/Marxist conflict from what I’m aware of. Some examples of places I mean are like: Venezuela, where there are some anarchist communes that collaborate with the broader socialist movement. Burkina Faso, where I’m not aware of any anarchist movement or suppression at all. There’s also Niger, Haiti, and Senegal that have recently had unorganized gang-like violence that I personally think resembles class warfare. Again, no specific anarchist/Marxist conflict from where I’m aware.
for the record it’s not even dealing with communists in their locality that made them opposed to communists, this is all based on principled ideological opposition.
I honestly don’t think they have ever spoken with a communist IRL, and have never engaged with them in good faith, they have only ever heard redditors like “CrunchyItchyAdam88” telling them how evil tankies are and they’ve just internalised that, and lack the self-awareness to realise that if they act as hostile as possible towards a group of people, of course that group is going to be hostile back.
Damn I go touch garden lettuce for a few days and I miss out on another flamewar?
Damn smh some people get to have all the fun
flamewar
You can’t just show your age using a word like that
Watch me
I hate how people are constantly accusing us of brigading because a post hit our /all page. If you don’t want hexbear users in your comment section, then you should defederate. That’s how the fediverse works.
Makes sense though. Just like on reddit when they can’t understand why people from other subs would want to interact with posts
LMAO THERE’S STILL DRAMA FROM THAT THREAD?
and here i thought i was digging it up commenting about how another db0 mod banned me for telling them to shut the fuck up when they left a headline’s scare quotes around “genocide” in when they posted it
Lib sub keeps on libbing
It’s still going lol
I have no idea what any of this is about, as per usual
"The evil fascism tankie are capitalist actually unlike me the anarchist, here is the political ball drawing soyjak, no I won’t be elaborating on that. Attempt to argue? Nope, disengage and move on, I’m right you are wrong. " - the instance owner of Divisions by 0, a self proclaimed anarchist with a copyleft instance with love for AI.
love for AI.
Fucking of course. I really hate them so much.
I’ve also seen that complaining about AI is a bannable offense on multiple db0 comms
Like what are they even doing over there
It’s hilarious to see these “no vegetables, no bedtimes” anarchists who claim that everyone else can’t be trusted with power go full medieval tyrant on their tiny instance and rule with an iron fist while decrying “tankies” for being “authoritarian.”
I have no idea what ur saying big dog, but if you could drop a link to whatever the source of the drama is that’d be sick
Someone already dropped it here, or just look at divb0 post history
I have no idea what any of this is about
otherwise known as not being terminally online
Saaaaaaame. Sounds like I missed some juicy drama.
I think this person seriously believes that “Disengage” is just the magic “I win the argument” button.
Many such cases
opsec is when you don’t announce that you’re dropping spicy bait and are “triggering” the hivemind in the same thread where you later accuse people of ableism and go
Chorus: Disengage (x20)disengage
disavow
This shit is why I don’t join in these “brigades” with other people. Reading those comments was like I just went to reddit. So smug, so ignorant, so proud of their own stupidity and lack of historical understanding, thinking that by plugging their ears and throwing a tantrum they are the “adult in the room.”
I’m so fucking glad I never had a lib-anarchist phase in my journey to being an ML, I’d probably die of cringe at the thought of the dumb shit I would’ve said and believed.
These people are anarchist in vibes alone
I know dozens of real life organized anarchists that are ideologically incoherent because they don’t read and come from weird backgrounds, but they’re still a million times better than any online sectarian anarchist because at least my real life comrades do stuff like work at shelters and hand out food
I had that phase, but thank god I never got the chance to express my political opinions to anyone but my equally stoned and ignorant teenage friends
It is my astute and reasoned opinion that carcosa is right and the other person is acting quite silly
(Can’t even be bothered to read the explanations itt
carcosa is right
were you promised a crown and an empire?
Disengage
how dare you engage on my bait post
Post Sectarian meme.
People disagree with my sectarian meme.
Back in my day, this used to be called flamebait.
I’m old af and I absolutely hid that bait post as soon as I saw it. The person who posted it was absolutely looking for drama.
Edit: I saw the post when it had one comment. I’m sad I didn’t warn hexbears off from the start.
I tried to head it off by shaming OP for being an asshat (I was the first Hexbear to reply), but it didn’t work and I had to dunk on another dipshit lib for a while afterward. Wasn’t too bad though, that lib got owned pretty hard and ran off to .world comms within like 5 hours.
I would not have listened to the warning, but I am willing to admit that that’s a personality flaw.
To be fair, baiting like this is the equivalent of shitting on the floor and then patting yourself on the back when people get disgusted
speaking as someone who can be really melodramatic, the real pro gamer move would be to submit that thread to yptb for judgement
I may have a sadomasochistic streak online. At least I don’t touch Reddit.
It was funny when he saw Diva mentioning she organized as some attack on him while he was arguing how she wasnt a real anarchist for having an ml account
For the record while I may be an influencer
I am not organizing attacks on anyoneAnti-grass-touchers when you mention that you touched grass: “This must be some kind of personal attack against me!”
“It’s ableist to mention touching grass while criticising
.”
No organizing going on. Our “brigading” is a true manifestation of anarchic energy.
I need to point out that EVERY argument I get in when the other party is incredibly wrong, they get really semantic and make false claims about the other side being mean. Literally every time.
I see hexbearians asking for evidence of “ableism”, with no responses.
Just for anyone coming in and needing context, the final exchange is here
Are they saying it’s victim blaming when they said the entire point of their post was to get people to argue?
Or they are upset their own comm isn’t getting moderated by other instances which they also hate because that’s overreacting
They are just having a tantrum and in true Western “leftist” fashion they prefer to claim to be the aggrieved party and using this to lash out.
IRL you’ve gotta get ahead of this kind of thing because it is rampant and toxic and often just a cover for bullying or abusive behavior.
Wild seeing how often mods or admins just put their ass out at the slightest response.
For example on the dbo powertrippingbastards comm worlds Lund is going wild on anyone pointing how how much of a power tripping mod they are
An extreme aversion to introspection or receiving criticism tends to create these scenarios and tends to go hand-in-hand with self-soothing egotistical behaviors. It frequently comes from a place of pain but at some point a person needs to have responsibility for the harms they cause or to be ostracized to prevent further harm.
Holy shit what an ass
bottom of the barrel cynical operator. i get this stuff can be fun for us but i would vote for defedding at this point.
Most dbzero users I’ve seen have been pretty cool actually. It’s only the admin I’ve ever seen people here have problems with.
The owner also has an admin sidekick who was basically their parrot, though idk if that person is still around.
Lmfao
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