(And thus perfectly acceptable to eat for lunch)
Is cake bread though?
Yes, and?
Nordic (or Finnish/Swedish at least) “sandwich cake”.
Discount cube rule.
The authors of salad theory actually discuss their objections to cube rule.
The cuberule theory is amusing, but tragically inconsistent. It also performs poorly against Occam’s razor (it has eight rules for categorizing food into different sections). The choice of a cube as opposed to other geometric shapes appears to be entirely arbitrary. Each category both omits common foods colloquially considered to be members of it, while including many foods that colloquially are not in it.
Cuberule food categories are extremely unstable. While amusing, we find it particularly objectionable that merely slicing or biting into a food changes its nature according to cuberule (a calzone is a calzone, but a calzone with a bite taken out of it is a bread bowl). The same applies to a burrito (calzone when fully folded, bread bowl when bitten into). Notably, a burrito with a significant quantity of carbs mixed in on the interior (e.g. burritos often contain rice) would actually be categorized as toast, which is peculiar.
By category:
- Salad: Correctly includes a fruit salad, but would omit a caesar salad because of the croutons. It also includes things like steak.
- Toast: correctly includes foods that are called toast. It also includes a bunch of things people don’t normally think of as to toast, like pizza and nigiri sushi.
- Sandwich: Correctly includes most sandwiches, but not all. It excludes sub sandwiches where the bread is connected on one side (e.g., like a sandwich you’d pick up from subway). It also would include some peculiar foods, like a single layer of lasagna.
- Taco: This correctly includes tacos, but questionably includes things like slices of pie.
- Sushi: This category includes maki sushi, but excludes nigiri and sashimi. It also includes an unclosed burrito and a taquito.
- Soup/Salad w/ Bread Bowl: This section includes breadbowls unless they have any rice etc in them in which case they’re toast.
- Calzone: This section includes calzones, jelly-filled donuts, and other such baked goods, as long as you don’t cut or bite into them.
- Cake: This section includes foods that have layers of starch, such as a hamburger.
Our position is that unintuitive inclusions are acceptable so long as there are no unintuitive exclusions. But when you have both, it’s solid evidence that your rule is wrong.
Cube rule is a tongue in cheek comedy bit that exaggerates the topic to a hilarious point by focusing in the inconsistency of food names. It quickly descends into madness, and the images helps.
Salad theory tries too hard to take the subject seriously and drags it out for far too long, undermining the potential humor.
Cube rule is Spaceballs. Salad theory is Meet the Spartans.
Cube rule is Spaceballs. Salad theory is Meet the Spartans.
oh god it is
Can’t believe this isn’t already here…
If poptarts are ravioli, but also a sandwich, does that mean that all ravioli are sandwiches from the ingredient/structural rebel perspective?
Makes perfect sense to me, but I’m both a structure and ingredients anarchist.
Cake is a quick bread, which might not count as bread for the purposes of sandwiches.
Further study is required. OP, how was your lunch cake?
Delicious.
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We don’t have this problem in Australia, where a sandwich is narrowly understood as being between two slices of bread cut from a loaf.
If it’s on a bread roll it’s not a sandwich it’s a roll. If it’s on a burger bun it’s not a sandwich it’s a burger. A sub is not a sandwich, it’s a sub. A hot dog cannot be considered a sandwich, nor could a cake or anything else that’s clearly not a sandwich.
Yep, drives me nuts when they call burgers sandwiches. If you gotta classify them together, call them handhelds.
So if you put peanut butter and jelly between hamburger buns, it’s a burger?
No, it’s an abomination. But also yes.
What about a burger on toasted bread slices?
✅ Cream cheese on banana bread
Got it.
Get the fuck out! I am not making you a cottage cheese pastrami sandwich on banana bread! That would severely damage my reputation.
Let me ask you a question: how do you feel about frilly toothpicks?
Pizza is technically an open-faced sandwich, but it’s still pizza.
What about Turkish bread?
If the cake layers don’t get your fingers messy and don’t crumble when you hold it, I’ll allow it. It also has to be small enough to be able to take a bite out of all the layers at once.
Once could, if so inclined, put cake between two slices of bread. It’d be hard to argue that’s not a sandwich.
Cereal is soup
lasagna is a sandwich.
Sandwich cake is already a term that means the same thing as layer cake. The classic combination of two layers of Victoria sponge with strawberry jam and whipped cream in between is called a Victoria Sandwich. Anyone arguing that a layer cake isn’t a sandwich is just illiterate, not a defender of semantic specificity.
I’ve never heard of anyone putting jelly/jam on cake and now I want to try it.
My spouse makes one that way that everyone we know goes wild about. Literally just yellow cake, cooked strawberries, and homemade whipped cream. We’re both baffled by how popular it is, but I guess the Midwest isn’t used to real whipped cream.
I’d say most Americans aren’t used to real whipped cream in general lol. Just the other week, I went to a Harry Potter-themed birthday party for who is essentially my niece and my brother made a British recipe for whipped cream for the butterbeer slushies we made. It was thick as hell and pretty damn good.
Oh that sounds amazing!
The butterbeer was literally cream soda with a small leveled spoonful of butterscotch per can. Then we had a slushie machine then we put it in and it came out perfect.
One of my favorite cakes is a chocolate traditional cake and frosting but the inner layer is raspberry jam. It’s so good.
Congratulations on your sudden literacy (?).
Ice cream sandwiches are just ice cream between 2 dense cake layers. So by this definition, you’d be correct!
Cakes predate the Earl of Sandwich so really a sandwich is a subset of cake
Sandwiches predates him as well.
OBJECTION!
How can a sandwich be a cake if cakes are sweet and sandwiches are salty?
Pb&j?
<starts sweating>
I feel like that’s more a case for converging evolution than relationship. That actually makes this easier to deal with though.
More importantly than having bread on the outside is being handheld.
Yes, you can eat anything with your hands, but cake is typically a fork food.
In my house most baked goods are eaten without a fork, one small sliver/square at a time, while standing at the counter and repeatedly saying, “I’m just going to have one small bite.”
