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“This isn’t going to stop,” Allen told the New York Times. “Art is dead, dude. It’s over. A.I. won. Humans lost.”

“But I still want to get paid for it.”

  • combat_doomerism [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    19 hours ago

    I’m not sure what you mean by “invalidate the existence”, I understand their plight and I’m sorry the tech will end up causing a lot of poor people pain but I think again that any complaints on a communist website that defend IP should be pushed back on. My point is that such arguments are very short sighted, in trying to defend small artists in this way they entrench IP which will be forever more helpful to IP-hoarding corporations

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      19 hours ago

      but I think again that any complaints on a communist website that defend IP should be pushed back on

      Again. It isn’t just about IP. As @Nakoichi@hexbear.net has already pointed out, people’s labor has been stolen and continues to be stolen. If you can’t accept that or acknowledge that, you’re floating on a cloud of liberal privilege and it’s up to you to come down from it.

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              11 hours ago

              You do realize I am a mod of this conm and I have to. You could just stop posting here and then I wouldn’t have to deal with your shit.

              U right though I’m being lazy by not just banning your annoying ass

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                  10 hours ago

                  This seriously the hill you wanna die on? Defending AI art for stealing actual artists work? Is that seriously what you are doing right now?

                  Because frankly at this point I am abusing my power by NOT banning you you dumb motherfucker.

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                    9 hours ago

                    i’ve already said i wanted to leave the argument behind, I’m not even trying to die on any hill anymore I just responded with like a 1/10th of the hostility I’ve been given by you throughout the thread because you threatened to ban me. if that’s a bannable offense so be it

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          18 hours ago

          Again, you’re ignoring the material reality of currently existing (and recently forcibly retired) artists who aren’t “IP” hogs and whose economic precarity has worsened because of treat printers as they are being applied, now, in our current material reality. If you think the only meaningful way to steal art is to physically carry off a painting, I really don’t have anything else to say to you.

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              18 hours ago

              I doubt it’d convince me, if it’s just more of the same. Your ideological fundamentalism dismisses and outright ignores too many working class people and I doubt that a paragraph more of that would help.

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          18 hours ago

          you say in your other comment that people are defending IP hoarding by defending people on the small scale, but right here you do the exact same thing in reverse - using the morality of piracy on the large scale in order to win an argument grounded in the small scale

          people are saying ‘small artists that eke by are getting screwed out of compensation for their labour’ and you’re chiming in with ‘why are you trying to stop me from pirating from Marvel?’

          you’re either purposefully being obtuse about this, or you genuinely are so focused on validating your own piracy that you’re talking right past the conversation entirely