I’m not kidding. This will make Gen-Zers vote for Trump. All he has to say is he’ll reverse the ban. He’s already announced that he opposes this bill and that this only supports Facebook.

Biden and the Democrats are so fucking insane. I do not understand it. They want to lose all support with every fucking base they have.

I’ll never stop being on TikTok.

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    A lot of people think this is a media control thing, but as far as I can tell the US has already forced TikTok to acquiesce to placing US national security apparachiks in positions of power. As a result, I think this motion is simply a favor to Congress’s deep-pocketed patrons in Silicon Valley, using “national security” as a pretext.

    Of course, it will still lead to censorship.

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      Yes most Americans think China controls TikTok when for all intents and and purposes, it’s an American company. China just profits from the shit privacy laws. In addition to the soul crushing content, I imagine the other reason they don’t want the app in China is exactly because of this - it’s a shared intelligence tool between the two countries, and the US has the desire to destroy China completely

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    Are they insane or is the whole two-party thing a big theater play and they’re taking on the “bad cop” role? Or the stick, as in carrot and stick. Or the “heel” and the “face” of kayfabe. I just feel like they have to know what they’re doing. All those teams of people working on campaigns and policies and stuff. Right?

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      The US is just a nation of “good cops” and “bad cops.” The good cops will politely ask you to vote for them, support their policies. When you refuse or ask why or ask if they could do a better job, they’ll just shake their heads and say “I tried to help. But it looks like we’re doing it the hard way” and walk away for the bad cop to come in and beat you half to death.

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    It’s very very telling that the bill doesn’t force tik tok to change any of its supposedly unacceptable data harvesting capabilites, it just forces them to sell it to an American owned company so we can reap the benefits instead of them.

    Unfortunately, as I’ve literally seen stated verbatim multiple times on reddit, people don’t care if governments are controlling social media apps to scrape data for profit and control and moderate content as long as its the US government doing the scraping and controlling.

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        I’m sorry the foreign adversary that controls a popular social media app isn’t white.

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            Eh, that’s one of those things that’s going to happen regardless of which candidate wins. Israel is basically our only consistent ally in the Middle East, so we’re going to play nice with them regardless of who wins.

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              There’s a difference between continuing the status quo, and what Biden is currently doing, even fucking Reagan once told Israel to back down. Pretty ambivalent response about your guy subverting congress to help in an ethnic cleansing.

              Joe Biden is literally to the right of most everyone in the US vis a vis Israel, so there’s a non zero chance he is genuinely worse than Trump.

              The senator – Biden – said he would go even further than Israel, adding that he’d forcefully fend off anyone who sought to invade his country, even if that meant killing women or children.

              Also, he doesn’t HAVE to be doing this. You get that, right? Many voters are telling him to stop, some of the legislators in his own party are telling him to stop. He could end this with a phone call tonight. That he does not, and that his opponent would likely continue this, is not ‘a wash’, it is damning.

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            LOL. “russia was correct in banning facebook and twitter”. Feel better now?

            They could justify that policy the same way - we are a foreign adversary of them and having our companies control their social media could lead to the same sort of problem for them, even if our government doesn’t have it’s fingers dug into our companies in quite the same way as the CCP does with Chinese companies.

            If they’re going to do this TikTok ban bill, they should cast the net a bit wider - it’s be nice if it hits Tencent by accident.

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              you’re consistent, a rare sight.

              And us government absolutely does have its fingers up to facebook and twitter asshole.

              It’s fascinating to see how freedom of commerce (when you can’t compete) goes out of a window and libs all just fall in line. Tiktok USA already was populated by usa natsec and it people, so it’s just forcing to sell profitable business cause you need them monies and future control

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              even if our government doesn’t have it’s fingers dug into our companies

              Do you work for the NSA or something? The US government doesn’t even hide the fact that that’s the case.

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                Read the rest of that sentence. The difference between how the US and CCP have their hands in private companies is like the difference between fingering and fisting.

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          There is quite literally nothing China could do, even in your wildest fantasies about how nefarious they are, to affect your life in any way using TikTok algorithm data

          You’re simply just engaging in McCarthyist paranoia