This is no honeymoon, the American “left” will never recover from the Harris/Walz combo; every major base of support (demographic/economic) is covered; Black woman with a jovial heartlandish white man standing behind her is the universal password for the legendary “competent American fascism” software update leftists have been prophesying.
They got this shit locked for at least eight years, Walz is suburbanite catnip and Harris has the identity libs eating out her hands, along with big tech, wallstreet, and the zionist lobby who are now methodically eliminating the last holdouts of the post-2016 nascent left movement
There is no credible avenue of leverage here, the libs can effectively respond to any leftist utterance with accusations of racism, misogyny, and purity testing and it will stick. Already we have most liberals being one rhetorical step away from defending Walz unleashing the National Guard on BLM protesters
There is no point in engaging with domestic national politics at this current time, the ball is firmly overseas
The only series of events that can undermine this new DNC paradigm is Israel blowing up the world and the US mobilizing to save it. Not even the collapse of Ukraine can dent it now, since that was “Biden’s project”
Hate to say it, but the DNC won a firm generational victory
The memory of Trump is too fresh, the threat of him winning next election enough to keep the Libs in a state of frightened simping. If Trump actually gets owned and fades away, we may end up back in the Obama years. I remember a lot of young Libs getting pushed leftward a bit by what a let down Obama was.
As I was saying elsewhere in the thread, the Obama years weren’t all that different than now. Obama got away with a lot because he came on the tail end of the Bush years. Occupy was crushed, the Flint water crisis, the ACA, libs were defending his ass all the way. Honestly, it’s really been a rerun, especially when people here started simping over that joke of a Student Loan means testing bullshit that they happily threw everyone else under the bus for… all for it to fizzle out. Small miracle people here haven’t picked up a torch for the latest plan.
Yeah but it felt like people were actually willing to do stuff under Obama cuz there wasn’t this fear that if you raise too much of a stink under him you’ll just help Bush get back into office. Occupy did happen. BLM protests did happen.
The threat of Trumps return has a strong pacifying effect. The Palestinian encampment feel like the only major protest that happened under Biden, there were several police violence incidents under him but almost not BLM activity.
I think that’s less to do with Trump and more to do with BLM being largely consumed by the Dems. We’re still seeing Cop City protests and whatnot, but people are also getting killed over it while Libs look the other way and Dems pour more money into policing. Maybe protests are becoming less palatable as people realize its direct action that gets things done, but i dunno, could just as easily be people are giving up.
Part of the reason that Dem capture worked though is how many “progressives” and “succs” softened their view on the DNC once Trump was in power. I saw it unfold in every moderate left space I saw, things went from “the Dems suck but we have to vote for them strategically” to “we can push them left once Trump is out” to “OMG BIDEN IS MORE PROGRESSIVE THAN OBAMA!”
And once Biden was in office that shit faded a bit a year or so into his presidency, but then reared it’s head again once we started getting closer to the next election.
It probably isn’t going to matter any way, the western left will most likely continue to be an absolute joke, but if I had to place a bet I would say the western left would actually have very slightly better odds under the DNC.