• greenskye@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      Honestly all this tells me is that peaceful movements and protests are seemingly far less effective than violence. So if the LGBT crowd wants to see change, then their going to have to get violent too.

      I don’t morally agree with it, but it feels hard to deny the realities about it.

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        Oh most definitely! Freedom is bought with blood.

        Source: The whole of human history.

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        You may not morally agree but I morally encourage it, make those sonsovbitches bleed. Especially if theyre Seventh Day Adventist affiliates or outright part of.

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        In general, peaceful protests have been historically way more effective. But if you let the violent bigots get too far, especially into governments, you will have no other choice than to remove them with violence. I don’t think the world is there yet, but if they are enabled further it “soon” will be.

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        Put your loved ones in danger supporting a topic they care little about. Your mentality is the same used to support wars.

        “My morality dictates this is worth putting other people in the line of fire for my ideals!”

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          By allowing the terrorism to succeed they’re encouraging further harassment against a vulnerable minority.

          Many of my loved ones were already in danger from those hateful bigots, who are now emboldened and looking for new targets thanks to spineless corporate appeasement.

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              No, my solution is to protect the workers and continue to stand for queer acceptance. When people shoplift these corporations have no qualms with spending millions on security, but when it comes to standing up for the LGBTQ+ community they won’t put their money where their mouth is, they would rather shift the conflict onto people who don’t have ample resources to defend themselves.

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                  I’ve worked retail for stores like that. It doesn’t need to be the way you’re describing it. If they put a fraction of the effort they put towards loss prevention into protecting their workers everyone could be safe.

                  Costco required masks for years during the pandemic, some people hated it and blamed the workers, but instead of giving up and backing down Costco invested in keeping their staff safe and de-escalating conflicts.

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        i do not care to have any more of a conversation, i just want you to know that you’re a baby bitch.

        That’s the most baby bitch thing I’ve ever heard, LOL.

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        The ironic thing here is that you’re getting just as worked up as the other side is. Maybe if both extreme fringes calm down, the rest of us in the middle can just have a beer while wearing a North Face jacket.

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          Whether or not gay people should be allowed to exist at all is not an issue upon which it is possible to compromise!

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          Yup. Nothing is worth deciding someone else should get bullied for your decisions. People don’t work retail because they want to deal with culture war problems.

          This isnt life or death. It’s selling rainbow themed products.