• beardown@lemm.ee
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      Enjoy president Trump

      So you admit that it is an election issue?

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        No, they’re replying to the claim that it is. If you attempt to protest the genocide at the polls, you’ll just end up with more genocide.

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          Right, so Bidens continued support of genocide makes it more likely that Trump will win

          Therefore it is an election issue. Therefore, Biden needs to immediately change policy

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              Bidens actions have a direct effect on if he wins

              If he wants to win then he needs to change his Israeli policy

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                We’re going in circles. Anyone who abstains from voting in protest of Israel support will be allowing someone to win that supports Israel more. It’s that simple.

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                  If Biden’s support of genocide makes him unacceptable, then people will not vote for him. They will not vote for trump either. Which means they will either vote 3rd party, vote uncommitted, or not vote at all.

                  All of which certainly increases the likelihood that Trump wins. Which is Netanyahu’s goal.

                  Biden should change US policy on Israel to mitigate these losses. Otherwise he will lose Michigan, and likely the election.

                  The point is that, for many people, Never Again actually meant Never Again. Funding a genocide is a nonstarter for many who were taught that the Holocaust must never again occur

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              No, it’s because of the truth that continued support of genocide will cause Biden to lose Michigan and other states as well. Which means Trump wins.

              To prevent that, Biden needs to change policy immediately

              If people are mad at a government then they will not vote to re-elect that government. Which is how democracy is supposed to work. Not that it matters, because our democracy is not long for this world anyway

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                To prevent that, Biden needs to change policy immediately

                You’re arguing with someone who doesn’t want Biden to change.

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        “bad faith argument” the new buzz phrase to beat over the head of everyone who disagrees with you in 2024

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          No it really is a bad faith argument to try and defend Biden by mentioning Trump. It’s literally a whataboutism.

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            “bad faith” “whataboutism”

            You’re just steeped in buzzwords aren’t you. No wonder wrong think is unacceptable among young liberals, you all operate on the same bullshit, and call anyone who disagrees even a little bit a right winger, even if they’re so far left of you that they left you in the dust

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              Did I say you were a right winger? I said you were trying to deflect from defending Biden because you don’t have anything to defend him with. That rather presumes you’re a Democrat at least.