• dead [he/him]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
      23·
      4 months ago

      I think the Araghchi tweet is in reference to Trump’s speech last night which claimed that China changed the outcome of the 2020 election so that Biden would win, a conspiracy theory that makes no sense.

      Araghchi is saying that Israel has more interference in US elections through lobbying and Christian Zionist politicians, than China has over any US politics.

        • dead [he/him]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
          19·
          4 months ago

          Biden also told the media that Xi Jinping is a dictator only minutes after speaking face-to-face with Xi in California. It is Trump making the absurd claim. The way that you quoted my sentence makes it seem like I said that.

          • LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name, any]@hexbear.netBanneddeleted by creatorEnglish
            121·
            4 months ago

            ??? I wasn’t trying to say you said anything, just quoted the bit that supposedly makes biden and china friendly (if true) with a fact that indicates it’s not

            I guess you’d have preferred i quoted the “a conspiracy theory which makes no sense” but i mean I was offering a fact to back that up

            Edit: this sounds more hostile than i feel fyi i ain’t mad

    • daniyeg [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      9·
      4 months ago

      it’s an english tweet and it’s targeted at americans. phrases like war of choice are only used in english media. sadly the only framing that works on the average american is being betrayed by foreigners.

    • diamath [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
      5·
      4 months ago

      I think he means that Netanyahu lied to Trump about Iran having plans to assassinate him which is why they were so keen on killing khomeini and trump tweeting after “I got him before he got me”

  • unmagical@lemmy.mlBanned from communityEnglish
    15·
    4 months ago

    Gotta love “Friends for Peace” cold texting me to tell me that Israel has a right to defend itself. I’m most definitely on a list somewhere already so I shot the bull shit with their LLM, but yeah. Wouldn’t recommend responding in an anti Israel way to their messages lest you be aggregated onto an enemies list.

  • LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name, any]@hexbear.netBanneddeleted by creatorEnglish
    112·
    4 months ago

    Woah look out FM of Iran you’re about to have a LOT of angry hexbears mad that you’re intimating ZOG conspiracy theories by implying israel, a country, has any influence over the United states. Doesn’t he know they’re really just one government led by zionists (but not in a ZOG way)

    Disclaimer: if you take this as an opportunity to morshupls at me over the Real True U.S.- Israel relations I will simply be even more obnoxious the next time something like this happens

    • DornerStan@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
      16·
      4 months ago

      Jesus you are super bitter about being mildly corrected for bad analysis lmao

      every single thread about Israel having its own interests (literally every Marxist knows this, it’s basic shit) you’re angrily vagueposting.

      Is this how you act in your irl orgs?

      • LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name, any]@hexbear.netBanneddeleted by creatorEnglish
        32·
        4 months ago

        Im just going to keep blocking every nerd like you who thinks “aipac and mossad exist for a reason and are used for purpose” is some fucked to death antisemitic shit because israel positing itself as the avatar of judaism purposefully to conflate criticism of it with antisemitism has fucking worked on you

        literally every Marxist knows this, it’s basic shit

        Oh really tell me more how basic that is because it seems like a heavily contested point given it’s why you’re fucking arguing with me. Oh wait, blocked

        People literally acting like it’s a game of eu4 and there’s a spirit of america that wants to do zionism telling me i have bad analysis lol

      • LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name, any]@hexbear.netBanneddeleted by creatorEnglish
        31·
        4 months ago

        I did a thing for a long time where israel would do something like have nationals in the u.s. get caught running illegal biolabs only to be sent home without charge, or netanyahu giving trump a golden pager right after the terrorist attack on Lebanon with pagers, etc etc., with “just normal vassal behavior” (because i don’t think it’s normal vassal behavior) and in the course of it had numerous nerds mad at me for asserting that israel has any influence whatsoever over the United states. The very concept of israel being anything other than a puppet that exists at the pleasure of the U.S. was derided and I was at numerous points implied to be acting anti semitically for the mere suggestion that israel influences the u.s. in any way at all

        That dorner dipshit i just blocked is basically continuing that insisting i have bad analysis. These nerds also can’t ever seem to read what I am saying for what it is and wish to read into it nonsense like israel having influence makes the u.s. not guilty for its crimes, or like the u.s. can’t have overlapping interests that would lead it to support israel on its own (which it obviously fucking does)

        So yeah when the FM of Iran points out a very obvious way israel heavily influences the u.s. i’m gonna be obnoxious about it, and also keep blocking nerds who think im wrong

          • LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name, any]@hexbear.netBanneddeleted by creatorEnglish
            41·
            4 months ago

            I honestly don’t know what conversation you’re referring to, but I get the impression you’re straw-manning whatever it was and just trying to have the same argument again

            No im just being a shithead over the FM of Iran saying things I was attacked for because i’m obnoxious and enjoy pointing out hypocrisy when it concerns peoples attitudes towards me

            I appreciate the good faith write up but the tl;(did read) for me there is that i’m right but you’re kinda implying I’m wrong hinging on zionism being home brewed american ideology and not “a foreign influence” like im particularly concerned by the foreignness of it. I mention israel being its own country because that’s what separates criticism of israel from conspiracies of Jewish control, it’s not just an ethnic group, it’s a literal nation state with its own intelligence apparatus and military, its motivations and influence should be analyzed and criticized.

            I actually expressly do not wish to continue arguing about this because i’m about to grill some tofu. Thank you for your genuine attempt to educate me though, I am at present not mad