Israeli and Zionist influence in the USA is a purposeful choice of the American government. It allows the American government to circumvent many domestic and international laws by allowing Israeli firms to do the spying and dirty work for them. Israel is essentially a rogue state that is entirely controlled by the American intelligence apparatus (and therefore, American capital). This has created a feedback loop of constantly reinforcing settler colonialism and American economic extraction of the Middle East. If America withdrew support to Israel, this feedback loop would cease and Israel would be greatly diminished or completely collapse.
Saying Israel controls America is simply wrong, stop saying this. I will remove your post. ✌️
edit: altered title for clarification and to avoid nonsensical semantic arguments
That post is absolutely not peddling in zog conspiracies. AIPAC is the most powerful foreign lobby in the US. The mods are getting baited into being hasbara reactionaries again. Just like the whole
fiasco.
There was a thread on lemmygrad too (removed for the same reason) and in it (if I recall correctly) it was very clear that OP was not talking about “ZOG” (OP posted further screenshots from the same conversation). Big L for the mods on this one, I think.
Edit: https://hexbear.net/comment/6619276
AIPAC being the most powerful foreign lobby does not translate to “AIPAC controls all but three people in Congress”. Israel openly controls some US politicians and more quietly controls many others, but it’s indefensible to characterize it as just having the government in its hand.
That’s a fair assessment (which I agree with), but it’s insufficient to accuse the OP of being a neo nazi imo. It’s sloppy wording. OP posted further screenshots in another thread that IMO indicate this had nothing to do with “ZOG” conspiracies.
https://hexbear.net/comment/6619276
I didn’t call anyone a neo-nazi, but if someone believes that the actual global hegemon is a puppet of Israel, they are doing ZOG stuff whether they use the word or not.
Not you, the mod log. Agreed, I just don’t think that’s what the OP was actually claiming, based on the later comment I linked. I might be wrong, though. I don’t think the removal of the post is that bad (your interpretation is fair and a good reason to remove), it’s this meta post in response to it that’s a bigger problem.
Sorry for being obtuse. Looking at the screenshots in the comment you link, I’m struggling to get a coherent argument out of it because the “American settlers” comment just sort of confuses the point about who is doing what and why, even if it’s of course true that lots of AIPAC people are American-Israeli settlers.
It seems to just be that the “Israeli” lobby exerts a lot of influence in American politics in ways that other foreign lobbies are not allowed to, and my interpretation of the “American settlers” comment was that it was highlighting a special aspect of the relationship there - those other countries are not colonized by American settlers. Like I said before, I might be reading it wrong.