• einkorn@feddit.org
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    66% of us are twats.

    I really would like to know how many of those wanting to send Ukrainian men back home have preemptively refused military service. And further how many know that there is effectively no such thing in Ukraine.

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          That can’t be true. People were drafted all the time without a war. The new law is also about drafting people if there are not enough volunteers.

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            Art. 12a makes a distincten between mandatory military (or civil) service and an actual draft during wartime (Paragraph 3).

            We might be arguing semantics here but to me military service has always been the temporary training and draft the “we give you a rifle and send you to fight” thing.

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              I don’t see that in paragraph 3. It says men to whom military or civil service can’t be applied can still be forced to do civil work. That should apply to all remaining unfit men who were excluded from service.

              So there doesn’t seem to be a distinction between draft and mandantory service.

              What’s interesting is that the new volunteers become time limited soldiers and not just men doing military service. The limits to defence don’t apply to them.