…again. If it sounds familiar it’s not just you. But they’ve been back on “undecided” shortly after. Let’s hope this is the actual final decision.
The proponents of Chat Control will use every trick in the book and will not give up easily. We will keep fighting until this proposal is defeated once and for all, and the privacy of our digital lives is secure for everyone.”
How does this “once and for all” part work? Is there a clear, legal path towards preventing a similar proposal from being brought up again and again?
I guess ideally, we should put the right to encrypted communication into law or even into national constitutions. Unlikely to happen though.
Finland already has it in constitution, though it’s not about encryption but just right to privacy on private messaging. It was originally created to protect snail mail communication
Rare German W.
You see the German government would really prefer to stay in limbo in a lot of matters. Never decide anything. Never get anything done. Just wait as years pass by. That‘s how we lost world leading solar and robotic technologies to China and that‘s how conservatives run the country. You can expect a lot more back and forth in the coming years. On this matter and many others.
I wish. The last government did some good directional policy. For electric cars the German government doing nothing would be rather good. Same story for boilers.
I like saying the last government was partially dysfunctional and still achieved more progress in 3 years than Merkel did in 16. christian democrats weren‘t part of it so that‘s probably why.
That‘s how we lost world leading solar
“to altmeier sth.: to gleefully smash the thriving beginnings of a key industry of the future in your country at the behest of your wealthy donors and lobbyists, condemning your countrymen to watch from the sidelines while others take the cake for themselves.”
Electric cars
We have to protest this shit every fucking year and those asshole politicians just keep trying.
Classical Athens punished the people who proposed evil laws with fines or way worse. But our enlightened ”democracies” just let this happen without repercussions.
It’s like Wheel of Time. The Dragon gets reborn again and again fighting “the last battle” forever.
We have to fight to get it denied every single time. They have to push it through only once. That’s why they keep trying.
…and we keep fighting.
The Czechs got upset at EU-level efforts on gun control — Czechia has permissive firearm law — and passed an amendment to Czechia’s constitution in 2021 guaranteeing certain firearm rights in Czechia. If the EU passed a directive that conflicted with it after that point without getting Czechs to approve an amendment to their constitution, Czechia would immediately begin violating the directive, which raises the stakes for people who wanted additional restrictions EU-wide.
One imagines that the same tactic could be used in other areas; if one or more EU members prohibited restrictions on end-to-end encryption or the like, it’d create a legal bar that would first need to be undone to create a restriction EU-wide.
That being said, if this sort of hardball tactic gets done too frequently, it’d make it really difficult to legislate at the EU level, because you’d have one state or another creating legal landmines all over.
And any other individual member could still impose their own state-level restrictions on end-to-end encryption in such a scenario — it’d only create an impediment to EU-wide restrictions.
AFAIK there are some EU countries with privacy laws that won’t allow chat control
I believe that the point of the Czechia situation was that it was a modification to the constitution; this will have a higher bar to change than would be the case for simply enacting an ordinary law. The idea was to entrench the status quo behind the bar for constitutional modification.
kagis
Looks like it’s a 60% supermajority in each legislative house:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_Czech_Republic#Amending_the_Constitution
With reference to the provision of the article 39, paragraph 4 of the Constitution, which states that “for the enactment of a constitutional act, 3/5 of all deputies must agree, and 3/5 of senators present”, changing the constitution is a more difficult procedure than changing an ordinary statute, making it an entrenched constitution in the typology of constitutions. Despite the tradition of entrenched constitutions throughout Czech history, some voiced the opinion, during the preparation of the Constitution of the Czech Republic, that this one should be flexible.
So to produce such an effect, if there are laws that would prohibit bans on end-to-end encryption, say, those laws would need to be constitutional law or similar in an EU member state where such a law has a higher-than-ordinary bar to change.
The EU is an economic-political union, not a socio-political union. Attempts to impose any sort of social law across all member nations feels like abuse of purpose, and also beside the point of having distinct member states in the first place.
As the IRA said to Thatcher, you have to get lucky every time, we only have to get lucky once
For this kind of treasonous shit we really should have lifelong imprisonment back.
Nah, a ban from holding public office would do the trick easily enough.
Facing a wave of calls and emails from the public…
We did it, Lemmy?
We were the tiniest part in it.
Italy went to undecided? when? my spam worked?
https://fightchatcontrol.eu/#contact-tool
let’s send some more spam
Who should I harass? Not sure who the best person for italy is
i just use the contact tool and spam ~100 emails to half the government
As a Swede, I’m truly ashamed that we shared Ylva Johansson (driving politician for this shit) with the rest of you.
As a Finn, could you also reign in the Swedish Party here? Or, maybe just take them back.
I hope that this time it’s final and that they won’t just change their minds later.
The fascist oligarchs of surveillance capitalism will keep trying until it passes, or until it becomes political/literal suicide to support it.
thank fucking jesus for the krauts
Green being against+nwgative and red in favor+negative makes my brain ich in a way I can’t scratch
Green: good, red: bad.
But that’s very subjective, maybe I am a state agent and would love to read your chats?
Then you are bad and that is not subjective
