One time we were on this job during a plant shutdown. everyone on our crew attached a lock to the LOTO slot. One guy took off without undoing his lock. Everyone had to wait for this guy to answer his phone, turn around, drive back, get his PPE back on, walk back to the lock box and cut his own lock.
There was nobody inside the facility, every machine was shut down for the day. Still, not a single one of these incredibly impatient and pissed off tradesmen even JOKED about cutting buddy’s lock. You just don’t do it
This is usually an instant termination not because of safety but because doing this shit is a fantastic way to lose your insurance. Also a serious OSHA violation and against labor laws in almost every state. Exposing the company to massive liability is reason enough to fire someone for this.
When did this turn into r/electricians?
They say in the Twitter thread that they think the person isn’t getting punished because they’re so understaffed. That they’d rather just be careless with the lives of the workers, instead of dare hire and train more people. Which sounds very plausible unfortunately.
Sounds about right for the US. It’d cost a company millions to hire more people, it’ll cost them maybe 0.00001% of their profits for a wrongful death.
Commits seriously reckless safety violation that puts workers’ lives in danger without telling anyone
Management: Just don’t do it again. See you tomorrow at 9.
I know of one guy who cut a lock-out lock at an old job. It was done after hours when nobody else was around and he had “confirmed” that nobody was near the device in question. He was immediately fired because you DO NOT FUCKING CUT A LOCK OUT LOCK.
Yea if someone fucks with my lock out and managment/the company doesn’t take it seriously I’m walking out while I still can
Where I live there’s an explicit “right to refuse unsafe work without fear of reprisal” baked into the law. I would invoke this immediately
The person that did this will get someone killed eventually.
imo that should be treated as attempted murder with all related criminal consequences
So this is like ripping a red tag-out note off on a piece of machinery and operating it anyway? I only have a naval frame of reference.
lol 7 upbears but nobody answered my sincere question ;-;
LOTO is lock out tag out, so it’s the same thing lol.
The LO part is because you’re supposed to literally lock the machine with a padlock that only you have the key to so no one start it while you’re in the danger zone.
Someone cut this guy’s $90 American lock off with an angle grinder to run it anyways…
You can also see that there’s multiple holes for locks so multiple people can have the machine/area locked out at the same time and you can’t start anything until all of them unlock it. So someone was in a hurry and didn’t wait for the last guy.
In he navy we just had the red and yellow tags, no padlock, and I have never heard of a safety incident involving tagged out equipment. Amazing that the private sector manages to be even more sociopathic than the us navy.
Whoever cut that needs to be beat with a bike chain. That shit is insane
if you ever wonder for an example between social murder vs. murder look little further than this
Those things exist for one goddamned reason.
Fuck with my LOTO and I’m gonna try to get you booted from my jobsite. That’s a pissing contest worth pursuing.
Seriously I would be giving an ultimatum, either that guy gets fired or I’m not coming back. Imagine your coworker whips out a gun and shoots at you while at work, that’s basically what this guy did.
I’d turn into Red Forman and stick my boot right up their ass
The stories my dad used to tell me about factory machinery used to keep me up at night
Horrifying stuff
And most of those stories started with people not using/fucking with the lock-out shit
There’s a particularly horrifying story from a local dairy farm where a worker
spoiler
climbed into some kind of mixer to unclog it, didn’t lock it out, and for some reason it was controllable via WiFi and the boss decided the mixer should be running.
Guy was like 30 with a small kids and his own farm, but had to work at this shitty dairy to supplement his income. Big farm in the area bought out his whole place within a few months of him passing.
WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO WIRELESSLY CONTROL HEAVY MACHINERY WHAT THE FUCK
Wild, that kinda thing is honestly grounds for firing
Out of a cannon
HOLY FUCKING SHIT! WHOEVER CUT IT DOESN’T DESERVE TEETH!
