Most cowardly old man award, god, it’s hard to believe how much I advocated for his presidential candidacy with how much of a disappointment he’s become, it’s to the point I kinda wish covid or the heart attack gun got him, christ

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    Do you remember when he kept saying “We don’t want a ceasefire. Hamas has to be dealt with. We need a humanitarian pause”?

    What a fucking blowbag

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        y’all should’ve known he was a loyal servant to US Empire (which includes full support to Israel), during his first run, his suggestion for the Middle East was having the Saudis play a major role. When asked about his views on Hugo Chavez, he said he was just another dead Communist Dictator. Don’t compare this spineless careerist to Corbyn, who has always supported Palestinian liberation and supported the Pink Tide, even at the cost of his political career.

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        That’s how Maoist Standard English works too.

        How it starts: "Lol, spelling/pronouncing it ‘AmeriKKKa’ is funny hyperbole.

        How it ends up: “No that’s just an accurate description of the USA”

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      yeah and it’s really insidious because I think the natural response to a liberal hearing about it when capitalism is in crisis is like “aight, bet” so they end up halfheartedly supporting bandaid measures and never thinking to address how capitalism itself is an inherently exploitative machine that grinds people’s lives for its fuel because they think if they just defeat the conservatives and get their bandaids it’ll all get better

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      my wish casting is that time he got all bruised up they really scared the shit out of him and that turned him into a spineless worm but I know that that’s probably less likely than he’s just actually sympathetic to israel and a spineless worm

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        Something definitely happened to him between 2016 and 2021 or so. He became much more subservient to the Democrats and began echoing their narratives about “Russian Disinfo” that were once used to attack him, instead of talking about Healthcare/The 1%/Big Banks/Big Pharma/etc. He switched to a much more pro-Dem and pro-War footing, and sold out what was left of his principles. He basically got turned into a radlib instead of a socialist. Radlibs are dangerous for this reason, I think everyone knows what I’m talking about. The people who want to nuke Putler because he made America racist.

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      DSA losers came up to me wearing bernie shirts the other day, asked them what they were doing for Palestine and you just head mumbles of “we’re doing a lot of stuff!!” Fuck off.

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        Yeah it’s a huge indictment (and if he wasn’t already a gazillion years old) it alone disqualifies him from being seen as a torchbearer of the movement by ourselves or others.

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      I was a huge Bernie bro but the dude has had like 50 years in politics to investigate this issue, it’s not a blind spot it’s just what he thinks.

      It is ok to support Bernie for being a leftward pressure on the ultra-right regime while criticizing him for being a rightward pressure on the Left.

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      Someone I knew told me they lived on a commune. They said it to commiserate on left principals and challenges of living with other people.

      It was a settler kibbutz.

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      Do you have the same hatred for a rabid animal and a friend who stabbed you in the back?

      Nobody ever expected anything from the right except hatred and evil shit. It’s who they are and always have been. They have to be defeated, there’s no merit to their positions, there’s no point in debating them.

      Whereas the Social Democrats are our “friends” who actively poison us from the inside.

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      Why would anyone have the same energy for an enemy as one has for someone who claims to be an ally? MTG gets plenty of shit for Jewish space lasers, meanwhile people will still try and argue that Bernie is working tirelessly for a ceasefire. So one is obviously more insidious than the other

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      Yeah he is a neo nazi (zionist) chud performing genocide denial for his country. You’re just soft on him because he runs on the promise that he will make american lives better, fuck everyone else internationally (whose lives don’t matter as you have clearly demonstrated). No more copes. A million people have been murdered in a cold blooded genocide by the american empire to steal land for their cancer military base in the Levant, with the world watching, and he is part of the fucking problem.

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          I will shut up when you people stop being shitheads who are soft on neonazi trash just because they promise you a better life (false promises too). Bernie is a chud. End of.

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            Remember seeing someone dogpiled here for mocking Mark Hammill for supporting Neo-Nazis and everyone was saying “look, most normies see Ukraine as the good guys. You can’t be too hard on them” while he’s doing fund-raising video calls with neo-nazi flags up in the background.

            Most normie Germans thought they were the good guys too. Americans really have yet to internalize that they are nazis.

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              you the cracker

              The amerishart thinks I’m white and american somehow speed-dont-laugh

              are fine watching them throw me and everyone like me in the gas chambers

              wojak-nooo “IF YOU CRITICIZE 99% HITLER IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM THIS MEANS YOU AKSHUALLY SUPPORT 100% HITLER, VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO OR ELSE YOURE THE NAZI!!!”

              This is the same type of logic that the zionists who say “IF YOU DONT SUPPORT PISSRAEL AND GENOCIDE YOU WANT ALL JEWS TO DIE IN A HOLOCAUST” use. What the fuck is wrong with you?

              No I’m not fine watching chuds throw people they deem racially inferior into gas chambers, and that’s why I hate sanders.

              Also what the fuck makes you think that someone who is basically ok with his country committing a genocide that has slaughtered and starved 1 million innocent people so far would care about your life when they decide it’s economically reasonable to throw you in the chambers? Fucking nonsense and cope.

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            Running defense for zionism lmao

            Definitely not a fan of Bernie and his Israel apologia but you seem awfully defensive about tucker carlson and the like, let’s talk about that

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              Do you think anyone other than you looks defensive of anyone other than Sanders here? Hey, people didn’t make sure to bring up Hitler, Mussolini and Franco when they were talking about how bad Bernie is - clearly they’re defensive about those fascists!

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              If your response to people rightfully criticizing sanders for being a zionist and denying an ongoing genocide committed in large part by his settler colonial “country” is unironic whataboutism that implies he’s somehow less bad than other neonazi amerishart chuds, you are defending zionism by minimising how awful it is. It’s just that simple.

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              You’re trying to turn criticism of Sanders’ support of a genocidal settler state into going easy on chuds. Rather than emphasize how bas chuds are you are implying that Sanders deserves less criticism and that people here are being unreasonable to hold the minimum of a principled stance on settler colonialism and genocide.

              You’re implying that not only do you not hold to that minimum anti-Zionist stance, you actually go after people who do, and with this comment, show no interest in reflecting on that.